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Ahh my comment wasn't really referring to this thread in particular, but only to a general trend on this forum. Some users claimed before, in other threads, that having a nice personality is the most important trait, or not being able to drive shouldn't a problem for men at all...all small comments here and there.

And I've noticed that same about women caring toward man's physical appearance more than they're willing to admit.

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Yeah real life through my eyes is nothing like most people portray it on this forum. If it was, I'd be doing a LOT better in all aspects.

I'm the one who said that. Maybe it's a cultural thing here, but I sure don't understand what's a big deal. I don't drive, my husband doesn't drive, we don't have a car. And we're hardly the only people in the world who don't drive.



Women often discriminate men based on the height, weight and hair (mostly). Not all women care about the appearance, and MOST women do need more than just a physical attraction to really like a man, but these things happen fairly often.

Now, contrary to the popular belief, many men need more than just a physical attraction, too, but a girl being pretty is usually the first thin on the list for many men. Still, it seems that women tend to downplay the physical appearance or to claim they don't care about it much, if at all. Then we wonder why Robert Pattinson and Justin Bieber are teen sex symbols instead of chubby short guys (nothing wrong with chubby short guys, of course).

But that's another story and I'm afraid we're getting off topic here.

Suppose so. Sounds like it's time to get the hell out of Al'Lubnan.

I dunno, try Dublin Ireland. The only Semitic people I've seen continually crash and burn are the complete douches, which you don't seem to be going by your posts. You seem a bit burnt out and disillusioned with how life has been, but that's about the only serious negative.

(Incidentally, I grew up around Ashkenazim and Sephardim. I've seen a photo of you which you've posted here. If that's your photo, well, I think I could be a lucky guy if I were into guys...)

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Thank for being a little bit honest about looks.

About the driving thing. At least in my country, you're going to have a hard time getting females to take you seriously if you don't drive and/or own a car, especially at my age. Most decent women expect a grown man to at least be able drive, since most learn in their mid teens.

Heck women in my neighborhood (some refer to them as "hoodrats" I would never do that) wouldn't look twice at someone who couldn't drive at my age. It's just not a good look.

This happens to me as well. Much less often than it used to, thankfully. Maybe, as was advised in another thread, medication would be a good idea. It won't fix all your problems, but maybe it could relieve the anxiety enough to let you get in some social practice.

That is your own view of yourself, not others! Several people have told you that your not and your probably basing most of your opinion on your lack of relationships.



What would you consider an accomplishment? and if you want to be of help to other people then go volunteer somewhere, that would kill two birds with one stone in my opinion.


Then bathe, it's very simple, go get in the tub or shower and scrub the smell away!



I'm not sure what a sped drop out is so can't comment on that. But....
if it walks, quacks and acts like a duck...then maybe it's a confused, self hating 'ugly duckling' that's actually a swan waiting to flourish!



Half the time? and what about the other half? That to me says that sometimes things do go right! Your only pathetic because your allowing yourself to be pathetic.

I've read a few of your threads and initially I thought gee what a poor guy I feel bad for him I wish there was something I could do. What can I do? What can any of us do when you seem so set on hating yourself and not trying to change?! Nobody is going to come knocking on your door with a gift basket of friends, wealth, a girlfriend and lifetime of amazing times, you have to do what everyone else does autism or not, you have to get off your ass and make a life for yourself and the only way you can do that is by taking the very good advice of many people and change/improve what you can!

It seems to me that MR20 has given up trying. Full stop. He just comes on this site for sympathy and for people to say "Oh poor you". This just makes his situation worse and reinforces his sense of helplessness and victim mindset. He is his own worst enemy. Only he can do anything to change his life and he has to start with his fundamental problem - his chronically low self esteem. While he hangs onto the belief that he is a worthless piece of shite his life will continue in exactly the same way. People will continue to give him advice which he ignores and he will continue to substitute love and real friendships from real people for strangers on here giving him sympathy. "Poor poor MR20, everyone is terrible towards you, nothing you can do about it" - that is all he wants to hear. He loves a good wallow in self pity.

My experience with women, dating, socializing is very slim; so I can't comment on that. Women's preferences seem like a confusing, contradictory mess. What all men want is to get laid, but being so blunt about it is...well...practically illegal. On the other hand, being a proper gentleman is completely unattractive to most women. Baffling!

I always compare mating preferences to apes. There is an alpha who has sex with all the females, and he gets that right until he is killed or dethroned. Most of the qualities women are instinctively attracted to are displayed in these alpha male apes. So maybe studying them would help us socially delinquent males learn how to act like someone women want to have sex with. Or maybe try out "game", as instructed on sites like http://www.fastseduction.com/. Sure it is manipulative, but if mating rituals don't come naturally maybe you just have to learn to fake it. Or refuse to participate, as I have done.

For the most part I agree with the negative world view. I think of it like the IQ bell curve in terms of happiness. Most people have their share of positives and negatives, some people have almost entirely positive lives, and others are just miserable and fail at everything. I don't believe there is much we as individuals can do to change our predicament. If you are an omega, you'll probably be scorned by society and won't receive an ounce of pity. That's just the way it is.

Those telling MR20 to "stop complaining and do something about it" are only looking at the symptoms - not the causes. If his solution was as easy as "stop hating yourself and take a bath" he already would have done it. Again, as someone very similar, the only thing I can recommend to make life more bearable is medication. People like us often end up as bums, prisoners, institutionalized or dead from suicide. But if you can fill your brain with pleasure chemicals, you may find life and its various tasks easier to deal with.

This life sure is....

Ok, um, you shouldn't compare mating rituals and techniques of animals with humans. You simply can't do it.

If nothing else, with promiscuous species, females mate with as many males they can find; being an Alpha doesn't mean to be the most attractive to females, but ensuring you can stop any other male from approaching the females.

Wait, that's not what people do, right?

Maybe something like that...

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That's a narrow thinking, of course you can compare humans to animals. Humans are animals after all and they share common ancestors with the today's apes.




That's not the case for all species.

Humans are physically animals, but they have something animals don't: a culture. Culture (nurture) spreads through ALL human activities, including the most basic, biological ones. Nothing people do is completely "natural": it's always influenced by culture to some degree. So comparing people with any animals basically means disregarding culture, and it's a wrong way to go, because you can't understand humans unless you take culture into account.

Mating strategies and reproduction is determined by culture, so comparing humans with apes doesn't work. (This is a short archaeological & anhtropological answer).



Of course not, and it's interesting that people in this situation never mention monogamous species, or species where males take a more active role when it comes to offspring (such as seahorses), or species where females are promiscuous.

No; in instances like this, people tend to mention only species and mating strategies of animals that "mirror" (or they think these animals mirror) the double sexual standards of humans. Wrong. The double standards and the whole human mating strategies are guided by culture and it should be viewed in the context of the culture.

It doesn't mean people don't have natural urges, they do. But the culture determined what are acceptable ways of displaying these urges. For example, men and women have the same sexual urges, and yet, women are expected not to act the same way on them like men are.