The other 'out' guys at the party

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13 May 2012, 11:41 am

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No, I'm asking you a very real question.


Then my very real answer would be that all of the guys I have dated long-term and I were friends before we started dating. I have never found another approach that worked for me, other than getting to know someone in that manner first and keeping a friendship at the core of the relationship. I realize that approach doesn't work for everyone, but it's the only approach that's ever worked for me personally.


And that's what I meant, you just took what I said to an extreme for lulz well done. As I guy, which I thought you were btw. It helps to dial things up a notch on first encounters.



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13 May 2012, 11:42 am

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Oh yeah, speaking of which - blue - you should try faking a good British accent. Combine that with making a good likeness of Emma Watson's autograph you might be able to open some fascinating horizons. :lol:


Nah, my hair finally started growing back. I don't know that I could bear to hack it all off again. It took so much patience for me to get it back to this point again. :)

She grew it back though and I think at any length you could probably pull it off; so long as she doesn't pull a Katy Perry on moments notice and go for electric blue, turqouis, or some wacky 'essence of ocean' off a Sherwin Williams chit.


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13 May 2012, 12:05 pm

ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
And that's what I meant, you just took what I said to an extreme for lulz well done. As I guy, which I thought you were btw. It helps to dial things up a notch on first encounters.

The "Guys should x" thing is kinda rubbish for some people as well though, and I find myself being a poster-boy example.

For instance my interests, my tastes, are exotic to the point of failure-to-conform; at least in the area that I live. I can be polite to people, I can be engaging, I can 'hide' that part of myself when its not being asked about but - there's no such thing in a relationship. The girls in my area actually are into those things are complete sleepers - ie. I could go to a bar and barely see a thing that would distinguish her from the next girl; there's no way I'd ever know unless I talked to her - which only takes a reasonable amount of effort if you simply get out, live life, and don't push people away.

However to try and make the attempts to even start conversation out of nowhere just because I find someone visually attractive - at best its "Raaah! Not.....my.....type....." and at worst I get them interested in me and then find out I'm not interested in them or that there are cultural differences I have that I haven't exposed them to about myself that they simply wouldn't put up with.

I think that's why I really prefer the natural acquaintence-first route, it'll feel natural and right to me, to them, it'll have social proof already built in. I know someone with supposedly such a bad losing strategy (ie. being single) shouldn't make any such remarks by so many people's standards but - I realize also its a choice. Would I rather get my teeth drilled than go on three first dates a week? check. Do I hate everything about how contrived situations feel and what kinds of results they yield? check.

The problem with me isn't due to awful strategy, or even particularly bad game or 'patter' - its that I am me to begin with. To say that though I'm likely just reiterating this that I said earlier:

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you want something from a specific angle that nature will not give it to you from, hence you want a great relationship but a great relationship for you is something that requires instincts from women that they do not have, your bar is pretty much set at that level (partly because you're too cerebral to be ruled by what's between your legs) and you'll eventually realize - you don't want a relationship as it can happen in the real world, you just love the idea of it and wish you could have the closeness, the physical, the sense of endorsement, someone to share your life with etc. - great but, by our personality styles vs. what's available its probably not going to happen.


Its a 'failure' of fundamental neurological conformity. We live in a neurodiverse world but one that has a very strong program of elevating conformity to the level of deity. I just get curious sometimes though what people who are on the smiting side of that cultural impulse should be doing with their lives, if they want to link up with other...say...quirkyalones... even just at the platonic level. Should it be a community in and of itself? Should quirkyalones build safe havens in society where they can congregate?


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13 May 2012, 12:07 pm

It would be a good start. As an example where I live, there is a small gay community that's almost completely exclusive. There are known gay friendly shops, clubs and even work places, but it's like an underground thing.



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13 May 2012, 12:15 pm

Sounds edgy.

I had a friend show me this last weekend, f'ing hillarious show but who knows...maybe I need to move to Portland, fall in love with a coffee-shop or music store clerk with black & red hair who looks like she got hit in the face with a tacklebox. Perhaps I've been denying and surpressing my inner hipster :lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVmq9dq6Nsg[/youtube]


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13 May 2012, 12:16 pm

That is a glorious, glorious city, and that show really is spot on about so much of it..



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13 May 2012, 12:18 pm

I could have a lot of fun, and I'd probably feel as free as an uncaged bird but - I'd need one of those Men In Black memory wands to swipe in front of people's eyes if the cat got out of the bag that I'm Republican. :lol:


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13 May 2012, 12:19 pm

ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
It would be a good start. As an example where I live, there is a small gay community that's almost completely exclusive. There are known gay friendly shops, clubs and even work places, but it's like an underground thing.


I'm told that Northern Ireland is somewhat behind on the acceptance of homosexuality compared to the rest of the United Kingdom. I take it this is correct?



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13 May 2012, 12:21 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I could have a lot of fun, and I'd probably feel as free as an uncaged bird but - I'd need one of those Men In Black memory wands to swipe in front of people's eyes if the cat got out of the bag that I'm Republican. :lol:


Surprisingly.. I found that the bulk of the people living in "Little Beirut" aka Portland.. were Ron Paul supporting Libertarians.. Which is really strange considering they all love their public transit and pedestrianization of the city.

I'd almost say they were some sort of bastard hybrid.. Libertarian-socialist or something.. Whatever they are.. it isn't easy to nail down precisely..



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13 May 2012, 12:22 pm

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Sounds edgy.


I guess it is, they don't want to have to deal with homophobia. I'm sure Aspieness has its stigma and its haters, too. It's all new to me, I only found out was AS was this year.



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13 May 2012, 12:23 pm

Tequila wrote:
ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
It would be a good start. As an example where I live, there is a small gay community that's almost completely exclusive. There are known gay friendly shops, clubs and even work places, but it's like an underground thing.


I'm told that Northern Ireland is somewhat behind on the acceptance of homosexuality compared to the rest of the United Kingdom. I take it this is correct?

Depends if by UK, you compare it Brixton or Glasgow.



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13 May 2012, 12:30 pm

:lol: While this stuff is cute and charming for a minute though it would probably start activating the misanthrope in me after much more than a couple months:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XM3vWJmpfo[/youtube]

ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
I guess it is, they don't want to have to deal with homophobia. I'm sure Aspieness has its stigma and its haters, too. It's all new to me, I only found out was AS was this year.
Oh right, I just meant the hidden community part of it. Who knows, maybe aspies need some type of icon or glyph, to designate safe zones. I'd be neat, but clearly it would take common sense that if you're in a rough part of town being lead down an alleyway something may well be amiss.


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13 May 2012, 12:31 pm

well it isn't all like that.. and if you need time away from the twee of the alphabet or pearl.. just go to grim and gritty Gresham and have your fill of ramshackle projects and meth labs..