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17 Feb 2012, 11:23 pm

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Buff, handsome and rich men have something to back up their confidence, while men who do not have these attractive qualities do not.




That is bull.



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18 Feb 2012, 12:07 am

In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


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18 Feb 2012, 12:08 am

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One thing that took me a long time to learn is that you can be very good looking and have many good qualities, but if you don't have confidence you don't attract the opposite sex as easily as other people.


That's a myth. I never really believed that.

Buff, handsome and rich men have something to back up their confidence, while men who do not have these attractive qualities do not. Off course you can always fake confidence but this doesn't work out in the end because women can smell fake confidence from a mile away.


It's not a myth. Low confidence is a social killer. Love yourself and have confidence in yourself and everything else, socially speaking, will just kind of fall into place.


Again with this "confidence" BS. It's just a way how selfish and arrogant people justify treating people the way they do. BTW, f***ing changing yourself to be "social" (I hate that f***ing word) You shouldn't have to change yourself just so people will hang out/talk to you.

It's one of the main reasons I like being alone.
its good advice MR20. being confident is like 96% of the 'battle'. if you arent confident, you've already lost the vast majority of girls who would have otherwise maybe given you a shot. personally, im going to suck it up and pretend im more confident than i actually am. im pretty confident to begin with, when it comes to girls, but you cant leave any room for unconfidence at all, or it will show.



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18 Feb 2012, 12:59 am

Boxman108 wrote:
In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.



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18 Feb 2012, 1:18 am

hale_bopp wrote:
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In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.


Thing is, no amount of confidence, act or not, is going to change whether someone is actually attractive or desirable. It would be the equivalent of someone bragging about this job or car or money they don't really have.


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18 Feb 2012, 1:20 am

Boxman108 wrote:
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In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.


Thing is, no amount of confidence, act or not, is going to change whether someone is actually attractive or desirable. It would be the equivalent of someone bragging about this job or car or money they don't really have.

i beg to differ:

http://ravivora.com/blog/ugly-actors-you-know-and-love


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18 Feb 2012, 2:47 am

hyperlexian wrote:
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In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.


Thing is, no amount of confidence, act or not, is going to change whether someone is actually attractive or desirable. It would be the equivalent of someone bragging about this job or car or money they don't really have.

i beg to differ:

http://ravivora.com/blog/ugly-actors-you-know-and-love

Just an observation, but all of the photos in that article were taken when the people were older. By the time they looked like that, they had already acquired a successful career because when they were younger they were prettier. If they had started their careers like that, well, would any of the Hollywood "big cheeses" have hired them? For example, here is a picture of Helena Bonham-Carter when she was younger:

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Now compare with the photo in the article, when she is older:

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18 Feb 2012, 6:48 am

Boxman108 wrote:
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In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.


Thing is, no amount of confidence, act or not, is going to change whether someone is actually attractive or desirable.


Um... yes it does.



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18 Feb 2012, 7:35 am

hyperlexian wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
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In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.


Thing is, no amount of confidence, act or not, is going to change whether someone is actually attractive or desirable. It would be the equivalent of someone bragging about this job or car or money they don't really have.

i beg to differ:

http://ravivora.com/blog/ugly-actors-you-know-and-love


And i beg to differ yet again. Most of those that i recognize have done commedy/supporting/badguy roles. Those arent the ones people fall head over heels for.



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18 Feb 2012, 7:37 am

hale_bopp wrote:
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In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.


Confidence isnt something you buy in the drug store. You cant just say "ill be confident" and actually be it. You need to have the external aspect to support your claims of confidence otherwise you're just pretending to be confident.



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18 Feb 2012, 8:03 am

If you don't have any qualities to back up your confidence, then people will loathe you. It's just a battle for the strongest. Your confidence should be even with the qualities you have. Personally I don't like the idea I'm writing myself either but this is how most people see it. If you don't have anything that appeals to other people than just focus on attracting people that are in the same position of yours, if you can find them. But in the end it's all on the inside of a person, some people that have all the qualities will love people with lower qualities, it's just how they think about it that matters, but you'll discover that these people would be rather rare. If you're not having anything to brag about, then I think you shouldn't be spending energy in socializing, because the disappointments will bring you more down than your own loneliness will do over time. It's a really negative view on it, but it's the truth I think.



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18 Feb 2012, 8:39 am

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Do you have any tips that can help a guy like me hook up with a hot girl?


You do realise you're now excluding all the nice girls?

Good luck to you.


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18 Feb 2012, 1:28 pm

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.


Thing is, no amount of confidence, act or not, is going to change whether someone is actually attractive or desirable. It would be the equivalent of someone bragging about this job or car or money they don't really have.

i beg to differ:

http://ravivora.com/blog/ugly-actors-you-know-and-love

Just an observation, but all of the photos in that article were taken when the people were older. By the time they looked like that, they had already acquired a successful career because when they were younger they were prettier. If they had started their careers like that, well, would any of the Hollywood "big cheeses" have hired them? For example, here is a picture of Helena Bonham-Carter when she was younger:

[img]http://michaelmay.us/temp/0601_helena_bonham_carter.jpg[/img

Now compare with the photo in the article, when she is older:

[img]http://ravivora.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/helena_bonham_carter.jpg[/img

the women in the article are not really applicable, as women are pretty much required to be beautiful in Hollywood. but if you look at the men when they were younger they were still not "attractive" by Hollywood standards when they started their careers.

Vincent Schiavelli:
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Steve Buscemi:
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these guys are pretty confident....


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18 Feb 2012, 1:32 pm

MXH wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
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In my experience, trying to act confident when you don't actually have anything to be confident about only makes you look like a cocky prick. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't find that attractive at all. There's much more to be said for being humble(not necessarily pessimistic).


That's why you actually get confident, not put on an act.


Thing is, no amount of confidence, act or not, is going to change whether someone is actually attractive or desirable. It would be the equivalent of someone bragging about this job or car or money they don't really have.

i beg to differ:

http://ravivora.com/blog/ugly-actors-you-know-and-love


And i beg to differ yet again. Most of those that i recognize have done commedy/supporting/badguy roles. Those arent the ones people fall head over heels for.

who said anything about falling head over heels for them? the point is that they are confident in spite of being "ugly", and all of them were able to successfully date.


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18 Feb 2012, 3:15 pm

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All the girls in my class keep saying how much they love and how incredibly hot Justin Bieber and One Direction are, and because the can't 'get' them, they are all interested in the boys (2 or 3) who look like them.
No girl ever shows any interest in me, even though I keep getting A and B+ grades, I know more about more than everyone else in my class, and I certainly don't see my self as ugly.

Do you have any tips that can help a guy like me hook up with a hot girl?


I'm quite shocked, aren't there any jazz or metal girls at your school? Start hanging out at alternative places, perhaps an art class. The first step is to find a place where girls with intelligence and academic value hang out and the second step is to find a place where girls with good music taste and a sense of individuality hang out.



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18 Feb 2012, 3:56 pm

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The second step is to find a place where girls with good music taste and a sense of individuality hang out.

I cannot agree more. Last thing you want is a girl with the hots for Justin Blubber.
Try in HMV and similar music stores, actually try your town centre if you have one.


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