He/She's Just Not That Into You
DITZY72 wrote:
ok well maybe someone can shed some light on this for me. since the guy I'm dating is an Aspie he has times when he needs to pull away... he won't call he needs time to himself... etc. I'm learning to deal with it... but it really does depress me when I don't hear from him cause I can't get enough of him.. anyway.... my friends then go into he's just not that into you or he wouldn't pull away and encourage me to date other people... which i don't want to do.... so if someone has to back off from the relationship to recharge and is unable to communicate that just kind of dissappears... how do you know if they are into you or not....??? I don't know if i worded that well... anyway....
Yes -- don't take it personally. A lot of us Aspies are very touch sensitive or very particular about our personal space, but still very much love our significant others and want affection. We just want to be able to pick and choose.
My wife sounds a lot like you. Very huggy, affectionate (she's latin), emotional, and wants to cuddle a lot. I tend to get claustrophobic if I'm hugged too much, so I have to push her away. She's used to it, she knows this is just how I am.
I'll tell you how bad it is, and I'm just slightly aspie, not full-out diagnosed -- When we were first dating, at one point she had to sleep over because she was accidentally locked out of her house. I was actually angry about it, because I had not had good experiences trying to sleep in a bed with another person (sex, different story, always loved it) and I thought I was going to lose sleep. Turned out it worked out fine, and my worries were baseless, but you get the picture of how set in our ways we can be, and how defensive we can be of our personal space and time.
roadGames wrote:
billsmithglendale wrote:
roadGames wrote:
billsmithglendale wrote:
SilverStar wrote:
Guys are in a catch-22 situation. If they don't have confidence to begin with (for whatever reasons), how are they ever going to gain any, when they get rejected all the time for not having it?
Basically, at some point, some woman gives you a chance, and in the course of that relationship, your self-confidence massively improves. That's how you get out of that hole. That's what happened with me -- it was like "Finally, someone I like likes me!"
Ways to make this happen -- stop complaining, especially to women, brush your hair, brush your teeth, dress decently or at least in clean clothes that match colors (black with black, brown with brown, shoes should match belt, belt should match shirts). Have a hobby, do well in school, and if you're out of school, get a job. Move out of your parent's house, if you live there.
And just keep meeting people, and don't shy away from rejection. It happens, that's life. I've tried to minimize it in my life, probably too much, but it's inevitable, and girls are usually at least very nice about it and classy.
Bill, you seem to have accumulated quite a bit of wisdom regarding these sorts of issues. This is very sensible.
Thanks -- Well, I learned the hard way
Lots of mistakes, lots of missed chances, but somehow, for all that, I ended up with the perfect person. And this was after a lot of heartache and negative feelings about myself and others, much of which I tend to see on this forum. I really feel for anyone who is as lonely as I was, and it does make me feel better to see that my issues were not unique. On that same point, my participation here is aimed at spreading the word about how life does get a lot better if you apply yourself, fix some problem behaviors, and let nature take its course.
If you'd ever like to make a thread giving us a sort recollection of some of these mistakes and missed chances and what you learned from them, that'd be really cool.
Goodness, and here I thought I was boring the crap out of everyone with my same advice over and over
One of the best places to see my stuff all in one lump is to go to the sticky "Nice Guys" thread at the top of this particular forum. Go back to December, probably mid-month or a little bit later. This was my first post, where I basically wrote out my whole set of theories on what I'd learned in life so far. I've also posted a lot since then, so pretty much anything else I write has these same lessons, but that particular post is the best place to see it all in one place.
Here it is on this page -- Direct link to my first post, click here
We can also talk in this thread or via PM's.
Short recap of me -- happily married, mid-30s, have had a few girlfriends, one affair, 2 girlfriends at once at some point, and some other things go on in my life (my wife forgave me for the affair). While my life didn't turn out exactly as planned (I would have liked to have dated a lot more before I got married, but I met the perfect person early in my life), I think I have gotten a good taste of the dating world, and am more clear now on what makes it happen, how you can tell when a girl is interested, and how to seize those opportunities.
OccamsIndecision wrote:
The only times I've been able to know whether a woman was into me was when she said so. Is there a site or book or something that lets men know exactly how to tell whether a woman does or doesn't want them?
Nope. Body language books come the closest to this, but there's still a lot of room for interpretation. My best hint for you is that if someone seems to always talk to you or go out of their way to talk to you, do things with you, ask you about your life, etc., they are very likely interested. If instead, they only talk to you at work or in class, are not interested in doing anything outside of class or work (that doesn't involve you helping them or doing a service for them that someone would normally get paid for) with you, they probably aren't interested.
