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10 Feb 2011, 2:11 am

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... on the next Maury: Men who sleep with their girlfriend's sister after she cheats on him and refuses to marry him in a big public proposal.


now your just making me sound trashy. class it up a bit like geraldo someone credible



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10 Feb 2011, 6:39 am

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... on the next Maury: Men who sleep with their girlfriend's sister after she cheats on him and refuses to marry him in a big public proposal.


now your just making me sound trashy. class it up a bit like geraldo someone credible


Sorry! :oops: I still have a soft spot in my heart for Maury because he's married to someone credible and accomplished in journalism. :wink:



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10 Feb 2011, 6:47 am

its all good



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12 Feb 2011, 12:58 am

haha well if thats the case you are SCREWED haha sorry bud that is bad if that happened


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12 Feb 2011, 2:40 pm

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I'm not looking for your philosophy on why rich people do what they do. Stay on topic.


Its not a philosophy nor an opinion, its a fact...and very relevant to the discussion. :)



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12 Feb 2011, 3:28 pm

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actually had this happen to me last month i proposed to my girlfriend and she told me no, didnt find out til later its because she cheated on me that she said no, so i went and had sex with her sister. i could have handled it better but at the time it seemed like a good idea
dude i would have done the same thing i think that if you say no for any reason besides infaithfulness and they dont want to live with the guilt through the marriage only to get a divorce i think they SUCK but to admit you dont want to get married because you were unfaithfull then you are smart


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19 Feb 2011, 2:37 am

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Biokinetica wrote:
I'm not looking for your philosophy on why rich people do what they do. Stay on topic.


Its not a philosophy nor an opinion, its a fact...and very relevant to the discussion. :)


I suggest that we drop Maury and Geraldo both for Jerry Springer. That way, we can all chant "Jerry, Jerry" and "take it off, take it off" and "put it on, put it on." Oh, better yet, take it to Judge Judy. I didn't know the factoid about why rich folk used to do public proposals. It doesn't surprise me, though. I got my wedding for under a thousand dollars, which included my nails and my mom's and cousin's hairstyle and haircut and all the paperwork. And the rings, which weren't cheap. My dress was $32. My sister's dress was $65! Her husband's shirt cost more than my groom's shirt. We had a dinner and served chicken, beef roast and spam. It rocked. Very small, family and very close friends. We were alone when he proposed. Personally, I think that's the way it ought to be done. I think outrageously expensive and lavish weddings are wasteful, stressful, and thoroughly beautiful. I've been to a few. One was set up in a botanical gardens. We blew bubbles instead of throwing birdseed. Full dinner, open bar, tiny bottles of perfume and aftershave.



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19 Apr 2011, 12:07 pm

mightypen515 wrote:
Dantac wrote:
Biokinetica wrote:
I'm not looking for your philosophy on why rich people do what they do. Stay on topic.


Its not a philosophy nor an opinion, its a fact...and very relevant to the discussion. :)


I suggest that we drop Maury and Geraldo both for Jerry Springer. That way, we can all chant "Jerry, Jerry" and "take it off, take it off" and "put it on, put it on." Oh, better yet, take it to Judge Judy. I didn't know the factoid about why rich folk used to do public proposals. It doesn't surprise me, though. I got my wedding for under a thousand dollars, which included my nails and my mom's and cousin's hairstyle and haircut and all the paperwork. And the rings, which weren't cheap. My dress was $32. My sister's dress was $65! Her husband's shirt cost more than my groom's shirt. We had a dinner and served chicken, beef roast and spam. It rocked. Very small, family and very close friends. We were alone when he proposed. Personally, I think that's the way it ought to be done. I think outrageously expensive and lavish weddings are wasteful, stressful, and thoroughly beautiful. I've been to a few. One was set up in a botanical gardens. We blew bubbles instead of throwing birdseed. Full dinner, open bar, tiny bottles of perfume and aftershave.


well i think that we should be yelling out jerry in a happy as hell way as if we were gonna see some stripper take off her clothing haha i think it would be funny as hell but in all seriousness i think that she was an idiot and if you still love her i got two words "SHE CHEATED!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!"


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19 Apr 2011, 4:49 pm

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Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.


It's polite to lie like that? Really? By whose rules? I would think something like "I can't give you an answer right now--can we talk in private?" would be a more acceptable way of turning a man down than lying to him publicly like that. Or do I place too much value on honesty?


It'd be too much pressure for me to let so many people down. Most of them won't care about whether or not the guy gets the girl after the moment they're involved. They just want to see a "Yes". So, yeah, give people what they want and then have a discussion with the guy later, adding in an explanation on why such a proposal is really inappropriate.

Or, you know, say "No way!" and have choirs of people, onlookers and everyone else around absolutely hate you for being a b****... because that's how that turns out.


The sheer hypocrisy of some of the women on this forum never ceases to amaze.

Any guy proposing to his girlfriend should not do it in public place and put her in that position to start with, it should be a private matter. But giving a fake yes to someone just because it's what onlookers 'want to hear', then telling him afterwards she didn't really mean it? I'm sorry but that is spineless and pathetic to say the least.

If the roles were reversed and a guy did that to a girl, you'd be calling him a scumbag.


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19 Apr 2011, 4:53 pm

Does Marriage ever work anymore?

I'd say live each other for at least 10 years to see if you two are meant to be....but I can't see myself marrying anyone....it just doesn't make sense to me to spend £5000 just to say that you are spiritually tied....Religious stuff like that should be free....maybe not the clothes or food or hiring a venue but you get the point.

I hope guys do it more though so I can go. :lol:


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20 Apr 2011, 5:34 am

They'd better be a REALLY good reason for turning down a proposal after a (presumably) significantly long-term relationship.



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20 Apr 2011, 5:43 am

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Does Marriage ever work anymore?

I'd say live each other for at least 10 years to see if you two are meant to be....but I can't see myself marrying anyone....it just doesn't make sense to me to spend £5000 just to say that you are spiritually tied....Religious stuff like that should be free....maybe not the clothes or food or hiring a venue but you get the point.

I hope guys do it more though so I can go. :lol:


That's a debatable question although I do think Marriage in general would be a lot more successful if it wasn't so easy to get Divorced these days.

Even though I'm a Spiritualist leaning towards Paganism, I believe that marriage should be for life.

In terms of the actual day itself, it's worth spending the money providing if both participants value it that much and both get exactly what they want from it, remember it's the groom's day as much as the brides.

In the fantasy world that is my mind, this is the place I would like to eventually get married one day.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:24 am

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The sheer hypocrisy of some of the women on this forum never ceases to amaze.

Any guy proposing to his girlfriend should not do it in public place and put her in that position to start with, it should be a private matter. But giving a fake yes to someone just because it's what onlookers 'want to hear', then telling him afterwards she didn't really mean it? I'm sorry but that is spineless and pathetic to say the least.

If the roles were reversed and a guy did that to a girl, you'd be calling him a scumbag.


Pulling the emotional version of a bait-and-switch cause you're overly-concerned with what other people think is a gender issue...how?


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20 Apr 2011, 7:26 am

Daemonic-Jackal wrote:

That's a debatable question although I do think Marriage in general would be a lot more successful if it wasn't so easy to get Divorced these days.

Even though I'm a Spiritualist leaning towards Paganism, I believe that marriage should be for life.


I'm an atheist and I totally agree. If infidelity or abuse were the only legal allowances for divorce, people would take it a hell of a lot more seriously.


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20 Apr 2011, 8:10 am

Bethie wrote:
Daemonic-Jackal wrote:
The sheer hypocrisy of some of the women on this forum never ceases to amaze.

Any guy proposing to his girlfriend should not do it in public place and put her in that position to start with, it should be a private matter. But giving a fake yes to someone just because it's what onlookers 'want to hear', then telling him afterwards she didn't really mean it? I'm sorry but that is spineless and pathetic to say the least.

If the roles were reversed and a guy did that to a girl, you'd be calling him a scumbag.


Pulling the emotional version of a bait-and-switch cause you're overly-concerned with what other people think is a gender issue...how?


Because the women in question (not all women but the ones who would use that tactic) who would do that often think it's one rule for men and another rule for themselves. It's one of the reasons why both genders will never fully see eye to eye because too many people are completely blind to their own double standards.

Maybe I'm seeing this in too much of a black and white perspective but anyone who would do that to their significant other is being beyond selfish in my opinion.

What would you do if your partner proposed to you in a public place, others were onlooking and you wanted to turn him down? Would you be honest and say 'I can't' (or something similar to that) or would you bottle it and say yes just because you were worried what everyone else would think?


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21 Apr 2011, 2:11 am

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It'd be too much pressure for me to let so many people down. Most of them won't care about whether or not the guy gets the girl after the moment they're involved. They just want to see a "Yes". So, yeah, give people what they want and then have a discussion with the guy later, adding in an explanation on why such a proposal is really inappropriate.

Or, you know, say "No way!" and have choirs of people, onlookers and everyone else around absolutely hate you for being a b****... because that's how that turns out.
Give a crowd of strangers what they want, but don't give the man an honest answer without humiliating him? Wtf?


You can't really give honest answer without humiliation in that kind of public show situation proposal, "No" or "I need to think about it" would feel humiliating to the proposer no matter how you gave your no/need time -answer.