Pedantry: WHY is it a turn-off to women?

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20 Jun 2009, 6:17 pm

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Travell wrote:
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f**k this girl. she didn't wanna talk to you in the first place. anyways like I've been saying, there is a world of women out there that likes aspie guys and other types of guys, the problem is it that they are unattractive.

Aspie guys problem is that we have trouble getting attractive girls. We only want attractive girls. i mean come on, anyone can get a gf, its just that not everyone can get the one they want.So do we act different? hell naw, f**k those girls, they aint sh**.
Also the girl is obviously insecure. But aspie guys like any guy would date an insecure girl if she looks good. all men care about are looks and its true.
all i care about is looks and an accepting personality. all the rest of that garbage i dont care. i dont care if shes insecure, self conscious or whatever. she's a human being and people have problems. men dont reject women because of natural problems such as insecurity and so forth, because it doesnt matter, we are all people, and we are all self conscious


you shouldn't be surprised that you have trouble getting girls, you're a dickhead.


And you're a something that I can't and won't say online :). Oh thanx for the compliment, I keep it real.



a pussyhead?


She's a realist ;) . i know I'm a dickhead.


Then you should draw such a tattoo on your forehead

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:? :o :lol: :lmao: ..... :shameonyou:


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20 Jun 2009, 7:31 pm

If you keep putting quotes inside quotes inside quotes inside quotes, you'll end up with an inner column only one character wide!

PS: I like the story you made with the smileys. You should start a thread in which people are only allowed to communicate using smileys and punctuation.

(Some therapist will then probably spot it and go patent the technique as a way for Aspies to learn facial expressions and body language, and after that you will have a lot of oddball autistics roaming the planet with yellow face-paint and behaving like bouncing balls.)


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20 Jun 2009, 7:42 pm

Zornslemma wrote:
Here is an excerpt from a IM conversation I had(Schwartzmacht is MY handle BTW):


Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:44:40 AM): tell me, are you not an ombrophile?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:45:13 AM): a what?
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:45:22 AM): ombros==rain
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:45:32 AM): ;)
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:45:49 AM): ombros does not equal rain
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:01 AM): ombro does
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:30 AM): ombro is a prefix derived from the greek noun ombros
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:45 AM): Is this how you are on dates?
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:49 AM): no
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:47:01 AM): because its really a turn off and quite annoying
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:47:23 AM): are you saying that Im being too pedantic?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:47:53 AM): I am saying you are really weird and not my type
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:48:02 AM): hrm
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:48:18 AM): don't Hrm at me
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:48:45 AM): WTF did I say that got you offended?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:48:56 AM): I am gonna go


Good Grief! I dont understand why women get like this when you get picky about words :x . I did NOT mean to be condescending or to correct her but it seems women actively HATE men who are pedantic. Why is this so? Any thoughts??


I'm going to take a guess.

I'm guessing that the timing is wrong here in a social context. I don't know what people talk about on dates, but I suspect that talking about the etymology of 'ombros' isn't considered very romantic. The one I've heard is that the best thing to talk about on a date is your date.

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You guys are really rude and puerile now.


Oh! I almost ruined the rhythm of the thread!

Ass guava. Elephant dick. You're all stupid p*****s.

Hope that keeps the rhythm.


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20 Jun 2009, 8:13 pm

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Or you can go quasi brain-ninja on them


:lol: Quasi brain-ninja. I love it.



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20 Jun 2009, 8:20 pm

Zornslemma wrote:
Here is an excerpt from a IM conversation I had(Schwartzmacht is MY handle BTW):


Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:44:40 AM): tell me, are you not an ombrophile?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:45:13 AM): a what?
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:45:22 AM): ombros==rain
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:45:32 AM): ;)
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:45:49 AM): ombros does not equal rain
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:01 AM): ombro does
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:30 AM): ombro is a prefix derived from the greek noun ombros
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:45 AM): Is this how you are on dates?
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:49 AM): no
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:47:01 AM): because its really a turn off and quite annoying
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:47:23 AM): are you saying that Im being too pedantic?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:47:53 AM): I am saying you are really weird and not my type
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:48:02 AM): hrm
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:48:18 AM): don't Hrm at me
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:48:45 AM): WTF did I say that got you offended?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:48:56 AM): I am gonna go


Good Grief! I dont understand why women get like this when you get picky about words :x . I did NOT mean to be condescending or to correct her but it seems women actively HATE men who are pedantic. Why is this so? Any thoughts??


It seems to me that she was the one who started with the pedantry, but then realised, when you corrected her, that she was wrong! :wink:

I laughed out loud when she said "don't Hrm at me", although being a bit of a pedant myself, a female one, I noticed that the OP said "hrm", not "Hrm". :roll:

Pendantry can be a turn-off to both men and women, it seems. :( I speak from experience. Many people don't like being corrected, and they simply don't care about the finer details which the pedant finds so fascinating. I've only ever met two other people who are bothered about split infinitives, for example. The rest don't know what I'm on about. :roll:



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20 Jun 2009, 8:29 pm

Some people like smart people. Some people like stupid people. Some people like people in between.

Thing is, most don't like others to showcase how smart they are. They want people who will make them feel good about themselves, as if they're dating "below their integer."

And one thing many people hate, no matter their relationship with the other, is being corrected. It boggles my mind why being corrected should be such an offense to people, but it is.


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20 Jun 2009, 8:31 pm

Alphabetania wrote:
I am very pedantic -- and most certainly also female. Anyone who can outdo my pedantry gets my immediate interest. There's a guy on a mailing list we have for organising geek get-togethers, and he corrects me ON THE MAILING LIST where everyone can read it! I absolutely love it when he does that.

FWIW, I think you'd find better companionship from an Aspie woman.

(Oh, eh, that was not intended as a solicitous or flirtatious statement, though. My heart has been checked out of the library.)


Perhaps I am but I have No reliable way of finding SINGLE aspie women in any given area, like the city that I live in. I know they're out there but until I can find a reliable way to meet them(I once tried a dating site for the mentally abnormal which included Autism/Aspergers among the list of diagnoses but no luck there either :( ). But to me, the fact that the ViolaPlayer1987 is a musicians really says a lot to me about her reactions. Ive noticed that women who pursue the performing arts have certainly personality traits, like wanting to be the center of attention and being extremely judgemental of others but having the attitude that no one has the right to judge them.



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20 Jun 2009, 9:30 pm

I find pedantry and taking things literally pretty annoying when it's unnecessary. Like if I need to go to the washroom, I just say I need to take a s**t/piss. Can you imagine what type of weird s**t would unfold if I started talking like a University professor over something as simple as that?



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20 Jun 2009, 9:42 pm

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The 'no experience' seems quite catch 22, a guy is going out to get experience but a girl won't let him because he doesn't have that experience haha

I used to have that same problem. I solved it by seeing escorts; basically, paying for it. After seeing even one escort, something in my facial expressions and body language (you know, the non-verbal stuff) changed enough to put me in a more positive light. Soon enough, I was able to get dates without extensive effort on my part.

It was a quick and dirty way of solving my problem, but I did what I had to do. And most importantly, it helped me a lot.



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20 Jun 2009, 10:41 pm

From an NT perspective you were definitely pedantic. She wasn't looking for knowledge or to be corrected on what she considers an irrelevant detail, but for validation and pumping up her ego.

From an Aspie standpoint you were perfectly logical. Which, of course, is the problem when interacting with NTs.



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20 Jun 2009, 11:53 pm

KnightGhost is right. From what he has said, I believe there are a lot of people on here that haven't been diagnosed but really have it. then we have those others who haven't been diagnosed and don't really have it. a lot of times I state facts and I'll get bad responses back from people who are undiagnosed, making me come to the conclusion that they don't really have Asperger's Syndrome to begin with.



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20 Jun 2009, 11:58 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
Based on what I witnessed and heard (From women) the most famous turn-offs to women:

- Shyness or Social awkwardness (usually project lack of confidence)


The issue of a lack of confidence has many solutions suggested. Zach Weiner suggested this:

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Gearoid Molloy had a very interested possible solution a while back:

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More recently, however, he has suggested another way:

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21 Jun 2009, 12:09 am

If women really want confidence then why is it that a guy who is seen as strange or insecure, can get an unattractive girl (ugly girl) , by just being himself around her. But if he's himself around an attractive girl then he's a loser.

Or do all women want the same thing, and only the pretty one's are the only ones able to get it??

????Hmmm??



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21 Jun 2009, 12:29 am

here's how it is.

Guys like pretty girls, and will chase them only so long until he starts looking stupid

Girls want everything, and after that they still arent happy, and will chase a guy that is either playing games or doesnt really like her. She will chase him until its too late, until her life is messed up ..as in (marrying jerks, or getting a bum bf).

Girls dont need a personality to attract guys. When guys say, I like older women because they are more confident. BS. The confidence that older women have, give them the power to accept themselves and that causes them to accept many more men. And when a man is accepted by a woman, that's an easy way in to a relationship or much more. Confidence cause women to not have bitchy personalities, which men like as well because its easy access to a relatiosnship with a beautiful women.
Guys like women who are independent because she wont be in his pocket all the time, not because it shows confidence and she's strong. It takes a load off of the man.

Men want stuff easy, but women want stuff dificult.



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21 Jun 2009, 1:22 am

Travell wrote:
f**k this girl. she didn't wanna talk to you in the first place. anyways like I've been saying, there is a world of women out there that likes aspie guys and other types of guys, the problem is it that they are unattractive.

Aspie guys problem is that we have trouble getting attractive girls. We only want attractive girls. i mean come on, anyone can get a gf, its just that not everyone can get the one they want.So do we act different? hell naw, f**k those girls, they aint sh**.
Also the girl is obviously insecure. But aspie guys like any guy would date an insecure girl if she looks good. all men care about are looks and its true.
all i care about is looks and an accepting personality. all the rest of that garbage i dont care. i dont care if shes insecure, self conscious or whatever. she's a human being and people have problems. men dont reject women because of natural problems such as insecurity and so forth, because it doesnt matter, we are all people, and we are all self conscious


Holy s**t, Travell, you've got it all figured out!

I've taken the liberty of highlighting everything that is BS in bold, and italicizing reasons why you shall remain perpetually single. Use my example as a guideline for highlighting your own post above.

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all men care about are looks and its true.
all i care about is looks...


I have picked out the above segment because it highlights further stupidity. If it was truly a fact that men care only about looks, it would be redundant for you to say that you only care about looks. Thus, you are insecure about your own argument, as you very well should be.

Finally, I have simplified your post for those who do not wish to read it all: I want a girl out of a magazine who has such low standards that she will put out to anybody. I suggest you stop taking your social "knowledge" from high school.



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21 Jun 2009, 1:31 am

Zornslemma wrote:
But to me, the fact that the ViolaPlayer1987 is a musicians really says a lot to me about her reactions. Ive noticed that women who pursue the performing arts have certainly personality traits, like wanting to be the center of attention and being extremely judgemental of others but having the attitude that no one has the right to judge them.


so Travell made an accurate judgement regarding her and people on here jump on him. lol :mrgreen:

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Men want stuff easy, but women want stuff dificult.


again true-and it's BUILT INTO THEIR BRAIN WIRING. More subtle social gestures and whatnot. :idea:

Blasty wrote:
Holy sh**, Travell, you've got it all figured out!

*snip selective attacks*


So he forgot to say "from his experiences" or "from the examples he has knowledge of". In his cases, it may be "all" according to him and his history. Also note that what he says is true regarding some people's mate selection-something that may be influenced by cultures to one extent or another...

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I have picked out the above segment because it highlights further stupidity. If it was truly a fact that men care only about looks, it would be redundant for you to say that you only care about looks. Thus, you are insecure about your own argument, as you very well should be.


lol. He could've used that as a means of reinforcing his point (like "Longcat is Looong")

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Perhaps I am but I have No reliable way of finding SINGLE aspie women in any given area, like the city that I live in. I know they're out there but until I can find a reliable way to meet them(I once tried a dating site for the mentally abnormal which included Autism/Aspergers among the list of diagnoses but no luck there either :( ).


link (to the site I mean)?


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