Misogyny vs. Misandry concerning rejection

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I'd beg to differ. If the guy or girl is more into life and getting it right looks really won't matter much in the rejection process, nor will the rejection process really be a 'Hah - I'm better than you' or a display of social leveraging power. When you're at that point of knowing what you want or at least what you clearly don't, its quite a different ballgame. I can't rule out that you wouldn't possibly get stuck up reactions from people who were just as immature before, just that when you're already looking past them it really won't mean anything to you.

you posted in this thread before, i think. it's resurrected.

I agree that the greater level of misogyny could be related to the greater proportion of males to females posting on this sub-forum. My person opinion of why all the misogyny occurs is, in agreement with another poster, due to the AS obsessiveness and thought looping tendencies. Misogyny is like a mind trap a male with AS can get stuck in, because of the obsessive thought looping, the misogyny becomes quickly very deeply rooted in all the thought processes of said male, and very difficult to displace.

Yeah, I noticed. I think the only thing I didn't realize is that we had only two posts from 2011 (today essentially). I'll have to watch that closer next time.

it was neat. i think you had the same opinion. once when i posted in an old thread i had a new opinion!! !!

Lol, occasionally I'm wiping sweat off my brow and thankful that I did myself proud. Hasn't happened yet but I'm sure it could go less flatteringly from somewhere :knock on wood:.

That's true of me. I tend to blame myself and get down on myself if I get rejected, not hate men. In some ways I think it would be healthier for me if I could react the other way.
~Kate

What do you mean by lapdogs in this context?

I think both sexes are equally bad at having a bad run and then making generalisations about the opposite sex. In real life I certainly see as many women complaining about there not being any intelligent/atrractive/whatever men as men doing the inverse. Though this forum is certainly male dominated so I think we see a bit more of that.

On the first page "intrinsic male privilege" was mentioned. What is that, and where can I get some?

Not to this broad, it doesn't!

Lol, I think it runs both ways as well. We guys apparently have no idea what its like to make 25% less per paycheck based on gender, and it seems like most women - aside from former women as FTM's (who have done some very revealing inteviews) - actually know what its like to be as socially cramped and restricted as guys are.

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I've seen quite a lot of those on Plenty Of Fish's forums.

It's been my experience that with rejection that I would blame myself a lot & I would sometimes say something in hurting frustration that would get misinterpreted as being hateful towards women in reality I didn't mean it like it sounded. Also there are some women(not most) who are very quick to accuse men of being hateful when in reality it is those women who are being hateful. It's kind of like a double standard.

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Could you point me toward some of those interviews? That sounds interesting.

I think men and women are pretty equal when it comes to gender disadvantages. But I think you hear less about men's issues because men are trained by society to behave in a stoic fashion. And because so many of us are brought up being taught to "let the girl win."

Wow, I'd have to dig. These were posted on L&D at least a year or two ago. There was a part in the thread where a guy was interviewed who fell to zero-testosterone and essentially became the ultimate buddhist without trying, and then you had the switch who was a very trendy and well-liked lesbian but when she became a man she found out that she couldn't say or do anything without the risk of getting beat up by other men, would be shoulder-checked constantly as whe walked and that the way she explained it was that men live under the straight-jacketed social code where if you fail your gender role you're ruined; and she had to laugh that when she observed all these things - as a former very trendy and well liked lesbian - that she was received as a misogynist by people who didn't know she was a switch.

I'll have to see if I can find it because, I agree, it was a very cool article. It would be interesting as well to see if there've been any MTF's who, lets say, prior to their conversion weren't convincingly different, lived normal male lives, and can comment on what the differences have been to experience the world as how their now treated (so long as people can't tell the difference at least).


The only thing that will really make that go away is by solving it without making it sound plaintiff, whiney, or victim-like. We know men aren't allowed to be victims, and in one hand that's very much in our favor - mainly because we can have a male awareness movement that's centered on something that both men and women agree on - that we can be rational to a fault and we can really say that we don't find this type of gender role uber alis bit practical anymore, that the tides have turned, and that the world's become so competitive that we can't reasonably expect ourselves to - say - forgo working in a field where we have a great degree of talent because its not seen as a masculine pursuit or don't want to force ourselves to grumble as minimally as possible to be seen as 'stoic' because networking means too much these days and you're ability to freely exchange ideas really makes or breaks you regardless of your gender.

i think the word mysogyny is thrown around here too much. Cause if those people complaining about women were trully mysogynistic then they wouldnt be looking for a girlfriend, no?

As for me I havent had much experience with women to dislike them. As it seems that both men and women dont want to be associated with me.

They'd likely have the attitude of "If a tree falls on a woman in the forest, what's a forest doing in the kitchen?" and unlike most guys who'd say that kind of thing it wouldn't be for laughs or to instigate with female friends, they'd actually mean it.