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22 Jun 2011, 4:20 pm

I suppose the other point is - if you're seeing a lady, how can you stop her from blabbing out to every single person within a twenty-mile radius? A lot of us guys would love a shag but we don't want relatives finding out about it. ;)



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22 Jun 2011, 4:25 pm

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22 Jun 2011, 4:26 pm

I really must take objection to this ideal of NT v AS is some kind of hermetically sealed diagnosis. People are people, and share different traits. We mix and match - in many ways, we're all a combination of everything else to an extent. Just that some people suffer from the disabling factors of it more than most, is all.



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22 Jun 2011, 4:28 pm

Tequila wrote:
I really must take objection to this ideal of NT v AS is some kind of hermetically sealed diagnosis. People are people, and share different traits. We mix and match - in many ways, we're all a combination of everything else to an extent. Just that some people suffer from the disabling factors of it more than most, is all.

and i agree on this thread too! you're on a roll! :cheers:


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22 Jun 2011, 4:31 pm

Tequila wrote:
I really must take objection to this ideal of NT v AS is some kind of hermetically sealed diagnosis. People are people, and share different traits. We mix and match - in many ways, we're all a combination of everything else to an extent. Just that some people suffer from the disabling factors of it more than most, is all.


Noted, however it cannot be discounted that the number of posts of wives and girlfriends who claim their husbands or boyfriends have AS and take issue with it far out number any posts from husbands and boyfriends claiming the same of their wives or girlfriends.



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22 Jun 2011, 4:36 pm

Chronos wrote:
Tequila wrote:
I really must take objection to this ideal of NT v AS is some kind of hermetically sealed diagnosis. People are people, and share different traits. We mix and match - in many ways, we're all a combination of everything else to an extent. Just that some people suffer from the disabling factors of it more than most, is all.


Noted, however it cannot be discounted that the number of posts of wives and girlfriends who claim their husbands or boyfriends have AS and take issue with it far out number any posts from husbands and boyfriends claiming the same of their wives or girlfriends.


I lust your objectivity.



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22 Jun 2011, 4:37 pm

What we really need to stop indulging in is the MOPE (Most Oppressed People Ever) factor. We're not; and, as I said a lot of the (non-predatory) people that would be attracted to us must have had some sort of spark in there in the first place, otherwise they'd have just discarded us.

That said, it's not all about us. There are two people in a relationship and I'd want it so that I was absolutely sure what I'd get into.

Otherwise, I'd reject it.



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22 Jun 2011, 4:39 pm

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Noted, however it cannot be discounted that the number of posts of wives and girlfriends who claim their husbands or boyfriends have AS and take issue with it.


Fair enough; that said, if the man/boyfriend was entirely open with them right from the very start and explored their autistic (and other) traits with them before entering the relationship they can't really be blamed for following through and displaying them as they said they would, can they?

What mystifies me is what these women really expect from a partner.



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22 Jun 2011, 4:40 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
Tequila wrote:
I really must take objection to this ideal of NT v AS is some kind of hermetically sealed diagnosis. People are people, and share different traits. We mix and match - in many ways, we're all a combination of everything else to an extent. Just that some people suffer from the disabling factors of it more than most, is all.


Noted, however it cannot be discounted that the number of posts of wives and girlfriends who claim their husbands or boyfriends have AS and take issue with it far out number any posts from husbands and boyfriends claiming the same of their wives or girlfriends.


I lust your objectivity.


Thank you.

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22 Jun 2011, 4:45 pm

Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
Tequila wrote:
I really must take objection to this ideal of NT v AS is some kind of hermetically sealed diagnosis. People are people, and share different traits. We mix and match - in many ways, we're all a combination of everything else to an extent. Just that some people suffer from the disabling factors of it more than most, is all.


Noted, however it cannot be discounted that the number of posts of wives and girlfriends who claim their husbands or boyfriends have AS and take issue with it far out number any posts from husbands and boyfriends claiming the same of their wives or girlfriends.


I lust your objectivity.


Thank you.

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I learn from the best too.....



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22 Jun 2011, 5:18 pm

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my ex wrote a number of complaining threads about me on this forum.

I expect though in general the trend is caused by men not likeing to share their problems, i think they would be less likely to ask for help (as in not asking for directions lol) and to not like talking about emotions/feelings.


I'd say the "never complain, suck it in" mindset still has some currency among men in Western European nations. [1]

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Men have better things to worry about.

Who cares if the wife is too quiet. As long as she's loyal and she cooks good food and she gives good sex, that's all it matters.


3/10 on the troll scale. Nice effort but pick a less obvious venue next time :D

[1] My troll of the day: in Eastern Asian nations, men absolutely don't complain to the public about their problems, unless they're the metrosexual androgynous kind, who instead end up getting record contracts singing about their problems in public for about 6 months.



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23 Jun 2011, 8:42 am

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I would just be happy to have a partner, even if they tried to kill me. And I'm gosh-darn respectful; I don't understand this 'wife = sandwiches & kitchen' nonsense.


Amen, Brother! :D



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23 Jun 2011, 8:59 am

Honestly, a lot of the women complaining 'diagnosed' their boyfriend or spouse themselves. People see what they want to see/what they choose to see and I find most of these 'diagnoses' suspect.

I really think that "it's not my fault, he's an Aspie' is the new 'it's not my fault, he's just a closeted homosexual'. A large number of the women complaining are just looking to point a finger and receive sympathy. 'Diagnosing' their SO is just the new way to do that...



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23 Jun 2011, 9:00 am

Could part of it be the "Extreme Male Brain" theory of it all? If you're a man and your mate thinks like you, more or less, isn't that a good thing? Versus NT woman who have an AS man who not only doesn't think like her but doesn't have the capability of doing so, ever?



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23 Jun 2011, 2:06 pm

K-R-X wrote:
Honestly, a lot of the women complaining 'diagnosed' their boyfriend or spouse themselves. People see what they want to see/what they choose to see and I find most of these 'diagnoses' suspect.

I really think that "it's not my fault, he's an Aspie' is the new 'it's not my fault, he's just a closeted homosexual'. A large number of the women complaining are just looking to point a finger and receive sympathy. 'Diagnosing' their SO is just the new way to do that...


Perhaps some of them do have AS, and perhaps the spouses are not unreasonably sympathetic to that, however sometimes I get the impression they are just looking for a reason to justify the fact that their spouses or partners treat them poorly. In other words, sometimes these women are just co-dependent.

Or sometimes I feel they marry or start sating these men, knowing their limitations with respect to the NT world yet ignoring them, not because they actually accept them, but because they think it's a minor thing they are going to do away with after the marriage, and then they get upset when they find some of these limitations they can't change.

I think men just wouldn't marry a woman with the notion of correcting he behavior later in mind, and for the ones who do marry women with AS, and are not happy in a relationship because of it, I think they are more likely to turn their attention away from their marriage, rather than towards it. I think they are more likely to stay in the marriage, and have an affair rather than discuss their unhappiness.

To conclude, I think in situations such as this, women turn their attention towards their spous and men turn their attention away from them.



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23 Jun 2011, 2:17 pm

^ We men are cooler, you are cool too, like men (/just trolling XD)