MikeH106 wrote:
sg33 wrote:
Of course the traits exist in human beings. My point is that people neglect to consider the role of cultural indoctrination in producing various gender-assigned traits.
Alright, I'll grant that social reinforcement plays
some role in gender personality. But I don't think it's entirely responsible.
What might be silly is if the positive and caring qualities of women are being 'negated' for men, who are encouraged to be stupid and destructive in our culture for the purpose of sexual dimorphism. "Oh, look, he can blow people's heads off! He's a
man!" Just because we're not the ones nursing babies doesn't mean we need to take our personalities to the ridiculously opposite extreme.
Just something for 'macho men' to think about.

U might notice that as culture and race evolves the physical properties of an individual looses their influence on his character and "traits"
for instance
Big muscles lost their function in the industrial and information age and it is no coincidence that this development and other like it encouraged the feminist movement
the same things applies for breasts as a factor in woman behavior or properties
evolution is also an endless process toward equality between male and female and this process is built on us defining ourselfs byound or above our fysical properties
some of us are left behind
a macho would look for and would attract to the "feminine" properties of a women
what attract me in a women is her creativity,independence,truthfulness... etc
i don't look for and i don't need the so called "feminine" properties in a women as i'm not a baby and I'm not a child and doesn't need nurturing or caring
what i need is courageous and wholesome person that is equal to me so we can create and observe and learn together on the basis of our mutual attraction to on another
women are my main and only obsession but it is an obsession of a grown man
BTW
Many AS women and man are considered androgynous by the current society standard and i feel lucky to be on of them as part of my lacking the so called "social skills" is my rejection of what is considered appropriate for man or a woman
yet
i know and feel that I'm 100 times more "man" than the average macho and i know that my detachment from what is considered appropriate in today society brings me much closer to true love
i had plenty of confirmations to strengthen my altitude toward this painful and complicated subject
most of them from a women who were like me
"autistics" that didn't give a cr#p on what society deemed apropriate for a man or a woman
only equality can enables the level of interaction and depth need to sustain love as the stereotypical limits our life to a vary narrow repertoire of acts,com channels and perceptions/