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JanuaryMan
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09 Jun 2012, 7:00 pm

I enjoy all the manly stuff but am very feminine in my communication, feelings and such.
Unfortunately it leads many to believe I am gay and it has caused bullying even where I drink despite these people knowing my track history (girlfriends, what they would call "conquests", my success with women compared to theirs).

Unfortunately a woman being more understanding of our predicament doesn't mean they have to like us any more than they do/ don't already.



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09 Jun 2012, 7:01 pm

Kinme wrote:
I'm man enough.


So what does that make Scuba :o



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09 Jun 2012, 7:02 pm

JanuaryMan wrote:
Kinme wrote:
I'm man enough.


So what does that make Scuba :o


Apparently, he is a lady. ;D



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09 Jun 2012, 7:04 pm

If you mean emotionally I would definitely agree.

Appearance? Not so much.


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09 Jun 2012, 7:44 pm

I am a manly man.



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09 Jun 2012, 7:54 pm

Joker wrote:
I am a manly man.


I bet I'm manlier than you! :o



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09 Jun 2012, 8:14 pm

I have to admit it's disturbing how much the average woman responds to confidence. The flip-side is that most super-confident men are also total anal orifices - but that doesn't seem to matter! So long as she feels the spark of excitement that comes from a macho-man...

[sigh] It's disheartening sometimes... it's hard to feel confident while so many people try so hard to keep you down. I wonder if those same "confident" people attack almost everyone just to bolster that self-confidence which is as frail as an eggshell?

Humans are weird. ;)



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09 Jun 2012, 11:10 pm

Kinme wrote:
Joker wrote:
I am a manly man.


I bet I'm manlier than you! :o


I bet not :lol:



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10 Jun 2012, 6:13 am

JanuaryMan wrote:
Kinme wrote:
I'm man enough.


So what does that make Scuba :o


Happy?



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10 Jun 2012, 6:48 am

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Ask yourself this: When was the last time you had a cheeseburger? Had sex? Played in virile, manly sports like wrestling? Held a riffle and shot a deer? Drank a beer? Farted or belched loudly in the company of others? Left the toilet seat up? If not, what are you waiting for?


You forgot to add a pick up truck, mutton chops and a confederate Southern cross flag.



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10 Jun 2012, 7:29 am

I think I'm too manly. :D



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10 Jun 2012, 7:43 am

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For males with Asperger's syndrome, I think part of the problem is that some of us are not man enough; I don't mean this as an insult or criticism but as simple fact: Because of sexual selection, women desire a man who is, well, a man. Androgyny, effeminacy, and other qualities detract from a male's essential manliness and are like stink lines drawn from such a person to a woman.

Ask yourself this: When was the last time you had a cheeseburger? Had sex? Played in virile, manly sports like wrestling? Held a riffle and shot a deer? Drank a beer? Farted or belched loudly in the company of others? Left the toilet seat up? If not, what are you waiting for?


Wow. And you do realize those man don't use aftershave, don't bath, don't cultivate themselves, etc. Who would want such a man? If your post is a joke, than well done it made me giggle a bit. If you're actually serious, which I doubt, than everything you said is false. I actually have experience with girls one girl I dated (only once) did like "manly" men, but comn farting? that's a major turn off. She said she likes men who know how to dress (and no, branches/leaves and bones do not count as dressing).

BTW, I am highly against shooting animals for "fun" or for the sport of it. That's disgusting to me.



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10 Jun 2012, 11:02 am

edgewaters wrote:
JanuaryMan wrote:
Kinme wrote:
I'm man enough.


So what does that make Scuba :o


Happy?


Fuzzy.



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10 Jun 2012, 11:03 am

Joker wrote:
Kinme wrote:
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I am a manly man.


I bet I'm manlier than you! :o


I bet not :lol:


I'm the manliest man... ever! I'm for rizzle.



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10 Jun 2012, 1:26 pm

BlueMax wrote:
I have to admit it's disturbing how much the average woman responds to confidence. The flip-side is that most super-confident men are also total anal orifices - but that doesn't seem to matter! So long as she feels the spark of excitement that comes from a macho-man...

[sigh] It's disheartening sometimes... it's hard to feel confident while so many people try so hard to keep you down. I wonder if those same "confident" people attack almost everyone just to bolster that self-confidence which is as frail as an eggshell?

Humans are weird. ;)


I have to agree with this--though I won't say that I know what the average woman is.

Some manly men are just dicks--but some aren't, I'm sure. I got into a relationship with an Eastern European guy who turned out to be semi-psychopathic. But yes--he could turn on the charm. He was athletic, drank beer, and liked to fix cars etc.

But I've also been attracted to my English professor who's balding, and very nerdy looking. And probably not manly at all by the OP definition. Yet he was confident.

But I don't think confidence as a personality trait is what is attractive. If you think about how confidence works in social interactions, it makes sense that confident people appear more attractive.

When you're feeling confident, you aren't afraid, so you're more likely to make a joke (attractive) or to focus on the other person (attractive). People like to feel interesting, and they like it when someone pays positive attention to them.

If you're all socially insecure, you're more likely to be thinking about how you look, how you sound--and afraid to show your true self. This isn't attractive to the other person because you're not being able to focus on them.

I've had problems with that myself. When I have a "crush" on a man, I tend to become acutely insecure around him. I won't speak. I won't look at him. I get all nervous looking--which is definitely not the way to communicate that I'm interested in him and want to give him positive attention.

And then, when I'm around men who I'm not crushing on, I can act normal and friendly--make jokes etc. And then they end up sometimes being interested--so it all works out very badly for me.

But humans are weird. And then there is the fact that psychopathic con-men can mimic charm and care for others, luring others in better than those men who do genuinely care, and lack the social awareness or the confidence to communicate their caring nature.

I think what the OP described though--the burping and wrestling in mud...that's not really that attractive to most women.



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10 Jun 2012, 7:02 pm

1000Knives wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
mv wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
nostromo wrote:
I had a cheeseburger last night, a really good gourmet one with pickles, dijonaise etc.

WTF is dijonaise? Fufu cheeseburgers don't count! :twisted:


Dijonaise is a spread that's a mix of dijon mustard and mayonnaise. Other than that, I got nuthin'. {'Cause I'm a woman.}

I suspected as much. Look, real men do not use dijonaise as a condiment. We don't use Dijon mustard, either; if we want to use mustard on our completely hetero weiners and buns, we use French's classic yellow mustard (Plochman's or Heinz is acceptable in a pinch, and any Jack Daniels mustard is acceptable automatically, but any mustard with a friggin' French flag on the bottle is too fufu). We never use mayonnaise because there's something slightly homoerotic about a man ingesting a white, creamy substance (see also Alfredo sauce, named after an Italian man named Alfred).

I pretend not to even know what Dijon mustard is when around other guys. This is part of the Man Code.


Bro, you gotta use the mustard that's brown and spicy, like Gulden's. Anything else is for meterosexuals. Seriously that's the only kinda mustard I like, though.


have either of you two had whole grain course ground dijon mustard from Trader Joes? That wll rip your head off. that should be added to the acceptable list of manly mustards.

btw this whole idea of manliness is most American. More French culture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WadTkRxeE5A

Kickboxing is certainly manly sport, but if you look at their clothes, it is simply unacceptable! No straight guy would ever wear what these French kickboxers wear. Never!

This whole manliness thing varies quite a big from culture to culture