Women who throw themselves at men on dating sites
I've only had it happen a few times and, yes, they're types I find ugly, and just as importantly, really incompatible in other ways (for instance one talked only about going to church and her religion, even though I'm listed as agnostic and mention nothing religiously oriented on my profile.
Like wtfid2, I'm not willing to pursue those kind of girls online. I've talked to girls I found quite unattractive in real life, because it seemed we got along better than I would with most girls. But I'm getting warier about that even, now that it's ended badly when such girls have developed strong crushes on me. But online, where I'd need to drive way out of my way just to meet them for coffee or something, I see no point.
Quite some people have said I'm too good-looking to not have women interested in me, and I don't expect women to be perfect. I don't care about how they dress or whether they put makeup on, in fact that can easily go too far. But there are two areas where I really have a hard time compromising, and that is that I like very childlike, soft features, and also that I wants someone playful and imaginative, with a sense of wonder.
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yes... all of the above
Again I want to emphasize that I'm not as shallow as this thread might make me seem, but as a guy I need to feel at least a little attracted to her
And overweight doesn't really bother me that much... I have seen many overweight women who were attractive, but there is a difference between overweight and obese
Ah... here we go again... desperate guy won't give desperate women a chance...
"I'm not shallow or anything, I just won't get to know someone if the sight of her doesn't give me insta-boner."
Few things wrong with this.
1. He never said anything that even remotely implied that he's desperate.
2. You can't really control who you're attracted to (to some degree)
3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a guy who can find datable qualities in most women, but then those women turn you down and you're left with the dregs? That is the most frustrating thing ever, and I can tell by your response that you have never had this happen before. It has nothing to do with being desperate, and guess what, if you're not attracted to the woman and you go out with them, you're a cad and deserve what you get.
Also, sbarne, ignore the people who are calling you ugly. You're better looking than me, so you have a much better chance of finding someone.
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I just decided to go ahead and take my pic down... that way it's no longer a topic for discussion...

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thanks...

I just decided to go ahead and take my pic down... that way it's no longer a topic for discussion...

With all due respect, I don't think you'd have any pride if you had people telling you you weren't a looker. Just saying.
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I just decided to go ahead and take my pic down... that way it's no longer a topic for discussion...

With all due respect, I don't think you'd have any pride if you had people telling you you weren't a looker. Just saying.
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yes... all of the above
Again I want to emphasize that I'm not as shallow as this thread might make me seem, but as a guy I need to feel at least a little attracted to her
And overweight doesn't really bother me that much... I have seen many overweight women who were attractive, but there is a difference between overweight and obese
Ah... here we go again... desperate guy won't give desperate women a chance...
"I'm not shallow or anything, I just won't get to know someone if the sight of her doesn't give me insta-boner."
Why you're assuming he's desperate or that he's that picky?
Well, if he wasn't desperate, he'd probably be out enjoying himself with a woman instead of coming here to complain that he can't find what he wants. And in all honesty, like everybody else who starts a thread similar to this, he's NOT desperate, but he IS totally unwilling to take what he can get. Am I the only one who remembers the phrase: "Beggars can't be choosers?"
I wouldn't be so critical of these people if perhaps their complaint wasn't that the girls who try to talk to them are ugly... That's f*****g rude to say about someone, and physical appearance shouldn't be everyone's top priority in finding a potential mate... I always hear aspies talk about how if people would just give them chances, they could prove themselves, but they're never given chances or accommodations to where they CAN succeed... Then here they are, in the love & dating section, complaining about "ugly" people to whom they won't give chances based on appearance alone. That's f****d up and hypocritical. I can't possibly be the only one to see that, but these threads just keep popping up with the same damn scenarios...
I have definitely been one of those guys, who was so desperate to satisfy my curiosity about sexual things that I said "yes" to girls I was very much not attracted to. Though I never told them that I found them attractive, in fact they knew I wasn't attracted, but they were desperate and/or so into me that they still wanted me. Though it ended up being bad for them, and mostly bad for me, too. I hope to actually find someone I have feelings for and it's mutual sometime.
yes... all of the above
Again I want to emphasize that I'm not as shallow as this thread might make me seem, but as a guy I need to feel at least a little attracted to her
And overweight doesn't really bother me that much... I have seen many overweight women who were attractive, but there is a difference between overweight and obese
Ah... here we go again... desperate guy won't give desperate women a chance...
"I'm not shallow or anything, I just won't get to know someone if the sight of her doesn't give me insta-boner."
Few things wrong with this.
1. He never said anything that even remotely implied that he's desperate.
2. You can't really control who you're attracted to (to some degree)
3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a guy who can find datable qualities in most women, but then those women turn you down and you're left with the dregs? That is the most frustrating thing ever, and I can tell by your response that you have never had this happen before. It has nothing to do with being desperate, and guess what, if you're not attracted to the woman and you go out with them, you're a cad and deserve what you get.
Also, sbarne, ignore the people who are calling you ugly. You're better looking than me, so you have a much better chance of finding someone.
1. He's forced to use a dating site, and he can't find what he wants. That sounds like desperation to me, cuz now he's asking for advice on the forum.
2. No you can't, but once you actually get out and date, you'll start to quickly change your priorities. I used to think I wanted to find basically a female clone of me(as far as personality and interests are concerned), and in my pursuit of that, I kept ending up with nothing but psychos. I met one girl who literally had penis envy, another who would complain that I was too touchy feely, but then in the middle of the night, she pulled me on top of her to have sex with her(what she called angry sex, which was in direct response to me touching her too much), and another one who just wanted a free ride. Also, beauty fades with time anyway. I'm not attracted to physical beauty. I'm attracted to personality. Also, most people seem to think beautiful and anorexic are synonyms. I like my girls to have some meat on their bones.
3. I wouldn't date a woman I wasn't attracted to either, but I also base attraction on things beyond appearance. And how would you like to be referred to as a "dreg?" How would you like to be considered not worthy dating material just because of the way you look?
Also, LOL, I've never had it happen to me? Do you think I'm dating Pamela f*****g Anderson(or whoever the hell people consider "hot" these days)? I'm not gonna sit here and call my girlfriend ugly because she's beautiful to me, but at the same time, I'll acknowledge most people probably wouldn't pick her out of a crowd. And you know what? That's fine with me because she's mine, and I'm not sharing. Also, what the rest of the world thinks about her looks means f**k all.
Oh, and you have no idea how frustrating it is for me to sit here and read thru all these crazy complaints from guys who totally could go out on dates and at least get experience so they learn not to be so awkward and whatnot, but they won't even give it a chance because the girl that likes them isn't in tune with some idealistic fairy tale idea of what kind of girl they deserve... It's also frustrating to sit here and listen to the way they talk about the girls they won't give chances to, complaining about them being fat and ugly while being all "woe is me, why won't anyone take pity on me and go out with me?" If I can do it, so can anybody else here.
I think maybe I should just stop wasting my breath trying to give advice and instead gloat about my dating success since nobody listens anyway. You know what? I think I now understand why so little sympathy is given to the male virgins around here... More likely than not, the women who don't care/dislike threads similar to this have already tried sending the message I've been sending, and it was all just a futile effort.

I think you may be right
Usually they seem like a nice person, but there is no attraction there.
I mean looks aren't everything for sure and I think I could learn to love just about anyone given enough time, but if there is no attraction at all then it is difficult to get things going.
So if someone you find very attractive did the same, it wouldn't be a problem?
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2. No you can't, but once you actually get out and date, you'll start to quickly change your priorities. I used to think I wanted to find basically a female clone of me(as far as personality and interests are concerned), and in my pursuit of that, I kept ending up with nothing but psychos. I met one girl who literally had penis envy, another who would complain that I was too touchy feely, but then in the middle of the night, she pulled me on top of her to have sex with her(what she called angry sex, which was in direct response to me touching her too much), and another one who just wanted a free ride. Also, beauty fades with time anyway. I'm not attracted to physical beauty. I'm attracted to personality. Also, most people seem to think beautiful and anorexic are synonyms. I like my girls to have some meat on their bones.
3. I wouldn't date a woman I wasn't attracted to either, but I also base attraction on things beyond appearance. And how would you like to be referred to as a "dreg?" How would you like to be considered not worthy dating material just because of the way you look?
1. I still don't see where he said he's "forced" to use a dating website. Some people do that instead of looking around in real life. Asking for advice on a forum isn't a desperate measure at all unless they ask in a certain way. If he'd said "OH I'M SO RANDY, WHERE CAN I FIND A GIRL TO GET ME OFF?!" then yeah that would have been desperate lol.
2. Well, that's you. I know what I want, which isn't a whole lot, but just can't get it. Why is it that the LEAST picky guys get thrown into dumb situations, while the ultra-picky ones get what they want, despite having stupid reasons to reject people? I don't think it has much to do with standards, either. Though I'm not that picky, my standards are about at the middle level, at least personality-wise.
3. I actually didn't even know he was referring to looks at first. I had to read his post again to see that. But I can tell you in my opinion girls with terrible personalities are "dregs" and not necessarily the so-called "unattractive-looking" ones. So please don't lump me into that category. I've liked plenty of girls where other guys were like "you like HER?!" like this girl at work who is on the heavier side to put it nicely. But I liked her, I thought she was really cute, mainly because of her smile and personality. In fact if circumstances weren't in the way I might have actually tried to ask her out one of these days. But I already know I'd get rejected, so eh. The irony in my case is I have had a girl attracted to me (or so she said) who other guys would have pounced on right away just because of how she looked. But because she was so annoying to me, and mean, and not very smart, I gave her a pass. This led to my sexuality being questioned for the next month though.

And you know what? I've been considered not dating material PLENTY OF TIMES for the way I look, or have you not read my posts? That's why I try not to judge on looks. Like I mentioned before, I've liked girls other guys thought were ugly. It's funny how backwards the whole thing is. I don't care about looks too much but every woman alive cares about mine? It's even worse because I get complimented a lot. Things like being called sweet, smart, manly, good with kids, etc. but yet not one girlfriend, because my looks are holding me back. Meanwhile Johnny Prettyface can just go up to whichever girl he wants and blink at them and he's got 'em, just because he's handsome. A lot of the time, guys like that have nothing going for them otherwise.

Irrelevant. Your g/f is actually better than average looks-wise. Maybe I could take this part of the post seriously if she wasn't cute. I'm sure she'd like that according to this, you don't really consider her "hot" lol.

The bolded part makes no sense to me. You seem like a perfectly normal guy in all ways, including looks-wise. So why say something like that when there are guys that are 100 times worse than you are?

I still stand by my point, even though I don't agree with downing someone because of looks, if you're not attracted, you're not attracted. What good is "getting experience" from someone you're not attracted to? All it'll do is hurt you and more importantly, hurt the other person. That's some first-grade mindgame BS. If some girl tried to date me just for "experience," not because they actually liked me, and I found out, I'd be livid, and with good reason. Why advocate that? It's worse than just being honest and saying "you're not my type."
Nice hypocrisy, though, when you said something about me calling some girls "dregs" when you've repeatedly railed on a lot of the women here and cussed at 'em and such. I don't know what you're trying to prove by posting that picture again either. I know you're the Nintendo Kid, but there are guys 5 times geekier than you who can get dates (even though in those cases it's luck). Besides, Nintendo is cool anyway. Even if some people had assumed you were a virgin at the time from that picture, a bunch would have saluted you for it as well. Being the Nintendo Kid is better than being some ugly dude with bad luck like me.
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Wow
Do I know how to stir things up or what?
Ok... everyone back into their own corner.
Here's a funny pic to lighten the mood...
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