Does it get easier or harder in college to find a GF?

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17 Aug 2016, 6:44 am

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The way I see it, school was my only chance to develop a relationship. That chance came and went. Now I'm just f****d for the rest of my life. If you've never been in a relationship by the time you're at University, you might as well just kill yourself. There really isn't anything to lose at that point.

It was completely different for me. I couldn't get any dates in school or when I was doing my bachelors degree and I only started to get some attention from girls during my masters. I got my first date on the first year of masters and a month after the graduation I got married. :)



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17 Aug 2016, 7:04 am

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In my experience, there is zero chance of finding a girlfriend at university. As a maths/IT student, the classes are not designed with any social mindset. It's literally just go there and do the work, in silence. Most girls there are already in relationships, for the ones that aren't there's a huge amount of competition because the ratio of men-woman is enormous. Then there's the typical behaviour that people will either cling to others they already know, or just whip out the iPhones if they're bored. You can't just meet people in those circumstances.

The way I see it, school was my only chance to develop a relationship. That chance came and went. Now I'm just f****d for the rest of my life. If you've never been in a relationship by the time you're at University, you might as well just kill yourself. There really isn't anything to lose at that point.


Well, that was quite motivational.


As Boo would motivationally say, DON'T ever approach women you are at the very least not a mutual friend with. EVER.

This would mean you should never speak to any female classmates, because it's very unlikely that would be a success. :roll:

So only try to befriend males first, who can introduce you to women (that's if they actually know any, and since aspie men tend to struggle making friends, we only tend to become friends with nerdy/geek males who can't talk to women at all in the first place).

Only try to befriend males, even if you find it easier to be friends with women.


Yes, speak to female classmates within groups.
Honestly, I did approached girls directly before and became friends with some (but no gf), but it was in lucky circumstances:
- A girl knew my brother (coworker).
- A girl friend of a girl I am already friend with.
- In hiking trip, we both had empty besides us, I said something to her (a comment about the bus), she responded in conservative way, and she asked me to sit next to her seat (this one is the closest friend now...and I know that she has a crush on me).
- Two girls who are friends of an acquaintances I know.

Some others ended up as 'friends' on fb, but they were just ghosts filling my feed and no interaction at all beyond that; that before cleaning my list.



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17 Aug 2016, 7:06 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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In my experience, there is zero chance of finding a girlfriend at university. As a maths/IT student, the classes are not designed with any social mindset. It's literally just go there and do the work, in silence. Most girls there are already in relationships, for the ones that aren't there's a huge amount of competition because the ratio of men-woman is enormous. Then there's the typical behaviour that people will either cling to others they already know, or just whip out the iPhones if they're bored. You can't just meet people in those circumstances.

The way I see it, school was my only chance to develop a relationship. That chance came and went. Now I'm just f****d for the rest of my life. If you've never been in a relationship by the time you're at University, you might as well just kill yourself. There really isn't anything to lose at that point.


Well, that was quite motivational.


Sorry to be a downer. But knowing I'll always be single has made me very sensitive in this subject. Knowing your life is over at the age of 20 makes it easy to be demotivational. I have no intention of being one of those 50 year olds who have never dated. I guess I'm not a normal person, not even a normal autistic, so my experience probably won't correlate to everyone else.

Knowing that Outrider has had girlfriends in the past, I have no doubt you'll find one at University. I just assumed you were one of those perpetually single people. Never mind me.



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17 Aug 2016, 8:05 am

I'm not as successful as I sound though.

I've had crushes on a total of about 35 girls back in high school and failed with almost all of them, but learnt and improved from each one.

Note that there is a difference between 'fail' and 'rejection'.

Sometimes I would 'fail' with her by simply being unable to ever say a word to her, or to express my feelings properly.

The majority of them, however, I did try and pursue.

Either way, if we're counting breakups, I've suffered a total of 10 'proper' rejections.

There are some online dating sites for teens, including Tinder is for teens too, I've technically had about a dozen rejections/ghostings happen to me online as well.

So make that about 22.

I was on a role last year, but I'm not sure if it was all genuinely me, or just a fluke/dumb luck. I'm definitely hoping the former.

But my first girlfriend, I'm not even sure if she felt the same way at all, she dumped me and we got back together only for her to quickly do it again.

My second, we were doing great in the first 2 weeks, but I was so paranoid and stressful because of my first girlfriend. After 3 weeks of her not getting back to me, she dumped me making the relationship a total of 1 month, 1 week.

I don't know if I self-sabotaged, if there was nothing I could have done and she just didn't feel the same anyway, if she did like me back but changed her mind, or some sort of combination of any number of things.

So don't jump to conclusions - I've never been a casanova.

Like you Sabreclaw, I significantly worry I'll be one of those 50 year old ForeverAlone types that seem so common here. I almost feel like my first two gfs never really counted. Only after 6 months would I ever consider a relationship even slightly 'genuine'.

What do you mean you're not a 'normal person' or normal Autistic? What makes you think you'll be ForeverAlone?

Face of Boo: "Yes, speak to female classmates within groups.
Honestly, I did approached girls directly before and became friends with some (but no gf), but it was in lucky circumstances"



Ignore the awkwardness and creepiness of the men approaching, but pay attention to the locations.

I'm sure all of these scenarios are just fine to approach other college women in real-life (except for the first one), even if just for making new friends.

The only problem is, like I said, Australian colleges don't HAVE campuses.

It's just buildings for classes, maybe sports facilities, parking lot and dorms.

There's no 'campus library' or other hangout spots like that.

I guess...the museum is close by and its cheap, but there's not many spots to sit so I doubt it would be a popular 'study spot' for the college students here.

There are nice green, open spaces and benches and such outside of the university buildings, but I almost never actually see any students, or even ANYONE at all.



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17 Aug 2016, 4:46 pm

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In my experience, there is zero chance of finding a girlfriend at university. As a maths/IT student, the classes are not designed with any social mindset. It's literally just go there and do the work, in silence.
The first time I did IT they were a really social bunch. There was this one girl who talked to me a lot but I was too nervous to ask her out.

That was in 2008 when most people didn't have smartphones.

The second time I did IT people just sat in silence and did their work. THere were still a few girls there. That was in 2015. Everyone in class had their face buried in a smartphone.
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The way I see it, school was my only chance to develop a relationship. That chance came and went. Now I'm just f****d for the rest of my life. If you've never been in a relationship by the time you're at University, you might as well just kill yourself. There really isn't anything to lose at that point.
Not true. School is the normal age to have your first relationship but not your last chance. I had my first relationship when I was 27. I can't be the only one right?


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17 Aug 2016, 5:05 pm

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Unfortunately since these days I prefer shyer girls and women, this may be a problem if she can't even express her feelings beyond looking/glances with a neutral face.
Dating a shy girl isn't always good. I dated a shy girl. I wanted to see her and go out with her. She wanted to stay at home by herself.
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The problem is, cell phone usage now appeals to the mainstream.
Tragedy of the commons. Cell phone usage means there's no one left for me to talk to so I browse on my cell phone, then someone else sees me and thinks there's no one left to talk to so she browses on her cell phone. Infinite loop.
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What I mean by this is, in the past the only people who were occupied by something, such as a book or newspaper or whatever, were the type of people to enjoy reading. Those that played handheld games like the Gameboy were the type of people to like video games.
Back in the days before Bejewled, portable gamers were a social bunch. When I was in school I was in an informal Game Boy club. When I was in TAFE in 2008 we played DS games. People playing portable games were quite happy to talk about said games as they played.

The trouble with people playing Candy Crush on their phones is that the same phone is also an MP3 player. With headphones on they can't even hear you. The games are so mindless that there's nothing to talk about.
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I have no idea what to expect if I were to study Nutrition.
Expect girls who have a healthy diet and exercise. Expect girls who are slim and toned. Expect more girls than guys. Now I want to study nutrition :lol:
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But thing is, I've heard the best way to meet other students at university is to join any local clubs or groups that are a part of the University, or are near the university and attract a large number of college-aged students anyway.
No wonder no one wants to go to TAFE. It doesn't have any clubs.
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I doubt there would actually be any here.

Australian schools and colleges are very boring.

They aren't like American schools that have plenty of clubs and groups for nearly everyone.
But we have pubs. Australian uni students hang out in pubs near campus.
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Most Australian Universities may have dorms, but there's no streets or anything - just footpaths to the other buildings and the parking lot.
I've been in several Australian universities that have streets and coffee outlets. The culinary school runs it's own restaurant too.
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There are only a few of those here, mainly the biggest ones.
Then go to one of those ones. Perhaps there's one like that in Brisbane.
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Either way, I'd be living off-campus even if there are dorms at this one, but unfortunately I've heard living off-campus makes building a social life even harder as it is much less personal than living in a dorm with others.
Don't worry. Everyone in Australia lives off-campus. Our dorms are mostly for international students.

This isn't like America where every student has to live in a dorm for some reason.


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17 Aug 2016, 5:07 pm

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Sorry to be a downer. But knowing I'll always be single has made me very sensitive in this subject. Knowing your life is over at the age of 20 makes it easy to be demotivational.
If you think your life is over at 20 just wait 'till you turn 25. Then you'll really be depressed.


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17 Aug 2016, 5:08 pm

You'd be surprised how many Americans actually commute to college from their homes.



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17 Aug 2016, 5:09 pm

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You'd be surprised how many Americans actually commute to college from their homes.
I stand corrected :)
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It's probably easier to find dates/relationships with your colleagues at work (especially if the person doesn't work in your department, and doesn't work directly with you).
How do I do that?

How do I get to know girls from other departments?

How do I determine if they're single?


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17 Aug 2016, 5:13 pm

I don't know the layout of your office; how should I know?

Does your company have a cafeteria? Does your company encourage a "corporate culture?" This might be a way to meet people in other departments.

As it stands now, your own department seems to be mostly men.



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17 Aug 2016, 5:16 pm

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I don't know the layout of your office; how should I know?
I mean on general principles :lol:
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Does your company have a cafeteria?
No.
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Does your company encourage a "corporate culture?"
My company thinks the term "corporate culture" refers to a set of rules and regulations.
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As it stands now, your own department seems to be mostly men.
Yes but there are lots of women on my floor. All of them middle aged :(


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17 Aug 2016, 5:35 pm

Let me tell you something...and I know this from experience.

Middle-aged women can be THE BOMB in bed!



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17 Aug 2016, 5:39 pm

^ Videos or it didn't happen.



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17 Aug 2016, 5:42 pm

You're funny!

If I was a single young guy----and an attractive middle-aged women took a fancy to me--I'd go for her.

It's nothing to be ashamed of, really. These ladies are really elegant sometimes.

I was young once....and I was fortunate enough to have the experience. A great education!



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17 Aug 2016, 5:56 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
Sorry to be a downer. But knowing I'll always be single has made me very sensitive in this subject. Knowing your life is over at the age of 20 makes it easy to be demotivational.
If you think your life is over at 20 just wait 'till you turn 25. Then you'll really be depressed.


I'll still be single at 25 and I already am really depressed, so thanks for the condescension, but it's not required.



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17 Aug 2016, 6:10 pm

You just gotta start using your Sabreclaw proclivities!