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01 Dec 2010, 11:15 pm

well who should go first then? in your opinion



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01 Dec 2010, 11:16 pm

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I just think the women on here are hyper-sensitive and take things personally...when we're not even talking about Aspie women, or most NT women.


I can't speak for everyone, but it's your view of women as a group that I have issues with.

I don't care if I'm not the one personally attacked, but when someone treats another person like dirt I always have this weird urge punch him/her/it in the face.


It is NOT only the guys here who are sexist. Some of the women on WP seem very sexist towards Aspie men on some post in this section as well as the adult section


I don't blame them

But the more they accuse Aspie guys of being sexist; the more sexist it makes the women look. New male members joining this forum may see those hatefull post about Aspie guys that were made by women & the guys will think that the Aspie women are sexist & those members may start arguing with em & the vicious cycle continues. Accusing each other of being sexist will NOT help anything.

there are anti-male posts? i don't remember ever seeing a woman on WP ever say that men are all _____ (jerks, a**holes, shallow, etc.). but i see lots of posts of men saying these kinds of thing about women, and women have a reason and a right to speak up about it. it isn't sexist to defend your gender.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:18 pm

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well who should go first then? in your opinion

We should do it together. If we can learn to get along here; perhaps us men & the women here might could get better advice & mabye even date each other instead of complaining about how neither one of em can get dates.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:22 pm

thats not gonna happen lol

and women here rarely seem to have problems getting dates (I guess they mature faster, and generally are more aware of the world and social rules then AS men are)



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01 Dec 2010, 11:23 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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I just think the women on here are hyper-sensitive and take things personally...when we're not even talking about Aspie women, or most NT women.


I can't speak for everyone, but it's your view of women as a group that I have issues with.

I don't care if I'm not the one personally attacked, but when someone treats another person like dirt I always have this weird urge punch him/her/it in the face.


It is NOT only the guys here who are sexist. Some of the women on WP seem very sexist towards Aspie men on some post in this section as well as the adult section


I don't blame them

But the more they accuse Aspie guys of being sexist; the more sexist it makes the women look. New male members joining this forum may see those hatefull post about Aspie guys that were made by women & the guys will think that the Aspie women are sexist & those members may start arguing with em & the vicious cycle continues. Accusing each other of being sexist will NOT help anything.

there are anti-male posts? i don't remember ever seeing a woman on WP ever say that men are all _____ (jerks, a**holes, shallow, etc.). but i see lots of posts of men saying these kinds of thing about women, and women have a reason and a right to speak up about it. it isn't sexist to defend your gender.

They were some in some replies. I'm NOT going to debate this anymore. I'm tired of arguing about who's rite & who's wrong. If you guys want to keep arguing; go for it


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01 Dec 2010, 11:23 pm

you're wrong



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01 Dec 2010, 11:27 pm

nick007 wrote:
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well its hardly the women's fault here
I'm on their side because they didn't make these men sexist
you can't blame them for disliking people, and you can't expect them to just take the sexist sh** and turn a blind eye because "ooh some might see it, blah blah blah"
not how life works

This is NOT about sides & who is sexist & who isn't. Both the men & women here are sexist. Playing the blame game about who is more sexist will only make the fighting worse. Both the men & the women here need to start trying to get along

really? i seem to recall that i give a massive amount of advice to both female and male posters in this forum. i am not encouraging a divide - i want for everyone to be happy and successful in their relationships.

but men cannot put women down and expect that i'm going to stay quiet about it. (the reverse is true too - on those extremely rare occasions when i felt a woman was being unfair to a man, i said so). this forum is not the personal bashing-grounds for people to trash an entire gender.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:29 pm

against_the_clock wrote:
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Well, sure Kilroy, the men of this forum need a hobby, and they have one: Posting their sexist crap. If you don't like their hobby, don't partake in it. The bottom line is, the simple act of you telling them isn't going to help them get a hobby.


I have to say something for tough love though. Telling them that it is sexist and it is crap (where applicable) may help them understand why they are not getting women. The problem is women (or anyone else) won't tell you exactly what you did wrong socially so you can learn, which is why aspie's have so much trouble. For some guys it may be simply whining too much (something I have been guilty of :oops: ) But I would direct my criticisms to specific threads.


Read the archives - these guys were explained hundreds of times what they did wrong and were given sound advice, but as Kilroy said they "constantly "ask for advice" and spit in people's faces".

They were told exactly (by both women and more experienced men) what they can do to improve their chances and they say they shouldn't be forced to change in order to be accepted. Many repeatedly say women owe them sex and have no right to reject them and that society is responsible to provide them with a partner and friends. They also have no hesitation to give idiotic advice and make all sort of ugly generalisations about what women are or want while having no or almost no experience with them.

If someone shares a positive story will get viciously attacked for "rubbing it in" or will be accused of lying, not having AS or being ugly.

The same people who swear are not sexist pretend people should go to jail for rejecting them, say women are guilty for what Sodini did ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Colli ... p_shooting ) or just go on a rampage and admit all they want is a "bullpen of women" - one for every occasion.

So sorry, Kilroy is dead right.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:34 pm

I mean lord knows how much hate poor Erisad got when she was just happy things were going nicely for her and the fact she had a boyfriend
a nice person who didn't do anything wrong, but be happy was flamed by all sorts of guys for "rubbing it in" and they feel like they have a right to do that
its sad, and I am glad happy people haven't been totally weeded out



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01 Dec 2010, 11:34 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
nick007 wrote:
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well its hardly the women's fault here
I'm on their side because they didn't make these men sexist
you can't blame them for disliking people, and you can't expect them to just take the sexist sh** and turn a blind eye because "ooh some might see it, blah blah blah"
not how life works

This is NOT about sides & who is sexist & who isn't. Both the men & women here are sexist. Playing the blame game about who is more sexist will only make the fighting worse. Both the men & the women here need to start trying to get along

really? i seem to recall that i give a massive amount of advice to both female and male posters in this forum. i am not encouraging a divide - i want for everyone to be happy and successful in their relationships.

but men cannot put women down and expect that i'm going to stay quiet about it. (the reverse is true too - on those extremely rare occasions when i felt a woman was being unfair to a man, i said so). this forum is not the personal bashing-grounds for people to trash an entire gender.

I understand what you are saying but I was NOT referring to you. We're kewl OK


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01 Dec 2010, 11:39 pm

nick007 wrote:
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well its hardly the women's fault here
I'm on their side because they didn't make these men sexist
you can't blame them for disliking people, and you can't expect them to just take the sexist sh** and turn a blind eye because "ooh some might see it, blah blah blah"
not how life works

This is NOT about sides & who is sexist & who isn't. Both the men & women here are sexist. Playing the blame game about who is more sexist will only make the fighting worse. Both the men & the women here need to start trying to get along

really? i seem to recall that i give a massive amount of advice to both female and male posters in this forum. i am not encouraging a divide - i want for everyone to be happy and successful in their relationships.

but men cannot put women down and expect that i'm going to stay quiet about it. (the reverse is true too - on those extremely rare occasions when i felt a woman was being unfair to a man, i said so). this forum is not the personal bashing-grounds for people to trash an entire gender.

I understand what you are saying but I was NOT referring to you. We're kewl OK

ok.

i have been called a man-hater on here, so i figured you were talking about me.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:40 pm

Its really easy to say "If you don't like their hobby don't partake in it", this place doesn't have an ignore list any more, it used to and it was a shame it was taken away.

Are you saying the rest of us should have to post less because the sexist whiners want to whine? I really want the ignore list back, theres at least 10 people I want to put on it.



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01 Dec 2010, 11:40 pm

Sallamandria, I hope you aren't grouping me with those guys. Yes, I said some horrible things as ForeverYoung, but I was in a bad place temporarily and my hormones were getting the best of me. I came back the next day after I was banned and apologized sincerely.

I also feel my advice isn't sexist at all. Saying that most NT women at the very least want a guy who is social (if he's not her physical type) isn't a generalization or a slam on women. And saying that a guy that is below average in looks and awkward on top of it should lower his standards isn't a slam on pretty women or doesn't make pretty women shallow. What's so bad about saying you can get away with sub-par looks if you have a Kevin James type personality to make up for it? If anything, that's saying that women are less visual than men.

I also am no longer bitter that I can't get easy sex. My hormones were out of control. The real me doesn't even care about not getting sex...sex scares me as a matter of fact. With my ex, if she had wanted to go all the way before we broke up, I probably would have felt like I was defiling her. My main reason for wanting sex was to have it and hopefully find it overrated so I could move on with my life.

My advice as NilesCrane is to address certain men on this forum who I won't name that have that "hot girl fantasy" or want no-strings attached sex (the way I used to think I wanted) simply because they think "it's owed to them."



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01 Dec 2010, 11:43 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Its really easy to say "If you don't like their hobby don't partake in it", this place doesn't have an ignore list any more, it used to and it was a shame it was taken away.

Are you saying the rest of us should have to post less because the sexist whiners want to whine? I really want the ignore list back, theres at least 10 people I want to put on it.


as I said-they're everywhere and posting...everywhere
and yes I miss ignore, there is more then 10 I wanna ignore lol



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01 Dec 2010, 11:48 pm

nilescrane, the fact that you keep misspelling my nick speaks volumes, either if it's intentional or not. Otherwise, this is the internet and all we have to represent ourselves is our posts. Your 3 accounts speak for you - Verba volant, scripta manent.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:50 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
nick007 wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
nick007 wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
well its hardly the women's fault here
I'm on their side because they didn't make these men sexist
you can't blame them for disliking people, and you can't expect them to just take the sexist sh** and turn a blind eye because "ooh some might see it, blah blah blah"
not how life works

This is NOT about sides & who is sexist & who isn't. Both the men & women here are sexist. Playing the blame game about who is more sexist will only make the fighting worse. Both the men & the women here need to start trying to get along

really? i seem to recall that i give a massive amount of advice to both female and male posters in this forum. i am not encouraging a divide - i want for everyone to be happy and successful in their relationships.

but men cannot put women down and expect that i'm going to stay quiet about it. (the reverse is true too - on those extremely rare occasions when i felt a woman was being unfair to a man, i said so). this forum is not the personal bashing-grounds for people to trash an entire gender.

I understand what you are saying but I was NOT referring to you. We're kewl OK

ok.

i have been called a man-hater on here, so i figured you were talking about me.

I understand & I'm sorry that you thought I was talking about you. I've been called a misogynist more than a few times in this section & couple times in other section but I've gotten some PMs from a couple members here that were much worse.
I think part of my problem is that I word things the wrong way lots of times.I'm going to try & let this drop now


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