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07 Sep 2011, 3:47 pm

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A) He spent 8 minutes whining on video. I think that's honestly sad. Sure, he's frustrated but he also seems a little entitled. He needs to turn over his birth certificate and read the list of things he was promised in life.
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"Shaming tactic #4: If he complains once then he's a whiner" :P
"Shaming tactic #5 : he's alone because he's a whiner" :P

But he might be whiner, he does seem to have other videos...

but I do agree with him that those advice are vague and total BS, they're just cliché advices because people either have no idea what to say or can't be honest enough.



One video or fifty, these are his honest beliefs and he's put some thought into them. He's unhappy with the system. That's understandable. It's just unproductive. He won't be on the design committee for the next system either.

The advice he references before entertaining his wider points *is* at worst unusual (#1: get in touch with your inner self), or at best incomplete (#2: have confidence). But I don't see malice behind incomplete advice. People, through inexperience or a lack of interest, may sometimes trivialize the extent of the problems that some other people face but that's not shaming. The use of that word tells me something about where his head is at.



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07 Sep 2011, 3:56 pm

I'm sure making that video got him oodles of girlfriends


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07 Sep 2011, 3:56 pm

This post may contain exceptionally sexist content, as it is all about...

Manipulating Women

DISCLAIMER: This is not about ALL women, just those predatory ones that seem to be out to prove something against men, to scam men out of something they own, or to simply humiliate as many men as possible.

You meet a woman. She smiles. She talks nice to you and calls you "hon'." She touches you on the arm. She makes eye contact. She wants you, right? Wrong. She's tying to get something out of you (ie, Money, Status, Free Drinks, et cetera). How do you know? The moment she sees you will not give her what she wants, she turns mean and insulting. All this stuff would be sexual harassment if a man were to do it to a woman, but is an acceptable part of female behavior, especially in the dating scene. What follows are variations on this theme.

"Putting on a show": You're at a dance club. You see a hot-looking woman dancing alone, flashing you a few booty shots, gyrating suggestively and smiling at you. You may get some action before the evening is over, right? Wrong. SOME Women act in this manner primarily to (1) attract you as a demonstration of their sexuality, (2) reject you as a demonstration of their power over you, and (3) prove they are, under it all, really "good girls." So, just sit back, watch the show, and enjoy it while it lasts, because once she realizes that you aren't taking the bait, she will move on to other prey.

"Between Boyfriends": A woman who might normally never give you the time of day suddenly announces "My boyfriend is out of town" or "I'm between boyfriends." Lucky you, you get to date her. Not so fast, though. Do you really want to be treated as a second or third stringer? She is probably not interested in you. She sees you as a way to show her peers that she has a guy to buy her dinner on "date night"; or she may want to make Boyfriend jealous. So, go ahead and buy her dinner, but keep in mind that her boyfriend may be lurking right around the corner, and the "date" may end up as...

"You & Him Fight": A woman approaches you at a bar/frat party. She close dances with you. She sits in your lap. She locks her lips to yours. Wow, You must be a hot guy, right? So you respond in the same manner. Abruptly, she leaves then returns with boyfriend/bouncer/sexual harassment councilor. She claims indignantly, "He (i.e., you, my man) was bothering me. Wah!" So if a strange woman suddenly starts acting like you're the hottest hunka-hunka burning love she's ever seen, look around for her partner. It's likely that she and her boyfriend are running a scam that's gonna cost you dearly, sooner or later.

"All Men Are Sh*t": Hear that? All men are brothers and members of the "Sh*t" family. No matter what we do, or how well we do it, our only goal in life is to use and abuse every member of the fairer sex and ruin any chances they may have of ever finding "Mr. Right". So, once you hear a woman say anything that begins with the words "All men..." or "Any man...", turn and walk away. Walk away fast.

"My Baby Needs a Daddy": There are several variants of this one. SOME women will follow a strategy of mating with an "alpha male" (e.g., say a gang member), have his child, then look around for a more stable man who can support her and Alpha's genetic heritage. And there are enough sensitive, loving, caring (aka, desperate) men out there who are willing to change the diapers if it means they can get any kind of female attention. So, if she mentions kids - especially her kids - your alarm bells should go off, warning you to put some distance between yourself and this opportunistic manipulator.

"Talk, Talk, Talk": Before you ever go on a date, she engages you in phone conversations lasting hours. Wow! She must be interested in you, right? Wrong. Talkers are rarely doers. She may have several reasons for wasting your time in this fashion:

  • She wants to prove to herself that men are interested in her without having to actually date anyone.
  • She thinks of you as a good "friend", which means she will not want to date you (and certainly not have sex with you!).
  • She has no respect for your time and thinks she can waste it.
So, the best thing to do is to not let her waste your time. Screen your calls, and answer only those that you know will not result in endless mind-numbing chatter.

Now, some may jump on my case for being "Sexist" or just plain wrong, but any man that has been on the dating scene for any reasonable length of time will recognize each of these types of women, and likely have a few stories of their own to tell. I've met at least one of each of these types, in every city I've lived.



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07 Sep 2011, 4:03 pm

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You realise this is a forum for disabled people, dont you? That is a really offensive thing to post, and the fact that you posted it speaks volumes about you.


Yep. I find it quite offensive too.



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07 Sep 2011, 4:05 pm

i'm going to explain... again... and again... as necessary... that there are an approximately equal number of single men and women on the planet (heterosexual). mathematically, this is the case. for every woman who gets taken off the market, there is a man to match.

an equal number of members of each gender are lonely.i doubt that the members of either gender are happy about that situation. it is hard for both men and women. not many people really want to be alone, and it isn't easier for one gender or another.

it isn't surprising to me that the men who express the most misogynistic posts in general are the ones who argue most strenuously that women have it so easy. i guess it is easier to demonise someone who is viewed as the enemy.


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07 Sep 2011, 4:11 pm

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This post may contain exceptionally sexist content, as it is all about...

Manipulating Women

DISCLAIMER: This is not about ALL women, just those predatory ones that seem to be out to prove something against men, to scam men out of something they own, or to simply humiliate as many men as possible.

You meet a woman. She smiles. She talks nice to you and calls you "hon'." She touches you on the arm. She makes eye contact. She wants you, right? Wrong. She's tying to get something out of you (ie, Money, Status, Free Drinks, et cetera). How do you know? The moment she sees you will not give her what she wants, she turns mean and insulting. All this stuff would be sexual harassment if a man were to do it to a woman, but is an acceptable part of female behavior, especially in the dating scene. What follows are variations on this theme.

"Putting on a show": You're at a dance club. You see a hot-looking woman dancing alone, flashing you a few booty shots, gyrating suggestively and smiling at you. You may get some action before the evening is over, right? Wrong. SOME Women act in this manner primarily to (1) attract you as a demonstration of their sexuality, (2) reject you as a demonstration of their power over you, and (3) prove they are, under it all, really "good girls." So, just sit back, watch the show, and enjoy it while it lasts, because once she realizes that you aren't taking the bait, she will move on to other prey.

"Between Boyfriends": A woman who might normally never give you the time of day suddenly announces "My boyfriend is out of town" or "I'm between boyfriends." Lucky you, you get to date her. Not so fast, though. Do you really want to be treated as a second or third stringer? She is probably not interested in you. She sees you as a way to show her peers that she has a guy to buy her dinner on "date night"; or she may want to make Boyfriend jealous. So, go ahead and buy her dinner, but keep in mind that her boyfriend may be lurking right around the corner, and the "date" may end up as...

"You & Him Fight": A woman approaches you at a bar/frat party. She close dances with you. She sits in your lap. She locks her lips to yours. Wow, You must be a hot guy, right? So you respond in the same manner. Abruptly, she leaves then returns with boyfriend/bouncer/sexual harassment councilor. She claims indignantly, "He (i.e., you, my man) was bothering me. Wah!" So if a strange woman suddenly starts acting like you're the hottest hunka-hunka burning love she's ever seen, look around for her partner. It's likely that she and her boyfriend are running a scam that's gonna cost you dearly, sooner or later.

"All Men Are Sh*t": Hear that? All men are brothers and members of the "Sh*t" family. No matter what we do, or how well we do it, our only goal in life is to use and abuse every member of the fairer sex and ruin any chances they may have of ever finding "Mr. Right". So, once you hear a woman say anything that begins with the words "All men..." or "Any man...", turn and walk away. Walk away fast.

"My Baby Needs a Daddy": There are several variants of this one. SOME women will follow a strategy of mating with an "alpha male" (e.g., say a gang member), have his child, then look around for a more stable man who can support her and Alpha's genetic heritage. And there are enough sensitive, loving, caring (aka, desperate) men out there who are willing to change the diapers if it means they can get any kind of female attention. So, if she mentions kids - especially her kids - your alarm bells should go off, warning you to put some distance between yourself and this opportunistic manipulator.

"Talk, Talk, Talk": Before you ever go on a date, she engages you in phone conversations lasting hours. Wow! She must be interested in you, right? Wrong. Talkers are rarely doers. She may have several reasons for wasting your time in this fashion:
  • She wants to prove to herself that men are interested in her without having to actually date anyone.
  • She thinks of you as a good "friend", which means she will not want to date you (and certainly not have sex with you!).
  • She has no respect for your time and thinks she can waste it.
So, the best thing to do is to not let her waste your time. Screen your calls, and answer only those that you know will not result in endless mind-numbing chatter.

Now, some may jump on my case for being "Sexist" or just plain wrong, but any man that has been on the dating scene for any reasonable length of time will recognize each of these types of women, and likely have a few stories of their own to tell. I've met at least one of each of these types, in every city I've lived.

soooo there wasn't enough hate in this thread already?


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07 Sep 2011, 4:19 pm

What hate?

It's not hateful to tell the truth. I've met women like these, and not all women are like these women, either!



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07 Sep 2011, 4:31 pm

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What hate?

It's not hateful to tell the truth. I've met women like these, and not all women are like these women, either!

a few women may have reprehensible behaviour, sure. but to post your inflammatory opinions about different groups of women in a thread that is already pretty misogynistic... well, it seems to be a strategic move. throwing your own garbage on the same fire, as it were.

if you look at the OP, it had nothing to do with what you posted, so your list does indeed appear rather unnecessarily hateful... just like lilypadfad's post.

p.s. your opinion is not "truth".


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07 Sep 2011, 4:33 pm

His post is titled "Manipulating women" , if you aren't a manipulating woman then you shouldn't feel targeted.



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His post is titled "Manipulating women" , if you aren't a manipulating woman then you shouldn't feel targeted.

if you look over my posts you will see i did not say anything about my own personal feelings. i do not feel targeted.

if he had a post entitled "Manipulating Asians" i would just as easily call it hateful (based on content), and it would have nothing to do with me personally.

perhaps you are unaware of how misogynistic the L&D forum is, overall? the hate does get tiresome.


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07 Sep 2011, 4:39 pm

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perhaps you are unaware of how misogynistic the L&D forum is, overall? the hate does get tiresome.


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perhaps you are unaware of how misogynistic the L&D forum is, overall? the hate does get tiresome.


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His post is titled "Manipulating women" , if you aren't a manipulating woman then you shouldn't feel targeted.

if you look over my posts you will see i did not say anything about my own personal feelings. i do not feel targeted.

if he had a post entitled "Manipulating Asians" i would just as easily call it hateful (based on content), and it would have nothing to do with me personally.



If Fnord posted something titled "Jerk Lebanese" or "bastard Middle Easterns" , I wouldn't feel offended per se because I know he's just trying to troll.

He's trolling you and you're falling for it.


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perhaps you are unaware of how misogynistic the L&D forum is, overall? the hate does get tiresome.


And what should I do? Declare the Djih'ad on the L&D?

Ok..

ALLAAHHOO AKBAAARR.........



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07 Sep 2011, 4:50 pm

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If Fnord posted titled "Jerk Lebanese" or "bastard Middle Easterns" , I wouldn't feel offended per se because I know he's just trying to troll.

He's trolling you and you're falling for it.


Provocation is forbidden. We have to ban trolls.


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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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His post is titled "Manipulating women" , if you aren't a manipulating woman then you shouldn't feel targeted.

if you look over my posts you will see i did not say anything about my own personal feelings. i do not feel targeted.

if he had a post entitled "Manipulating Asians" i would just as easily call it hateful (based on content), and it would have nothing to do with me personally.



If Fnord posted titled "Jerk Lebanese" or "bastard Middle Easterns" , I wouldn't feel offended per se because I know he's just trying to troll.

He's trolling you and you're falling for it.



You have been on the board for a while and so are familiar with Fnord. But a lot of people are not. They will take him at face value. Which is ultimately how things should be.


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