Are attractive women usually taken?

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07 Jul 2010, 3:08 am

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Then they have that conversation with her where she finally mentions "my boyfriend" or "my husband," etc.

Don't you think she sees that little change in your face as your heart and dreams crumble? Don't you think she sees your face fall just that little bit (even though you try to hide it)
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Sigh. :cry: I've had this conversation a few times. It hurts. They can see that spear just go straight through your heart right then.

I've come to the conclusion that all good women are taken. Of course they are. Why should I ever assume different? It's just that some other guy has always beaten me to it.

There is someone I am very fond of at the moment at work, and she seems to like me too. At least as a friend. She hasn't rejected my approaches. And the BF word hasn't come up in our conversations yet. But I won't be surprised if it does :cry: She's a very lovely woman, so why wouldn't someone have already beaten me to her?



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07 Jul 2010, 3:13 am

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I find the thought of hanging onto a woman or multiple women for the tiny hope she/they may be single in future to be the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. What a waste of a life.



I think the initial reference to this here was more based on cultivating friendships first. It's ridiculous like you said if "hanging on" is about nothing but some long shot chance at "making things work", but at least for me, if I really dig someone I'm perfectly fine being friends. There's no reason to duck out on someone awesome just cause she's taken. If it somehow works out later that's great, if not, it isn't the end of the world. Being friends is great by me.

And I can see that we're coming at this from kinda two different angles, but there is some overlap. Hanging onto hope w/ some brief acquaintance is horrid. Keeping someone in the middle-back of your mind who's been genuinely close to you for a long time, that's different imo.


In that case its almost a waste of time because you've been friend zoned.


Sigh. I've always been in the 'friend zone'. Women like me as a friend, but never anything more. I think its because I'm too nice. I treat them as if I'm not interested romantically, and talk to them like I'm their brother. I suppose girls don't want another 'girl' (unless they're gay of course), but a MAN.



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07 Jul 2010, 3:35 am

The reason no-one has beaten you to her is beacuse being able to nab a date is all about timing, not you being undatable or anything (unless its a lie used over and over again)

You might go out with her and some other guy will think "some other guy always beats me".



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07 Jul 2010, 4:05 am

Attractive girls tend to be taken most of the time. There are a few who arent, and once they hit the dating sites or go out, 1000's of guys... and sometimes even heterosexual girls are hitting on them :P

As for the "ring" factor; i've heard of women who put rings on their fingers when they go out just to be able to have a "girls night out" and be left alone. I've also heard from one girl who wore a ring she inherited from her grandma, I asked about a picture i saw of her wearing it and she really didn't sound as if she knew why she were single :roll:


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07 Jul 2010, 4:11 am

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Attractive girls tend to be taken most of the time. There are a few who arent, and once they hit the dating sites or go out, 1000's of guys... and sometimes even heterosexual girls are hitting on them :P

As for the "ring" factor; i've heard of women who put rings on their fingers when they go out just to be able to have a "girls night out" and be left alone. I've also heard from one girl who wore a ring she inherited from her grandma, I asked about a picture i saw of her wearing it and she really didn't sound as if she knew why she were single :roll:


The first and last time I wore a ring on my wedding finger a lady in a shop asked me when I was getting married. I was pretty embarrased and never did it again.



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07 Jul 2010, 7:22 am

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I've sought a girlfriend for two years, yet it has been my experienc that almost all the women my age who I find attractive claim to already have boyfriends.?


do you men physically attractive? i guess you do.
i can not see what everyone else sees as far as physical desirability is concerned.

unattractiveness in my mind means that they are covered in scabs or otherwise they display signs of a contractable illness.

if someone is not proportioned in a way that stirs your interest, then you are only attracted to a recipe and not a person.

the most simple people in the world can be the most beautiful to me,

angelina joley (sp?) is a hideously frightening person to look at and i see the throngs of males who all proclaim their desire for people who look like that.

there are so many flopping cocks that rule the minds of their owners who are drawn like moths to a flame that will kill them.

i can not see prettiness, but i can see healthiness.
but if someone i love is unhealthy, then i will try my best to help them back to health.
i will never just scan their facial or bodily structure and then decide whether i will devote my energy to someone else

i do not know why you say that all the attractive girls are taken.
who are they taken by?

not all pretty girls are replete and eternally happy with who they are with,

but i am not really interested in how a girl looks.
you are condemned by your narrow preference for only the "prettiest" of girls.

honestly... a pretty face that appeals to your eyes maybe a dead soul that does not nourish your life. and your life therefore will be no nourishment to their life either.

pretty girls are not more essentially full of spirit than just normal girls.

you are in a butcher shop searching for the best cuts that are on display.

all the cuts that you desire may well be just dressed and salted carcasses.

living intention is the most beautiful thing, and it surpasses the "beauty" of the shape of a persons face or body.



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07 Jul 2010, 8:20 am

^ great post


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07 Jul 2010, 11:26 am

b9 wrote:
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I've sought a girlfriend for two years, yet it has been my experienc that almost all the women my age who I find attractive claim to already have boyfriends.?


do you men physically attractive? i guess you do.
i can not see what everyone else sees as far as physical desirability is concerned.

unattractiveness in my mind means that they are covered in scabs or otherwise they display signs of a contractable illness.

if someone is not proportioned in a way that stirs your interest, then you are only attracted to a recipe and not a person.

the most simple people in the world can be the most beautiful to me,

angelina joley (sp?) is a hideously frightening person to look at and i see the throngs of males who all proclaim their desire for people who look like that.



To all guys and girls, please refrain using Angelina Jolie as a "proof" that the "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" (in fact, beauty is more universal than you think, the beholder represent the vast majority). I know many guys who don't find Angelina as attractive as the media showing her, maybe due to her ruined lips. Besides, Angelina, like most humans, is losing more attractiveness due to age.

But, I doubt, any guy here would deny how attractive Monica Bellucci or Zeta Jones are.



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07 Jul 2010, 11:30 am

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I've sought a girlfriend for two years, yet it has been my experience that almost all the women my age who I find attractive claim to already have boyfriends. Are these women telling the truth, or is pretending to have a boyfriend the current popular way to reject a man's advances?



Give us concrete examples how are the girls that you find them attractive.



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07 Jul 2010, 11:51 am

hale_bopp wrote:
amazon_television wrote:
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BrandonSP wrote:
I find the thought of hanging onto a woman or multiple women for the tiny hope she/they may be single in future to be the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. What a waste of a life.



I think the initial reference to this here was more based on cultivating friendships first. It's ridiculous like you said if "hanging on" is about nothing but some long shot chance at "making things work", but at least for me, if I really dig someone I'm perfectly fine being friends. There's no reason to duck out on someone awesome just cause she's taken. If it somehow works out later that's great, if not, it isn't the end of the world. Being friends is great by me.

And I can see that we're coming at this from kinda two different angles, but there is some overlap. Hanging onto hope w/ some brief acquaintance is horrid. Keeping someone in the middle-back of your mind who's been genuinely close to you for a long time, that's different imo.


In that case its almost a waste of time because you've been friend zoned.


Not always, but yes, that can happen, and if it does, it's your fault.

First off -- women only friend zone guys that they don't plan on sleeping with or dating. So if a woman suddenly becomes way too casual with you, takes you for granted, uses you with no sign of reciprocation -- cut them off. Don't be nasty, just stop calling, taking her calls, etc. She'll get the hint. And you won't lose anything, because there was nothing there in the first place if you got friend zoned.

But there are other friends, the ones where you both know you like each other -- those you won't get friend zoned by.

Learn to tell the difference, and you'll be a happy man.



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07 Jul 2010, 12:08 pm

I've had the friend zone problem numerous times, but I take as a sign that I am a true gentleman...which I take to be a good thing

Women are hard to read, especially for us male Aspies :(


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07 Jul 2010, 4:36 pm

BrandonSP wrote:
I've sought a girlfriend for two years, yet it has been my experience that almost all the women my age who I find attractive claim to already have boyfriends. Are these women telling the truth, or is pretending to have a boyfriend the current popular way to reject a man's advances?


Attractive women can be had for $250 so what's the point of chasing after them?



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07 Jul 2010, 4:48 pm

BrandonSP wrote:
I've sought a girlfriend for two years, yet it has been my experience that almost all the women my age who I find attractive claim to already have boyfriends. Are these women telling the truth, or is pretending to have a boyfriend the current popular way to reject a man's advances?


Tell me... What does that mean? How have you sought a girlfriend? What have you done? What does seeking a girlfriend entail?

Serious question. We could perhaps help if we knew.



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07 Jul 2010, 5:22 pm

RICKY5 wrote:
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I've sought a girlfriend for two years, yet it has been my experience that almost all the women my age who I find attractive claim to already have boyfriends. Are these women telling the truth, or is pretending to have a boyfriend the current popular way to reject a man's advances?


Attractive women can be had for $250 so what's the point of chasing after them?


What I could get for $250 (or any amount of money) I wouldn't want -- I want someone to want it as much as I do, not someone clocking in to get my rocks off and then on to the next customer. When you can get a woman to beg you for it, that's when you know you've made it :)



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07 Jul 2010, 5:25 pm

One other thing I'd like to add on the issue of someone being "taken," whether they're telling the truth or not. I'd NEVER mess with a married woman. Just don't.

Depending on where you live, there might be "alienation of affection" laws. All it takes is a dude willing to pay a slick private investigator to follow you around and take some pictures and somebody's ex-husband will OWN you for the rest of your natural life.

Nevermind the fact that it is just WRONG. I'm not saying that just because I'm married. I've generally always kept my distance from married and even divorced women. There is typically a long waiting period from the time a divorce agreement has been reached and when the judge signs the final order. If either (ex)partner shacks up with someone so much as one day before that final order is signed, the other has grounds for contesting the divorce.

My PERSONAL feelings on this is that marriage vows are for life and that even divorced couples still "belong" to each other. With apologies to those in successful relationships with divorced partners, I would strongly recommend avoiding married individuals as well as divorced ones.



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07 Jul 2010, 5:36 pm

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Not always, but yes, that can happen, and if it does, it's your fault.

First off -- women only friend zone guys that they don't plan on sleeping with or dating. So if a woman suddenly becomes way too casual with you, takes you for granted, uses you with no sign of reciprocation -- cut them off. Don't be nasty, just stop calling, taking her calls, etc. She'll get the hint. And you won't lose anything, because there was nothing there in the first place if you got friend zoned.

But there are other friends, the ones where you both know you like each other -- those you won't get friend zoned by.

Learn to tell the difference, and you'll be a happy man.


Speaking from a womans perspective, we don't "friend zone" someone because of what we have "planned". Please don't try and tell me what women think - you aren't a woman. Also some women cannot pick up a hint that someone likes them and automatically friend zones the guy and is hurt when the guy no longer wants to be her "friend" and I think its disrespectful to pretend to be someones friend then cut them off when they don't give you sex or a relationship.