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26 Feb 2012, 8:27 am

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Anyone else ever get to this point?


Yes. I'm not functional enough to maintain a normal level of social contact with other people, much less living in a relationship. Online relationships worked for me for a while, both as friendships and romantic relationships, but I can't maintain those either.

A former friend told me that I'm probably more compatible with cats than with human beings, and it turned out that she was right. I've decided to spend the rest of my life as the male equivalent of a crazy old cat lady (hence my forum name :) ). I wish I could afford a larger place and 20 or 30 cats.


I have one cat and we get along great, I really think it's the only relationship I'll have that's semi-functional - I think you may be on to something there...



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29 Feb 2012, 4:29 pm

Ive thrown in the towel 6 years ago. I have realized nobody wants to get serious with a freak like me. At least that is what I think as well. As cold as it may seem, sometimes I think a relationship is a distraction from my studies and work. I might change my mind you might as well but i think i know how ya feel.



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29 Feb 2012, 7:27 pm

There is someone for everyone.
Maybe you are not ready yet

My experience's with dating seem to indicate that forces outside of my control dictate my success. Chasing the feather and throwing in the towel and the master appearing when the student is ready

Your first post states:

'I am simply too oblivious regarding my own feelings, and especially the way I make others feel, either good or bad. '

I'm sure there are many women in LA, suitable and wanting you to be their boyfriend.



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29 Feb 2012, 7:35 pm

Yep. My 14-year marriage just ended, and now I am relieved and thrilled to be happily single for the rest of my life. I tried my best to do the relationship thing, and be 'normal'... Definitely not for me!



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29 Feb 2012, 10:34 pm

My default position started with the towel thrown in. I didnt even realize it was my towel. At some point I picked it up.

But for a time I think I was at peace with not having a towel. Close enough anyway.



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29 Feb 2012, 11:04 pm

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My default position started with the towel thrown in. I didnt even realize it was my towel. At some point I picked it up.

But for a time I think I was at peace with not having a towel. Close enough anyway.

i actually visualised this entire sequence. awesome imagery!


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29 Feb 2012, 11:27 pm

Grisha wrote:
I think I've finally gathered enough evidence to convince me that I simply cannot function in a romantic relationship and I've given up trying - I am simply too oblivious regarding my own feelings, and especially the way I make others feel, either good or bad.

Anyone else ever get to this point?


To a great extent yes but small part of me...wishes. I don't think I'm good at relationships or the kind that is both ideal for me and the other person. I am to "unempathetic" and selfish with my self I guess though there are times where I wish people would understand some of the character defects I have. But I may have hurted a couple of people without realizing and for that, I don't want to do it again. I need my space but at the same time....I wish I could share some of that space with someone if it makes sense to anyone who has the same or similar problem.


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01 Mar 2012, 10:54 am

I pretty much gave up trying a few years ago when I realized every time a woman seemed interested in me, I backed away very quickly. It became rather clear that all my troubles with relationships were the result of my own anxieties and not any lack of interest on the part of women.

The advantages are that I get far less worked up about women nowadays. The disadvantage is I feel even more that my future is one of dwindling friendships and increasing isolation.

I think it can be helpful to let yourself off the hook when it comes to intimate relationships, but it's very important to continue the work of developing and maintaining friendships.


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01 Mar 2012, 11:10 am

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I pretty much gave up trying a few years ago when I realized every time a woman seemed interested in me, I backed away very quickly. It became rather clear that all my troubles with relationships were the result of my own anxieties and not any lack of interest on the part of women.

The advantages are that I get far less worked up about women nowadays. The disadvantage is I feel even more that my future is one of dwindling friendships and increasing isolation.

I think it can be helpful to let yourself off the hook when it comes to intimate relationships, but it's very important to continue the work of developing and maintaining friendships.


Thanks for this, it's really perceptive.

I always thought of a romantic relationship as my ticket out of my self-absorbed, anxious, fearful, confused existence - guess I was wrong about that (duh, but better late than never...)

Trouble is, I really have no talent/skill for establishing and maintaining anything resembling a friendship IRL, I kind of use the Internet as a crutch to get around this, but it should really be a step towards getting my social sh*t togther IRL.

Still, it feels like an enormous weight has been lifted from my shoulders - I just don't know what is supposed to come next...



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01 Mar 2012, 11:30 am

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Thanks for the pep-talk! :)


I thought you were coming to Britain, Eric? Any further information on that? LMK if owt changes, won't you? :)



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01 Mar 2012, 11:50 am

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Aw, that seems like such a waste.


I've heard people say that too, usually extroverted psychologists. They think you're selfish and wasteful to not give yourself to others; I think they're stupid, and I know they're only seeing things from the perspective of socially normal individuals.

It was the worst advice I've ever seen from a psycho, and that's actually saying a lot.



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01 Mar 2012, 11:56 am

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Thanks for the pep-talk! :)


I thought you were coming to Britain, Eric? Any further information on that? LMK if owt changes, won't you? :)


I'm still planning on it, I *really* need to get away, but I'm moving in April so I keep having to push it back, I absolutely must avoid the Olympics at all costs so May-June looks likely.

I'm thinking about hiring a motorhome and just driving it "wherever" for a week or two...



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02 Mar 2012, 11:07 am

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Ive thrown in the towel 6 years ago. I have realized nobody wants to get serious with a freak like me. At least that is what I think as well. As cold as it may seem, sometimes I think a relationship is a distraction from my studies and work. I might change my mind you might as well but i think i know how ya feel.


23 years old is rather early to give up.



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02 Mar 2012, 11:22 am

Grisha wrote:
Tequila wrote:
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Thanks for the pep-talk! :)


I thought you were coming to Britain, Eric? Any further information on that? LMK if owt changes, won't you? :)


I'm still planning on it, I *really* need to get away, but I'm moving in April so I keep having to push it back, I absolutely must avoid the Olympics at all costs so May-June looks likely.

I'm thinking about hiring a motorhome and just driving it "wherever" for a week or two...

One word of caution - if you've never been to Gold Coast, QLD Aus it might be worth the trip one of these days. Only danger is you might expatriate.


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02 Mar 2012, 4:58 pm

I give up too. I cant even keep an aspie guy. I am the most social inept person on the planet. >.<

How socially inept am I? I have been at uni a week and I have not even had one person talk to me except the obese guy who was trying to look over my shoulder and copy my resonses in Maths. :roll:


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03 Mar 2012, 12:50 am

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I prefer being solo, and yes, you can be happy and complete as "one" person. People who think they need to be with other people all of the time in order to be happy, are too needy. My younger brother's ex girl friend was like that. Unfortunately, the shack-up led to a shacklet, and neither parent was suited to being a parent, so my nephew was raised by his maternal grand parents. People who aren't suited to parenthood should keep their legs crossed, or at least use birth control. And I am not referring to the murder of the pre-born.

Back on topic--before looking for a partner, you really need to first find yourself. That is, develop who and what you are. Trying to do that while also developing a relationship tends to put a strain on the relationship. It is very hard to be with someone who is still in the process of growing into who they are to become, because the relationship starts with the people being one thing, and then at least one of the people changes. They may not like what each has changed to.

Never forget that being solo is a viable option. You can do what you want when you want, within the limits of work, appointments, etc. You also don't have to put up with difficult people much when you are solo.

I am basically a hermit, and live alone, my phone is hooked to an answer machine to screen calls, and I don't have to pick up if I don't want to, and I get to not invite people over, since I don't go much for company. I also get to not attend parties and family get-togethers, unless I choose to go. I have health problems, which cause me to have an irregular schedule, so I eat when I choose, not on someone else's schedule. I also get to pick what I want to eat--as long as it is in the house, and without constant criticism of every molecule I injest. :-D

I lived with relatives most of my life, and have lived alone for several years now. I never want to live with anyone again! Alone is much better for me. When I lived with relatives, we all drove one another crazy, as they couldn't deal with my being different, and I couldn't handle their unrealistic demands that I behave normal. We get along better now that we don't live together.

So remember, being solo is not the end of the world. Just take time to grow into being yourself before you try couple-hood. That way, if it doesn't work, you can still fall back on being solo, and won't be freaking out about that.
I am the same way,I prefer living alone and function much better under those circumstances. I need an incredible amount of down time to recover from social situations.It would take an incredibly patient woman who could put up with all of my eccentricities.