Not having your life in order.
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Always found it odd that "sex" was placed on a level with things required to sustain individual biological life.
"Couldn't get any" has never been a COD that I've heard of.
I have "physiological", "love", and "self-actualization".
Interesting how some, like "morality" and "family" are on two different levels.
Can I skip two spaces if I roll snake eyes?
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"Couldn't get any" has never been a COD that I've heard of.
I have "physiological", "love", and "self-actualization".
Interesting how some, like "morality" and "family" are on two different levels.
Can I skip two spaces if I roll snake eyes?
I've found sex being at the bottom of the pyramid seems to apply more to the dregs of society. Remember this is a list of needs rather than an essential order of things to progress one's life. Psychologically most of us are having our needs met probably up to and around the middle tier, taking sex and intimacy out of the equation of course. This would apply to the OP.
I have the top tier and I still feel like s**t most of the time.
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"Couldn't get any" has never been a COD that I've heard of.
I have "physiological", "love", and "self-actualization".
Interesting how some, like "morality" and "family" are on two different levels.
Can I skip two spaces if I roll snake eyes?
I've found sex being at the bottom of the pyramid seems to apply more to the dregs of society. Remember this is a list of needs rather than an essential order of things to progress one's life. Psychologically most of us are having our needs met probably up to and around the middle tier, taking sex and intimacy out of the equation of course. This would apply to the OP.
It's actually one of many theories of psycho-social development, and in keeping with that, it DOES involve a progression of stages, in this case, motivation. One can't very well be artistic or individualistic when your time and energy is spent on basic survival needs, for instance.
Interestingly, Maslow believed in positive psychology, and so he studied not the "dregs", but healthy students, in college.
I agree with you more, though, hence why I find the pyramid bizarre.
Homeostasis (for instance, CO2 vs. blood oxygen levels) absent, a person DIES. With sex, not so much. I understand it can deeply impact someone's self esteem and feeling, but it's placement at the bottom seems wrong.
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"Such is the Frailty
of the human Heart, that very few Men, who have no Property, have any Judgment of their own.
They talk and vote as they are directed by Some Man of Property, who has attached their Minds
to his Interest."
It makes me wonder if something was lost in translation... after all, "sexual intimacy" is up there in the right place.
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It makes me wonder if something was lost in translation... after all, "sexual intimacy" is up there in the right place.
BY JOVE, you're right.
Yeah. Confuzzling.
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"Such is the Frailty
of the human Heart, that very few Men, who have no Property, have any Judgment of their own.
They talk and vote as they are directed by Some Man of Property, who has attached their Minds
to his Interest."
Maybe by "sex" he meant things like one-night stands, which would not have the same level of intimacy implied in the third tier?
Without wanting to get this topic moved to the Adult section, but maybe Maslow was trying to say that, while people need love, their need to "tap that" is much stronger and more "basic".
Of course, he should have considered asexual people too.
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Hmmm... some sort of base gender determination? The organs themselves? Or in the sense it was required to create YOU, thus it had to be there somewhere - plus also required to create someone else. [shrug]

That or Maslow was just horny.
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Hmmm... some sort of base gender determination? The organs themselves? Or in the sense it was required to create YOU, thus it had to be there somewhere - plus also required to create someone else. [shrug]

That or Maslow was just horny.
Even today (I say this from experience) psychologists aren't on board with the whole asexual thing,
so I doubt they were in Maslow's day, in his defense. Even Kinsey didn't know how to categorize them on his whole sexuality "scale".
The other needs are individual ones, not for species (obviously, smex is needed to keep a sexually reproducing bunch going).
I think maybe you hit the nail on the head!
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of the human Heart, that very few Men, who have no Property, have any Judgment of their own.
They talk and vote as they are directed by Some Man of Property, who has attached their Minds
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that hierarchy of needs is kinda horse hockey...
it dehumanizes people/communities in poverty/need and it's been torn apart for ages for this and other reasons
people still desire love and self-actualization when they're starving, when they're cold
some people have no desire for sex
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If you skip levels - you still have needs going unfulfilled. That will have an effect on you.
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My life is literally and figuratively a complete mess. And my thought process is, why should I bring a girl into my mess of a life? I denied myself to one girl I really liked, and she married someone else and I felt bad about it, but my logical thought process during this time was basically this. My life is too screwed up to allow a romantic relationship. And so, in my dealings with females, despite my normal NVLD/Aspergers dumbness I have with everyone (which I guess to some people is charming in a strange way) I sorta purposely set myself up to like, not get into romantic relationships for the reason of me not being like, perfect yet. I don't know really. I don't like the idea of like, hmm, how do I put this....being a loser boyfriend? A girl bringing me home to her parents and "So what do you do..." "uh....well, I....." Things like that. Like I can't see it like, logical, for a girl to like me. I can't think of really anything positive I'd add to the girl's life, and I'd feel like a leech, if you would. Maybe this is my like, old fashioned imagery of a man being a "provider" so to speak for the woman, too.
Logically, in my mind, I say "now isn't a good time for a girlfriend, fix things up and go back to it" but then in the rest of my life, I start things completely at "wrong" times. For example, I decided I was going to learn figure skating just through sheer brute force and effort, without a coach, etc, just all by myself. It's a pretty asinine thing to do, but somehow my "faith" in it made it work somewhat. Same with lots of things. At the same time, I've had lots of failures and slow progress due to not having, well, proper equipment and things "in order." But if I wait for a good time, there could never be a good time? I've been waiting for a good time since middle school, really, and the times seem to only get worse for the most part.
Maybe this is an error in perceptions on my part, too. Like, perfectionism. Like I can't consider myself a "good" figure skater, or a "good" weightlifter or a "good" mechanic, simply because I'm not at a high level in either of them. Compared to an average person, I'm better, but compared to like, a "professional" at them, I'm bad. But I compare myself to the "professionals." Instead of saying "Wow, you can do 3 turns and waltz jumps figure skating" I think "Why can't you do an axel yet? Why can't you spin, you have bad left backward crossovers." People even compliment me on these things, and I'm sorta confused, as I don't see myself as "good" at them, and see every error I make. In things like cars, many times I can pull off repairing other people's cars, but my own stay in my garage broken. But people still hire me as a mechanic? Why? And it makes me so mad when things aren't, well, some people would say this is perfectionism, but...when things aren't as they should. I did some brakes, bled them like 3 times, still a sort of soft pedal at the end. The guy's wife said she didn't like the brakes, he said they were fine for him. For me, I would have literally stayed up til midnight or 1am bleeding brakes until they felt perfect to me. I feel like this is the only way to succeed in life, to be endlessly self critical, because if you're not, you're just basically being lazy.
Like, I'm around a fair amount of girls, due to my hobbies, but I don't allow myself to get close to any of them, due to my insecurities, which I perceive as being, well, logical insecurities. The problem is less a matter of all girls hating me or whatever, and more just me not feeling like I should even be in a relationship at all because of all my problems. Does anyone else deal with anything like this?
this goes to show that guys are held to higher standards than girls are
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