Who here has never been in a relationship?

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Willard
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14 Apr 2010, 10:48 am

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everytime some other poster mentions a fleshlight, i go YEAH! :D this option is MUCH better than going on a hormone suppressor which feels like the chemical neutering it is.


Well, the FL is one solution. I say go all out and splooge - er - splurge - for a RealDoll or a BoyToy. Same practical use, but a fun toy to accessorize and a quiet friend to talk to when you're feeling lonesome. Warning: buying outfits for a supersized Barbie can be both expensive and an addictive personal interest obsession.

At least...that's what I've heard... :roll: :wink:



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14 Apr 2010, 10:52 am

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Me.

I am getting to the point where I find it difficult to imagine ever being in a relationship. I live alone. I feel like my natural default setting is alone. It is a big scary thing for me when I start to feel attracted to someone. I don't know what to do. I dislike situations I have never been in before. I am ok once I have been through something and I understand what is expected of me. i.e. I hate the first few weeks of a new job, but after a few months have passed and I get into a routine and I know what is expected of me I feel more comfortable because I know what I am doing.

What scares me about a relationship is that if I get to the point where someone I really like, likes me too and wants to have a relationship, I won't know what to do. I expect he will be about my age he will have been in a relationship before and understand what happens, but I will be clueless.

I am beginning to think that I will never be in a relationship.

I once fell for someone I worked with. We spent almost everyday together, but never outside of the workplace. I feel broken-hearted and I miss him. We don't work together anymore and since then he is now in a relationship. I often wonder what would have happened if I had told him how I felt. But I don't seem to exude warmth or affection, so I just don't think guys can pick up on how I feel about them because they just can't see it because I can't show it.


Sounds very similar to what I've been through (with the proper gender reversal, of course).



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14 Apr 2010, 1:10 pm

I'm under 20, but I'm in the same boat as you. I crave the stuff often.



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14 Apr 2010, 1:38 pm

Willard wrote:
Well, the FL is one solution. I say go all out and splooge - er - splurge - for a RealDoll or a BoyToy. Same practical use, but a fun toy to accessorize and a quiet friend to talk to when you're feeling lonesome. Warning: buying outfits for a supersized Barbie can be both expensive and an addictive personal interest obsession.

At least...that's what I've heard... :roll: :wink:


Hmmm....."Willard and the Real Girl" huh? Somehow I did not see that one coming.


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14 Apr 2010, 2:07 pm

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Honestly, the way that comes natural to me, barring any kind of social norms would be the following:

Approach girl and say Hi then ask if she likes X (X being something I'm interested in). If she says yes, I would ask a follow up question about that topic. If she said no, I would ask if she likes Y. I would repeat until either she says she does like or is interested in something that I find interesting or else I would determine that we don't share enough interests and that trying to maintain a coversation and develop something further would be an exercise in futility.

I just find it hard to believe that a girl wouldn't be weirded out by some random guy walking up to her and start asking her a bunch of check list questions.


@Bataar, your approach seems a bit limiting to me. It kinda goes back to an impression I have of some Aspie guys' approach to dating: they tend to think in terms of how they could integrate a woman into their life/interests, rather than thinking about the other side of that issue: the new interests a woman could introduce them to. I guess you have to consider if you're open to broadening your interests in order to pursue a relationship. So instead of running through your list of interests, perhaps ask the young lady about her interests? (I'm not referring to special interests here....just subjects, hobbies, etc. that you may find casually interesting.)

I'm in complete agreement with you. I just don't know how to do that. The idea of casual "get to know you" small talk is just such an alien concept to me. It's not that I'm opposed to it, it's just that I don't grasp it. It is a similar feeling as if someone told me I need to speak to her in fluent Chinese or something. When I talk, the most important thing is the subject I/we are talking about. For most people, I get the impression that they can talk for a long time and have absolutely no care at all for what they are talking about, because that's not the point to them. It's the "filler / normal" talk that kills me. If I'm at the party and see the girl and instead of going up to her and running through my check list, I'd be at a loss. I get the feeling she'd be just as weirded out if some random she never met just walks up to her introduces himself and just asks her what her hobbies are. Our society demands some meaningless bridge of small talk to get to that point.



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14 Apr 2010, 2:10 pm

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therange, I don't care about sexual intecourse; I care about intimate companionship.

astaut, I should have mentioned this, but you're a female and that makes it easier.

zeldapsychology, I'm deeply sorry for asking such a rude question, but are you an attractive and smart girl? If you are, maybe we can try and work something out?

auntblabby, I am not "nobody's idea of mate material". I have been told by a good number of people that I am very attractive, and have received many signs of high interest. It's just that I have social anxiety disorder on top of my AS, and not to brag, but also a considerably higher than average I.Q. This is what makes it so exceedingly difficult.



LOL! Thanks. I wouldn't say I'm attractive but can be smart if I focus on my special interest. :-)



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14 Apr 2010, 2:16 pm

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Somehow I did not see that one coming.



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14 Apr 2010, 2:28 pm

@Willard, you're an engraver, too?


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14 Apr 2010, 2:31 pm

:twisted: Licensed Professional Painmaker. Thought you knew.



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14 Apr 2010, 2:44 pm

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I'm in complete agreement with you. I just don't know how to do that. The idea of casual "get to know you" small talk is just such an alien concept to me. It's not that I'm opposed to it, it's just that I don't grasp it. It is a similar feeling as if someone told me I need to speak to her in fluent Chinese or something. When I talk, the most important thing is the subject I/we are talking about. For most people, I get the impression that they can talk for a long time and have absolutely no care at all for what they are talking about, because that's not the point to them. It's the "filler / normal" talk that kills me. If I'm at the party and see the girl and instead of going up to her and running through my check list, I'd be at a loss. I get the feeling she'd be just as weirded out if some random she never met just walks up to her introduces himself and just asks her what her hobbies are. Our society demands some meaningless bridge of small talk to get to that point.


@Bataar, most women would not be weirded out by a man approaching them at a party. Really, they wouldn't....that's what parties are for - seeing old friends and making new friends. (I know that if you're just out in public the rules are different, but they are definitely more relaxed within the context of a party.) As long as you keep an appropriate distance and manage your eye contact (no flitting, no staring), I'd venture the say that women would not generally be weirded out by you.

I understand your problem with small talk...do you have someone to practice with? That may sound a little lame, but everybody gets better at performing difficult tasks with practice. There are some non-checklisty ways to open a discussion at a party: introduce yourself; talk about why you're at the party/who you know, e.g., "I work with Mike over at the university [or whatever]. Are you one of Cindy's friends?" Think of some way to compliment her, e.g., "I heard your laugh and I knew I had to meet you," or something sweet and non-creepy. Or, if you're at a party with mutual friends, ask someone to introduce you. Part of the whole small talk thing is understanding that people generally like to talk about themselves - as long as the person inquiring appears genuinely interested. If a woman senses that you're just waiting for her to finish speaking so you can talk, she'll probably assume that you're just trying to get to know her well enough to nail her, rather than that you may just be nervous, or unskilled/unpracticed at the fine art of conversation. So I do encourage you to work on developing the small talk skill, if only to make sure women don't mistake you for a player. It will probably serve you well, because when you do find a nice young lady to date, you're going to have to listen to her - even when she wants to talk about things that aren't particularly interesting to you.


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14 Apr 2010, 2:49 pm

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:twisted: Licensed Professional Painmaker. Thought you knew.


Nope - would not have even guessed. Don't know why, but I have to admit I'm a bit surprised. Btw, can they make those dolls look smart? Yours looks like she just said, "Huh?" - which is kinda funny when it's a permanent expression. :wink: (Although I guess you're not really all that interested in her expression.)


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14 Apr 2010, 2:57 pm

it would be hard not to be in any type of relationshiop, if you are currently a hermit


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14 Apr 2010, 3:07 pm

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, can they make those dolls look smart? Yours looks like she just said, "Huh?" - which is kinda funny when it's a permanent expression. :wink: (Although I guess you're not really all that interested in her expression.)


:D I've known plenty of actual girls who had that same permanent expression.

It all depends on where you're standing. Since the expression doesn't change, it looks animated and alive if you're standing in what would be the doll's 'line-of-sight' and have the illusion of eye contact. That one usually sits in the tattoo chair when it's not in use (the chair, that is), and as you come down the hall, it does look like it's about to start speaking to you. If you're to one side or the other, it looks like what it is, a doll. Like Bratz and Barbies, they only have one expression. Although, on these the eyeballs and the eyelids are adjustable, so you can change it a bit, but by it's inanimate nature, it's still quite static.

Which I suppose is how a lot of folks perceive the Aspie look of no eye contact and limited facial expression. :?

But it's real looking enough to make me jump out of my skin from time to time even though I knew it was there before I walked into the room. She's so quiet, sometimes I forget she's around. :oops:



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14 Apr 2010, 3:28 pm

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:D I've known plenty of actual girls who had that same permanent expression.

It all depends on where you're standing. Since the expression doesn't change, it looks animated and alive if you're standing in what would be the doll's 'line-of-sight' and have the illusion of eye contact. That one usually sits in the tattoo chair when it's not in use (the chair, that is), and as you come down the hall, it does look like it's about to start speaking to you. If you're to one side or the other, it looks like what it is, a doll. Like Bratz and Barbies, they only have one expression. Although, on these the eyeballs and the eyelids are adjustable, so you can change it a bit, but by it's inanimate nature, it's still quite static.

Which I suppose is how a lot of folks perceive the Aspie look of no eye contact and limited facial expression. :?

But it's real looking enough to make me jump out of my skin from time to time even though I knew it was there before I walked into the room. She's so quiet, sometimes I forget she's around. :oops:


"She's so quiet, sometimes I forget she's around." :lmao: Dude, if she wasn't so quiet, I'd be a tad worried about you. Also, her facial expression does not remind me of any Aspies I've known....regardless of expression, one can always sense intelligence.

Have you posted any of your art? It would be interesting to see.


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14 Apr 2010, 3:49 pm

I wouldn't necessarily call them relationships.

They were too brief to be even considered such but I guess it depends upon how one defines a relationship or at least a satisfying one.

Haven't been in one for 4 years.


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14 Apr 2010, 4:07 pm

@HopeGrows
Veering wildy off-topic...



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