Is Wrong Planet kind of like the blind leading the blind?

Page 3 of 4 [ 62 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

techstepgenr8tion
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2005
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,593
Location: 28th Path of Tzaddi

10 Oct 2010, 10:16 pm

Depends on the person. Keep in mind that people can be loaded with good advice that's true regardless of whether they themselves can apply it. With AS as well, social skills are 1/3 knowledge and 2/3 will your nervous system let you apply that knowledge? When you're wired differently it means you'll have slightly different wants different needs, and just like enough intelligent NT's can tell you - you don't need to be a basketcase to fail spectactularly in dating. Its actually almost the opposite - if you don't have enough of an animalistic side to draw on you're more often doomed.



chrissyrun
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2010
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,788
Location: Hell :)

30 Jun 2011, 11:23 pm

No....it's like the people with foggy vision leading the visually impaired leading the blind. :lol: Much different.



daspie
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Mar 2007
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,018
Location: Delhi

01 Jul 2011, 2:04 am

chrissyrun wrote:
No....it's like the people with foggy vision leading the visually impaired leading the blind. :lol: Much different.

Well, people with foggy vision can also lead the blinds one :). But your overall message is very right.



Adam82
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 29 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 615

01 Jul 2011, 3:42 am

Well, I feel like a total freak, even for an Aspie, as I've made it to nearly 29 with no romantic contact with a female ever, so obviously I must be doing something wrong. Everyone here has more experience than I do, so I don't necessarily think it's a case of the blind leading the blind.



cdfox7
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Mar 2011
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,700

01 Jul 2011, 4:05 am

mmm.am going to ask a philosophical question here...Is sight the only sense to lead by?
I have a family friend and had an great aunt who are and were blind plus a good friend of mine from my university days as a visually impairment. All three of theses people perceive the world in a diffenent way that relies on the other senses!
Can NTs perceive the word like we on the spectrum perceive the world, NO! Each and every one of use had an unique and individual percetive on life.



daspie
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Mar 2007
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,018
Location: Delhi

01 Jul 2011, 7:27 am

cdfox7 wrote:
mmm.am going to ask a philosophical question here...Is sight the only sense to lead by?
I have a family friend and had an great aunt who are and were blind plus a good friend of mine from my university days as a visually impairment. All three of theses people perceive the world in a diffenent way that relies on the other senses!
Can NTs perceive the word like we on the spectrum perceive the world, NO! Each and every one of use had an unique and individual percetive on life.

You took the word "blind" literally :).



cdfox7
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Mar 2011
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,700

01 Jul 2011, 8:03 am

daspie wrote:
cdfox7 wrote:
mmm.am going to ask a philosophical question here...Is sight the only sense to lead by?
I have a family friend and had an great aunt who are and were blind plus a good friend of mine from my university days as a visually impairment. All three of theses people perceive the world in a diffenent way that relies on the other senses!
Can NTs perceive the word like we on the spectrum perceive the world, NO! Each and every one of use had an unique and individual percetive on life.

You took the word "blind" literally :).


I can take it both ways I also know a few people irl who have 20/20 vision and are at times metaphorically blind. Its just a question of personal sensory perception. We all have are our view of the world its like a map, now is it really the territory that we experience? If you don't undertand the concept I just talked about you might wish to look at Alfred Korzybski's map-territory relation.



Last edited by cdfox7 on 01 Jul 2011, 4:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

ToughDiamond
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Sep 2008
Age: 72
Gender: Male
Posts: 14,534

01 Jul 2011, 8:32 am

Yes and no. It's a bit like the question of whether an Aspie is better off having a relationship with a NT or another Aspie. At least we understand the syndrome from the inside, but I don't think everybody on this forum makes enough adjustment for Aspie behaviour, and I think that's what drives a lot of the nasty posting that goes on.



chrissyrun
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Oct 2010
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,788
Location: Hell :)

01 Jul 2011, 1:21 pm

Adam82 wrote:
Everyone here has more experience than I do


Soooooooo not even true. Every single person has had more than me. And if you have gone on even one date (even group ones) you are equal to my experience.



oddness
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 19 Apr 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 83

01 Jul 2011, 4:38 pm

I think it sort of is. Even in the literal sense it is people with the same type of impairment helping each other.

I think this is a good thing because the people posting the questions are not ridiculed for being different or strange because the people answering understand the difficulties they are facing and may have had similar problems them selves, so can hopefully offer tried and tested solutions.

I sort of think of life as a puzzle you need other people to give you the keys to get through it. And aspies tend to have the keys that other aspies find useful. And NTs have the keys that NTs find useful. More often than not NTs keys dont work in the aspies puzzle of life.



hyperlexian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
Age: 53
Gender: Female
Posts: 22,023
Location: with bucephalus

04 Jul 2011, 10:18 pm

MCalavera2 wrote:
Most of the time, yes. Women aren't generally qualified to give proper advice to men and vice versa.

not really true, cuz i know what works on me. and i know what doesn't work. i also have a large number of female friends, which many males do not have.

and men can tell me what works on them, and i have benefited from hearing their advice when dating. i think it is actually better to get advice from the opposite sex a lot of the time.


_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105


TeaEarlGreyHot
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Jul 2010
Age: 41
Gender: Female
Posts: 28,982
Location: California

04 Jul 2011, 10:22 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
MCalavera2 wrote:
Most of the time, yes. Women aren't generally qualified to give proper advice to men and vice versa.

not really true, cuz i know what works on me. and i know what doesn't work. i also have a large number of female friends, which many males do not have.

and men can tell me what works on them, and i have benefited from hearing their advice when dating. i think it is actually better to get advice from the opposite sex a lot of the time.


I think it's best to get perspectives from multiple sources before deciding on your course of action.


_________________
Still looking for that blue jean baby queen, prettiest girl I've ever seen.


hyperlexian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
Age: 53
Gender: Female
Posts: 22,023
Location: with bucephalus

04 Jul 2011, 10:25 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
MCalavera2 wrote:
Most of the time, yes. Women aren't generally qualified to give proper advice to men and vice versa.

not really true, cuz i know what works on me. and i know what doesn't work. i also have a large number of female friends, which many males do not have.

and men can tell me what works on them, and i have benefited from hearing their advice when dating. i think it is actually better to get advice from the opposite sex a lot of the time.


I think it's best to get perspectives from multiple sources before deciding on your course of action.

that is a fair and balanced perspective, i would agree.


_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105


hyperlexian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
Age: 53
Gender: Female
Posts: 22,023
Location: with bucephalus

04 Jul 2011, 10:50 pm

MCalavera2 wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
MCalavera2 wrote:
Most of the time, yes. Women aren't generally qualified to give proper advice to men and vice versa.

not really true, cuz i know what works on me. and i know what doesn't work. i also have a large number of female friends, which many males do not have.

and men can tell me what works on them, and i have benefited from hearing their advice when dating. i think it is actually better to get advice from the opposite sex a lot of the time.


As a woman, you can't understand on your own what makes a man happy and satisfied in his life unless you happen to think like a man yourself. And as a human being, and not a super being, you don't always realize what's really in your subconscious.

Why do women generally find confidence a very attractive trait while most men don't really care about such a trait in women? It's because both genders are different and, thus, think and operate differently. One is from Sol and the other is from Luna.

it doesn't mean i don't understand something of how men work. and they may understand something of how i work.


_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105


MXH
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,057
Location: Here i stand and face the rain

04 Jul 2011, 10:56 pm

problem is hyper, you're not the regular type of woman. And i say that in a good way. But that kinda leaves the advice of what works on you to be debatable on working with the general



hyperlexian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
Age: 53
Gender: Female
Posts: 22,023
Location: with bucephalus

04 Jul 2011, 11:00 pm

MXH wrote:
problem is hyper, you're not the regular type of woman. And i say that in a good way. But that kinda leaves the advice of what works on you to be debatable on working with the general

hahahaha erm that is almost complimentary. but i am not soooo different from other women.

my advice has gotten some people laid at some points. and also hitched. so don't knock it just cuz i'm ummm not regular!! !


_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105