How important is money really?

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The_Face_of_Boo
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31 Oct 2011, 9:28 am

Well, just check the top reasons of divorce and you'll know how important money is.

Check the stats and numbers for your answer.

The idealists' answers on this forum do not reflect the general reality on this earth.



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31 Oct 2011, 9:34 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well, just check the top reasons of divorce and you'll know how important money is.

Check the stats and numbers for your answer.

The idealists' answers on this forum does not reflect the general reality on this earth.

If we were to take this http://www.divorceguide.com/free-divorc ... vorce.html at face value it would be the 4th reason, which means that it almost doesnt make it to the top five.

Also we are not denying that some financial stability is important(which is what that article says) we are saying that as long as there is some sort of financial stability the amoubt of money doesnt have as much importance as most male members here like to think.


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31 Oct 2011, 9:40 am

I think the fun that money can buy is more important to some people than the money itself with relationships. I think a guy who is about ready to lose his home because he spends most of his money on things that are related to fun(like eating at fancy restaurants, taking expensive trips) is more appealing to some women than a guy who is rich because he doesn't spend his money having fun. some people love having good times & not worrying about tomorrow


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31 Oct 2011, 9:45 am

spongy wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well, just check the top reasons of divorce and you'll know how important money is.

Check the stats and numbers for your answer.

The idealists' answers on this forum does not reflect the general reality on this earth.

If we were to take this http://www.divorceguide.com/free-divorc ... vorce.html at face value it would be the 4th reason, which means that it almost doesnt make it to the top five.

Also we are not denying that some financial stability is important(which is what that article says) we are saying that as long as there is some sort of financial stability the amoubt of money doesnt have as much importance as most male members here like to think.

yes, and another source:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the ... le2153836/
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The top five reasons in the 2011 matrimonial survey, conducted by Grant Thornton UK LLP are: falling out of love (27 per cent), extramarital affair (25 per cent), unreasonable behaviour (17 per cent), midlife crisis (10 per cent) and emotional/physical abuse (6 per cent).


considering that a woman's standard of living actually decreases on average after divorce, it doesn't seem logical that materialism is a substantial factor in divorce rates.

but maybe that is what you are saying, Boo. i couldn't tell which perspective you were taking.


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31 Oct 2011, 10:01 am

Personally, I tend to seek out stability and security in just about all areas of my life, including relationships. I support myself and I'd like a guy to be able to support himself, too, so that it doesn't add more stress and anxiety to my life.

But, as far as being attracted to someone who is very wealthy and flaunts it? No. I grew up poor, in poverty with no running water or heat during the winter sometimes, actually, and because of those experiences, I think I tend to be rather distrustful of people with money. I prefer guys from a working-class background, just because I can more easily relate to that. And, although I'm now an educated professional, to this day being around someone from a very privileged background still makes me feel like white trash.



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31 Oct 2011, 11:40 am

Not important at all , its simply over rated.



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31 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm

Very important. cdn.okcimg.co m/blog/lies/MaleMessageDistributionByIncomeBright.png (can't post links)

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and it speaks more to society's issues that women of higher education have a harder time finding love - perhaps with time our culture will adjust. no reason for women to adjust their ambitions to suit old-fashioned ideals.

So it's only men that care to make more than their partners? Do men "marry down"?



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31 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm

I'd prefer a partner be financially independent, but that's about as far as I care. Fact is, I don't care much for spending money. I'd find it refreshing to see someone be sensible enough not to have a flashy car, clothes, accessories unless they are very comfortable monetarily.


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31 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm

i don't think a mans finances are important, but noone believes me



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31 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm

Flyer wrote:
Very important. cdn.okcimg.co m/blog/lies/MaleMessageDistributionByIncomeBright.png (can't post links)
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and it speaks more to society's issues that women of higher education have a harder time finding love - perhaps with time our culture will adjust. no reason for women to adjust their ambitions to suit old-fashioned ideals.

So it's only men that care to make more than their partners? Do men "marry down"?

that graph has really mixed results except that if men make very little money they might not get many messages. women with a great deal of higher education have a similar difficulty. there will always be some people who care about that stuff, which is unfortunate. i think we should be working to change society as opposed to trying to fit some archaic expectation.

i have no idea what you mean by 'marrying down'.

do you have the rest of the article that goes along with the graph? the graph itself doesn't show what factors are corrected for. for example, are they talking about first messages only, or which messages are answered?


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31 Oct 2011, 12:18 pm

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and it speaks more to society's issues that women of higher education have a harder time finding love - perhaps with time our culture will adjust. no reason for women to adjust their ambitions to suit old-fashioned ideals.


The old fashioned ideals worked because they had their roots in reality. The reality of female attractiveness, female fertility and male psychology.

I'll repeat some of my insensitive advice for young ladies reading.

- You are as attractive as you are ever going to be when you are ages 18-25, nothing you can do will stop the plunge. Yes it's different for men, yes it's unfair.
- Get or stay thin, fat destroys your looks.
- Pursuing a high-powered career will not make you more attractive to men. It may get you introductions to high status men, but there are ways around it without the massive investment of time and energy.
- Think long (but not 20 years) and hard about whether you want children ever. If yes, have them young, in your 20s. Fertility is a cruel joke, it starts to drop quite rapidly after age 27, age 35 is considered a geriatric pregnancy and is fraught with complications. What's more your children tend to be healthier. Every celeb you see who conceives at 40 has plugged massive amounts of money into fertility treatments, that's not going to be you.
- Post graduate education can wait or be done part time.
- You should know that for 99% of the human race (men and women) having children is the most fulfilling, most rewarding thing you can do with your life. Over career, over education, everything. It is the biological imperative.
- Every guy you screw lowers your relationship/marriage value, but increases your "pump and dump" value.
- Ignore the advice of single women when it comes to relationships. Actually ignore the ones in relationships too, sexual competition among women is brutal, they are not your friends.
- If you don't want to work, don't. That is your privilege and your kids will probably be better off too.

You might think I would say wait until marriage before having sex, but I've seen first hand how women who chose that path end up alone, no matter how good looking they are. When guys are surrounded by slu*ty girls willing to take it in the ass on the first date, what's a girl to do? Making them wait is key, it helps weed out the players from the keepers. How long I will leave up to discussion.

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So it's only men that care to make more than their partners? Do men "marry down"?


Yes we marry down, our monkey brains think it increases the chances of her remaining loyal.


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31 Oct 2011, 12:23 pm

blueroses wrote:
I prefer guys from a working-class background, just because I can more easily relate to that. And, although I'm now an educated professional, to this day being around someone from a very privileged background still makes me feel like white trash.


Actually, I am the exact opposite, I sort of feel superior to anyone who isn't self-made - spending your parent's money doesn't really impress me all that much.

Plus "old money" people tend to be impossibly lame at even the simplest tasks - Growing up in Orange County, I have seen some hilarious things along these lines. Many of those people can't even get out of their own way... :roll:

I'll save my admiration and respect for someone who lifted themselves out of the trailer park any day of the week...



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31 Oct 2011, 12:27 pm

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Note: the first guy who posts "women only want money" can expect to get a wedgie they will never forget... :twisted:


What about posting "semi-ugly women with no money think they deserve a good looking rich guy". :lmao:



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31 Oct 2011, 12:28 pm

too many ridiculous claims and hyperbole in your post lilypadfad, but it was good for something because it made me laugh out loud at my desk!! ! people do realise that your aim is to keep women subverted below men - you have actually stated (sometimes directly and sometimes indirectly) that you want men to have power and control over women. so everything you write can be interpreted through that agenda, which makes your statements quite funny! thanks for the laugh.


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31 Oct 2011, 12:31 pm

Venger wrote:
Grisha wrote:

Note: the first guy who posts "women only want money" can expect to get a wedgie they will never forget... :twisted:


What about posting "semi-ugly women with no money think they deserve a good looking rich guy". :lmao:


That too, but I've honestly never seen it happen on WP - the other scenario happens on an almost daily basis...



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31 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm

that's the whole link :
http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/lies/MaleMes ... Bright.png

are these okc trends "stats" are real?

If yes, then the green/red square charts tells the whole story.