I don't want to date pretty girls.

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The_Face_of_Boo
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19 Mar 2011, 4:49 am

Asp-Z wrote:
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pretty is subjective.

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^ to some degree, but not much.


Incorrect - it is very subjective.


Not true at all.

Just a simple example: all guys in the "The most attractive woman on OKC LB Dating" agreed that the girl there is pretty, and all girls agreed that the guy in 'The most attractive man on NZ Dating" is handsome.

The "Beauty in the eye of the beholder" was created so the non-pretty people can feel better but it is not true at all, we humans have common brain wiring that make us recognize beauty similarly.

True, some people might think that Celeb x is hotter than Celeb y while others think the other way around , but in general they would both agree that both x and y are hot.

Pretty is a common consensus.


Who cares that one group of people thought a certain person was the most attractive? Ask another group of people and you'll probably get a different answer.

A lot of these models who are meant to be all pretty are extremely ugly in my opinion. I have a different idea of beauty from that. It is a very subjective thing - in the same way that everyone has their own taste in food, everyone has their own taste in women/men too.


If you are referring to the runway models, I know plenty of guys who don't find them attractive. Most guys like curvy girls.

hale hit the nail on the head with the bell curve thing.

Do you know any guy who finds Monica Bellucci ugly for instance?



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19 Mar 2011, 4:53 am

Again, there's no one person or type of people who everyone can unanimously agree is attractive. It's impossible.

I just Googled this Monica Bellucci person and all I can say is "meh."



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19 Mar 2011, 4:55 am

"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*

or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.



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19 Mar 2011, 4:55 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
emlion wrote:
pretty is subjective.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ to some degree, but not much.


Incorrect - it is very subjective.


Not true at all.

Just a simple example: all guys in the "The most attractive woman on OKC LB Dating" agreed that the girl there is pretty, and all girls agreed that the guy in 'The most attractive man on NZ Dating" is handsome.

The "Beauty in the eye of the beholder" was created so the non-pretty people can feel better but it is not true at all, we humans have common brain wiring that make us recognize beauty similarly.

True, some people might think that Celeb x is hotter than Celeb y while others think the other way around , but in general they would both agree that both x and y are hot.

Pretty is a common consensus.


Who cares that one group of people thought a certain person was the most attractive? Ask another group of people and you'll probably get a different answer.

A lot of these models who are meant to be all pretty are extremely ugly in my opinion. I have a different idea of beauty from that. It is a very subjective thing - in the same way that everyone has their own taste in food, everyone has their own taste in women/men too.


If you are referring to the runway models, I know plenty of guys who don't find them attractive. Most guys like curvy girls.

hale hit the nail on the head with the bell curve thing.

Do you know any guy who finds Monica Bellucci ugly for instance?


She'd look better without the cheek implants.



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19 Mar 2011, 4:56 am

hale_bopp wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
emlion wrote:
pretty is subjective.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ to some degree, but not much.


Incorrect - it is very subjective.


Not true at all.

Just a simple example: all guys in the "The most attractive woman on OKC LB Dating" agreed that the girl there is pretty, and all girls agreed that the guy in 'The most attractive man on NZ Dating" is handsome.

The "Beauty in the eye of the beholder" was created so the non-pretty people can feel better but it is not true at all, we humans have common brain wiring that make us recognize beauty similarly.

True, some people might think that Celeb x is hotter than Celeb y while others think the other way around , but in general they would both agree that both x and y are hot.

Pretty is a common consensus.


Who cares that one group of people thought a certain person was the most attractive? Ask another group of people and you'll probably get a different answer.

A lot of these models who are meant to be all pretty are extremely ugly in my opinion. I have a different idea of beauty from that. It is a very subjective thing - in the same way that everyone has their own taste in food, everyone has their own taste in women/men too.


If you are referring to the runway models, I know plenty of guys who don't find them attractive. Most guys like curvy girls.

hale hit the nail on the head with the bell curve thing.

Do you know any guy who finds Monica Bellucci ugly for instance?


She'd look better without the cheek implants.


I agree.



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19 Mar 2011, 4:56 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*

or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.


He's still missing the point. Noone said everyone is going to find an attractive person attractive.



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19 Mar 2011, 4:57 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*


I already have, but again, it's all subjective.

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or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.


Meaning what?



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19 Mar 2011, 4:58 am

Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*


I already have, but again, it's all subjective.

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or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.


Meaning what?


Meaning you are one of the few people in the world who can't for the life of them see how some people would find that woman appealing.



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19 Mar 2011, 4:59 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*


I already have, but again, it's all subjective.

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or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.


Meaning what?


Meaning you are one of the few people in the world who can't for the life of them see how some people would find that woman appealing.


Well exactly, which kinda proves my point that beauty is subjective. There are people who don't find that woman attractive and people who do. Same with anyone.



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19 Mar 2011, 5:01 am

Asp-Z wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*


I already have, but again, it's all subjective.

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or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.


Meaning what?


Meaning you are one of the few people in the world who can't for the life of them see how some people would find that woman appealing.


Well exactly, which kinda proves my point that beauty is subjective. There are people who don't find that woman attractive and people who do. Same with anyone.


Yea, but a majority would find her attractive while a small minority wouldn't.



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19 Mar 2011, 5:04 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*


I already have, but again, it's all subjective.

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or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.


Meaning what?


Meaning you are one of the few people in the world who can't for the life of them see how some people would find that woman appealing.


Well exactly, which kinda proves my point that beauty is subjective. There are people who don't find that woman attractive and people who do. Same with anyone.


Yea, but a majority would find her attractive while a small minority wouldn't.


Doesn't matter. Just means a lot of people happen to have a certain taste.



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19 Mar 2011, 5:38 am

Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*


I already have, but again, it's all subjective.

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or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.


Meaning what?


Meaning you are one of the few people in the world who can't for the life of them see how some people would find that woman appealing.


Well exactly, which kinda proves my point that beauty is subjective. There are people who don't find that woman attractive and people who do. Same with anyone.


Yea, but a majority would find her attractive while a small minority wouldn't.


Doesn't matter. Just means a lot of people happen to have a certain taste.


Well as stated about 3 times, we are talking about the majority here, not everyone.



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19 Mar 2011, 6:39 am

Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
"meh"..... right , because you can get someone way hotter *nodding head*


I already have, but again, it's all subjective.

Quote:
or maybe you're just at the edge of the bell curve.


Meaning what?


Meaning you are one of the few people in the world who can't for the life of them see how some people would find that woman appealing.


Well exactly, which kinda proves my point that beauty is subjective. There are people who don't find that woman attractive and people who do. Same with anyone.


Yea, but a majority would find her attractive while a small minority wouldn't.


Doesn't matter. Just means a lot of people happen to have a certain taste.


While there is nobody who will appeal to everybody, there really is an evolutionary reason why some people are regarded as "good looking" to a large proportion of people who look. It isn't just random. It is found that a certain regularity and evenness of features combined with no physical evidence of past or recent illness is called "good looking". In other words, people who have visible evidence of a strong immune system and not even a trace of any genetic syndromes (which often mar looks) are called good looking.

Lots of cultural baggage will be heaped on that so that good looking people from one culture or time will be less so in another culture or time. But health, including genetic health, remains a commonality.



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20 Mar 2011, 2:50 am

Again, it's about tastes. Yes, there are some that are more common than others, so the majority will end up liking a certain thing (because humans are sheep like that), but that doesn't negate the fact that the taste of the majority isn't the only taste out there.

If your only point is that the majority have a certain taste, then yeah, you're right. Of course you are. And back to the food analogy, most people like McDonald's. So what? Other people people still have different tastes to the majority.



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20 Mar 2011, 4:28 am

Jesus. Noone said it was the only taste out there.

You keep pulling new arguments out of your arse when no-one's even talking about them.



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20 Mar 2011, 4:30 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Jesus. Noone said it was the only taste out there.

You keep pulling new arguments out of your arse when no-one's even talking about them.


But if you agree that everyone has different tastes, how can you disagree that beauty is subjective? Your argument makes no sense.