ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
And that's what I meant, you just took what I said to an extreme for lulz well done. As I guy, which I thought you were btw. It helps to dial things up a notch on first encounters.
The "Guys should x" thing is kinda rubbish for some people as well though, and I find myself being a poster-boy example.
For instance my interests, my tastes, are exotic to the point of failure-to-conform; at least in the area that I live. I can be polite to people, I can be engaging, I can 'hide' that part of myself when its not being asked about but - there's no such thing in a relationship. The girls in my area actually are into those things are complete sleepers - ie. I could go to a bar and barely see a thing that would distinguish her from the next girl; there's no way I'd ever know unless I talked to her - which only takes a reasonable amount of effort if you simply get out, live life, and don't push people away.
However to try and make the attempts to even start conversation out of nowhere just because I find someone visually attractive - at best its "Raaah! Not.....my.....type....." and at worst I get them interested in me and then find out I'm not interested in them or that there are cultural differences I have that I haven't exposed them to about myself that they simply wouldn't put up with.
I think that's why I really prefer the natural acquaintence-first route, it'll feel natural and right to me, to them, it'll have social proof already built in. I know someone with supposedly such a bad losing strategy (ie. being single) shouldn't make any such remarks by so many people's standards but - I realize also its a choice. Would I rather get my teeth drilled than go on three first dates a week? check. Do I hate everything about how contrived situations feel and what kinds of results they yield? check.
The problem with me isn't due to awful strategy, or even particularly bad game or 'patter' - its that I am me to begin with. To say that though I'm likely just reiterating this that I said earlier:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
you want something from a specific angle that nature will not give it to you from, hence you want a great relationship but a great relationship for you is something that requires instincts from women that they do not have, your bar is pretty much set at that level (partly because you're too cerebral to be ruled by what's between your legs) and you'll eventually realize - you don't want a relationship as it can happen in the real world, you just love the idea of it and wish you could have the closeness, the physical, the sense of endorsement, someone to share your life with etc. - great but, by our personality styles vs. what's available its probably not going to happen.
Its a 'failure' of fundamental neurological conformity. We live in a neurodiverse world but one that has a very strong program of elevating conformity to the level of deity. I just get curious sometimes though what people who are on the smiting side of that cultural impulse should be doing with their lives, if they want to link up with other...say...quirkyalones... even just at the platonic level. Should it be a community in and of itself? Should quirkyalones build safe havens in society where they can congregate?
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