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07 Aug 2010, 1:17 pm

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You don't think a guy can want to just have sex without a relationship without objectifying them? Like "god, it would be wonderful to spend a night with you"


No. If he wants a one-night stand, then he's using her as a free hooker. And as nice as that line sounds, I'd still be offended. Like, "Am I only good enough for one of your nights? a**hole. " :/


I see. Its not a free hooker if its about two humans sharing their bodies and their souls. It doesn't have to be only a one night stand if both parties are interested in doing it again.



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07 Aug 2010, 1:17 pm

I agree with you both. I you're sexually frustrated, it's better to resort to your hand than somebody whom you don't love and doesn't love you back.



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07 Aug 2010, 1:22 pm

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You don't think a guy can want to just have sex without a relationship without objectifying them? Like "god, it would be wonderful to spend a night with you"


No. If he wants a one-night stand, then he's using her as a free hooker. And as nice as that line sounds, I'd still be offended. Like, "Am I only good enough for one of your nights? a**hole. " :/


I see. Its not a free hooker if its about two humans sharing their bodies and their souls. It doesn't have to be only a one night stand if both parties are interested in doing it again.


...?

Sorry, I don't think in a philosophical manner in regards to sex. Personally, I wouldn't expect the guy to be interested in doing it again. Besides, if a girl has sex with someone she just met makes her a whore. A lot of women don't want this kind of reputation so she will reject you if she doesn't know you. :/

@Tiggurix - I don't like masturbating, sorry. It's too messy and it just doesn't feel good. :/



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07 Aug 2010, 1:30 pm

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You don't think a guy can want to just have sex without a relationship without objectifying them? Like "god, it would be wonderful to spend a night with you"


No. If he wants a one-night stand, then he's using her as a free hooker. And as nice as that line sounds, I'd still be offended. Like, "Am I only good enough for one of your nights? a**hole. " :/


I see. Its not a free hooker if its about two humans sharing their bodies and their souls. It doesn't have to be only a one night stand if both parties are interested in doing it again.


...?

Sorry, I don't think in a philosophical manner in regards to sex. Personally, I wouldn't expect the guy to be interested in doing it again. Besides, if a girl has sex with someone she just met makes her a whore. A lot of women don't want this kind of reputation so she will reject you if she doesn't know you. :/

@Tiggurix - I don't like masturbating, sorry. It's too messy and it just doesn't feel good. :/


Thats really sad IMO. A women should be allowed to make love to whoever she pleases.



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07 Aug 2010, 1:31 pm

Gosh, I always thought hitting on someone was just letting them know I find them attractive and want to get to know them better. Hitting on someone is a very direct flirt, but give us guys some credit, we are not all sex crazed maniacs. One night stands are not cool/ Sex should be a huge step in a relationship.


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07 Aug 2010, 1:31 pm

JohnisBlind wrote:
Erisad wrote:
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Erisad wrote:
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You don't think a guy can want to just have sex without a relationship without objectifying them? Like "god, it would be wonderful to spend a night with you"


No. If he wants a one-night stand, then he's using her as a free hooker. And as nice as that line sounds, I'd still be offended. Like, "Am I only good enough for one of your nights? a**hole. " :/


I see. Its not a free hooker if its about two humans sharing their bodies and their souls. It doesn't have to be only a one night stand if both parties are interested in doing it again.


...?

Sorry, I don't think in a philosophical manner in regards to sex. Personally, I wouldn't expect the guy to be interested in doing it again. Besides, if a girl has sex with someone she just met makes her a whore. A lot of women don't want this kind of reputation so she will reject you if she doesn't know you. :/

@Tiggurix - I don't like masturbating, sorry. It's too messy and it just doesn't feel good. :/


Thats really sad IMO. A women should be allowed to make love to whoever she pleases.


It's not "making love" if you just met the person. It's just sex! D:



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07 Aug 2010, 1:34 pm

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Gosh, I always thought hitting on someone was just letting them know I find them attractive and want to get to know them better. Hitting on someone is a very direct flirt, but give us guys some credit, we are not all sex crazed maniacs. One night stands are not cool/ Sex should be a huge step in a relationship.


Based on how I see guys behave, I'm not so sure about that. A guy cheated and left me because I wouldn't give him my virginity in the three weeks we were dating. Pardon me for not being a skanky whore. :/

I'll give guys credit when I actually see them not acting like animals around an attractive girl. D:



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07 Aug 2010, 1:42 pm

Erisad wrote:
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Gosh, I always thought hitting on someone was just letting them know I find them attractive and want to get to know them better. Hitting on someone is a very direct flirt, but give us guys some credit, we are not all sex crazed maniacs. One night stands are not cool/ Sex should be a huge step in a relationship.


Based on how I see guys behave, I'm not so sure about that. A guy cheated and left me because I wouldn't give him my virginity in the three weeks we were dating. Pardon me for not being a skanky whore. :/

I'll give guys credit when I actually see them not acting like animals around an attractive girl. D:


Please, don't let your bad experience with a guy color how you perceive men. I can see you have been hurt badly, and that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than the fact that he is an a**hole.

A lot of guys are wary about making a girl lose her virginity because they feel that they are more responsible toward her. It sucks but that's the way it is.



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07 Aug 2010, 1:45 pm

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@Tiggurix - I don't like masturbating, sorry. It's too messy and it just doesn't feel good. :/

Then how do you alleviate sexual frustration? Meditation?



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07 Aug 2010, 2:24 pm

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@Tiggurix - I don't like masturbating, sorry. It's too messy and it just doesn't feel good. :/

Then how do you alleviate sexual frustration? Meditation?


I cry or try to distract myself as much as humanly possible from it. My attention span is too short for meditation. :(

@JohnisBlind - It's not just my experiences that makes me think this way. It's my mothers, my friends and 80% of the women I see around me being beaten, lied to and cheated on by their significant others. :(



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07 Aug 2010, 2:41 pm

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@Tiggurix - I don't like masturbating, sorry. It's too messy and it just doesn't feel good. :/

Then how do you alleviate sexual frustration? Meditation?


I cry or try to distract myself as much as humanly possible from it. My attention span is too short for meditation. :(
That is only going to make it worse. Masturbation is better than nothing, even if you do not like it, and it helps make you more comfortable with your own sexuality, so that your first real sexual experiences can be as comfortable as possible. Or at least that's what I've read.

But if it's really not an option, then I hope and pray that the first man you take these first steps with will be a good one, and that you will have an enjoyable introduction to sex, since I've heard that for far too many, their first experiences were not really good ones, and I hope you can avoid that. As I said, masturbation may actually help in that regard, but it's your choice.



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07 Aug 2010, 3:05 pm

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@Tiggurix - I don't like masturbating, sorry. It's too messy and it just doesn't feel good. :/

Then how do you alleviate sexual frustration? Meditation?


I cry or try to distract myself as much as humanly possible from it. My attention span is too short for meditation. :(

@JohnisBlind - It's not just my experiences that makes me think this way. It's my mothers, my friends and 80% of the women I see around me being beaten, lied to and cheated on by their significant others. :(


Sexual frustration makes you cry? I think that is sad. :cry:



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07 Aug 2010, 3:59 pm

@Tiggurix- It's kinda hard to masturbate when your Grandmother's room is right across from yours and the vent in your room (beneath the bed) leads to my mom's room. So yeah, no privacy for me. D:

@JohnisBlind - either that or I get angry first and cry later. Depends on my mood. I guess I'm not as frustrated with the lack of sex as I am with the lack of love in my life. Not to mention the constant barrage of questions from my mom and grandma every time I come home from college, "Do you have a boyfriend yet? When are you getting married? I want grandchildren." I then cry myself to sleep at night, knowing I can't ever meet their requests. :(



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07 Aug 2010, 4:08 pm

@Erisad: What have you tried to do to find a man you like? I'm sure it wouldn't be so hard, especially if you're female, and especially if you're cute! But you're young, at least, and as I'm certain you know, men love youth in women. Why don't you try finding an older man? Shouldn't be too difficult for someone your age, I believe, and if you've already tried it and it didn't work, well, try again. There are plenty of men out there, and almost certainly one who'd be willing to love you.



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07 Aug 2010, 4:14 pm

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@Erisad: What have you tried to do to find a man you like? I'm sure it wouldn't be so hard, especially if you're female, and especially if you're cute! But you're young, at least, and as I'm certain you know, men love youth in women. Why don't you try finding an older man? Shouldn't be too difficult for someone your age, I believe, and if you've already tried it and it didn't work, well, try again. There are plenty of men out there, and almost certainly one who'd be willing to love you.


I don't know. I usually ask out those who give me a butterfly-flutter feeling. This isn't too many people. Guys don't ask me out so I always have to take the first step. During the school year, I'd go out with my friends 1 to 2 times a week to a restaurant or bar. It depends on how much work I have to do. But what guy in his right mind would ask me out? I weigh half as much as an NFL line-backer. Chubby-chasers don't exist in college. :(

At home, I don't do anything but surf online dating sites and that's it. I don't have friends in my home area because everyone from high school either hates me or is too busy to hang out with me. Mom isn't confident in dating sites so she'll probably ban me from meeting anyone I find. :(



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07 Aug 2010, 4:18 pm

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@Tiggurix- It's kinda hard to masturbate when your Grandmother's room is right across from yours and the vent in your room (beneath the bed) leads to my mom's room. So yeah, no privacy for me. D:

@JohnisBlind - either that or I get angry first and cry later. Depends on my mood. I guess I'm not as frustrated with the lack of sex as I am with the lack of love in my life. Not to mention the constant barrage of questions from my mom and grandma every time I come home from college, "Do you have a boyfriend yet? When are you getting married? I want grandchildren." I then cry myself to sleep at night, knowing I can't ever meet their requests. :(


21 years old and they want grandkids? The old folks don't know whats going on.


That is still sad though..

I also think that there are good men. And there is a good man out there that wants to hold you tight. Please don't lose faith.