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04 Feb 2013, 8:34 am

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Tyri0n, you may connect well to some people with the disorder, but i would caution you to not assume that they are all the same sort of person. they are as individual as aspies are. many also have "downs" as well as "ups", so you'd potentially be dealing with someone who has periods of withdrawal, depression, etc.

and on an "up", some people with bipolar disorder can be a lot more extreme than you might imagine (delusions, halluciations, rage), so i'd advise you to seek more information before fetishing people with the diagnosis. there are lots of people with more mild cases as it is a kind of spectrum as well.

most people with the disorder spend a lot of time in a neutral mood, so they are usually like the rest of us. for that reason, it's not a great idea to seek out a person with the disorder for the primary purpose of experiencing the person's manic moods because that part is not how the person spends the majority of their time.

you might actually prefer to simply find a high energy, bubbly sort of person.


Unfortunately, an NT high energy, bubbly sort of person is probably not "damaged" enough to be a good match for me, the autistic. :-) We are--or at least I am-- largely stuck with those no one else wants to date. I feel like I drastically underperform my looks and situation in life due to my condition. So why not find someone who is in the same situation? Then we can both make each other look good when we go out in public.

I'd rather date a girl whom no one decent wants to date because of bipolar disorder rather than, say, because of looks, or a boring personality.

If I am attracted to another type of neurodiversity, why not go with it? There seems to be a lot of unjustified prejudice even here--on Wrong Planet-- which, ironically, probably indicates that my idea has a high chance of success.



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04 Feb 2013, 8:55 am

i don't think people with bipolar disorder necessarily have a difficult time finding dates, so painting them as leftovers that nobody decent would want to date is not necessarily accurate. i think that some of them may have trouble with maintaining relationships as there are unique issues that could challenge their partners in some cases (i.e. erratic behaviour could lead to cheating or instability in a manic phase), but they aren't unattractive to people across the board.


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04 Feb 2013, 9:27 am

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i don't think people with bipolar disorder necessarily have a difficult time finding dates, so painting them as leftovers that nobody decent would want to date is not necessarily accurate. i think that some of them may have trouble with maintaining relationships as there are unique issues that could challenge their partners in some cases (i.e. erratic behaviour could lead to cheating or instability in a manic phase), but they aren't unattractive to people across the board.


You're right. Painting a whole group of people as "leftovers" is probably not fair either. But non-NT people--whether that means Asperger's, bipolar, BPD, or something else--do have challenges in the dating world -- possibly quite similar challenges.

But it's not just that. It's also about finding tolerant people.

Don't you think that people with disabilities are more likely to be accepting of others with different disabilities than is the general population?



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04 Feb 2013, 9:55 am

I have mild bi- polar,only hypomania.But now they think maybe not,they would like to do some neurological testing but my insurance may not pay,and it's a three hours drive.
Bi -polar never explained it all,one doctor said HFA but no definite diagnosis.But they are leaning that way.
All the people I have been close to have had other mental issues,I do think there is more understanding and allowances made for the different challenges we face.
It's hard for someone who has never been severly depressed to understand what it is like.
I think they get frustrated when they try to cheer you up to no avail.
When you feel like all the rocks in the universe are piled on top of you no one can remove them,no matter how hard they try,you can't even move them yourself.


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04 Feb 2013, 1:35 pm

I could never date a normal person. They wouldn't be interested in me anyway and shun me. I would only feel comfortable around someone that's broken. In fact that's what my past has been like. All the people I did hang out with were broken. D had Asperger's. P was short. not good looking and barely spoke English. B was just plain weird and was probably schizophrenic. J had an incredible limp you can see from a mile away and her eyes moved uncontrollably because of nystagmus. A was a no teeth homeless crackhead who stole my wallet when I was asleep. Come to think of it, I've probably never hanged out with one normal person in my whole life. Even those who looked normal had some kind of issue or issues.



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04 Feb 2013, 3:44 pm

Finally, some sympathetic comments that are not judgmental or dismissive. For those open to giving constructive advice, what should I do to act on this insight?

In my current environment, I'm at a top law school, which primarily attracts well-adjusted, normal white kids from the upper middle class suburbs. I'm probably not going to find what I'm looking for in this social group. So alternatives?



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04 Feb 2013, 4:01 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
Finally, some sympathetic comments that are not judgmental or dismissive. For those open to giving constructive advice, what should I do to act on this insight?

In my current environment, I'm at a top law school, which primarily attracts well-adjusted, normal white kids from the upper middle class suburbs. I'm probably not going to find what I'm looking for in this social group. So alternatives?
Perhaps another aspie would suffice or someone with mild bpd or someone with ADD or ADHD. Maybe even someone with tourrettes. Or just an accepting NT imo a good place to meet other aspies and the like are at conventions such as sci fi anime star trek etc!


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04 Feb 2013, 4:08 pm

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Tyri0n wrote:
Finally, some sympathetic comments that are not judgmental or dismissive. For those open to giving constructive advice, what should I do to act on this insight?

In my current environment, I'm at a top law school, which primarily attracts well-adjusted, normal white kids from the upper middle class suburbs. I'm probably not going to find what I'm looking for in this social group. So alternatives?
Perhaps another aspie would suffice or someone with mild bpd or someone with ADD or ADHD. Maybe even someone with tourrettes. Or just an accepting NT imo a good place to meet other aspies and the like are at conventions such as sci fi anime star trek etc!


Well, how would one go about identifying bipolar girls or whatever?

I'm not really attracted to the usual manifestation of aspie traits. I like girls who are artsy and have strong, loud personalities, and who are pretty emotional. Not going to find aspies (with some exceptions, of course), or even many accepting NT's, like that. I would consider tourettes. I haven't ever met anyone with that though. Not sure about ADD either. I thought it was pretty common, and minor.

I may be the exception in that I really love teasing and sarcasm, both giving it and receiving it. Isn't it hard to find aspies like this?



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04 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

Try the art students :lol:


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04 Feb 2013, 4:13 pm

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Try the art students :lol:


I am going to be taking an acting class, probably for as long as I'm here, so that is quite possible.

What else should I do?



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04 Feb 2013, 4:13 pm

A clingy woman whos always very moody?


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04 Feb 2013, 4:20 pm

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A clingy woman whos always very moody?


Depends. These traits can be annoying, but also lovable, depending on how they are manifested and how extreme they are. Anything taken to a certain extreme makes a relationship unworkable. Many flaws in small or moderate doses are attractive to some people. It would depend on how into the girl I am too.

FYI, I think a lot of aspie guys are clingy and moody.

I've previously dumped girls I was dating for not being exciting enough, and for not teasing me enough (I think being teased back really gives me energy for some reason...), never for being too moody.

Guess I'm not a typical aspie.



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04 Feb 2013, 4:29 pm

You should read Kay Redfield Jamison's book,Touched With Fire.
There is a down side,hope you like roller coasters.


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04 Feb 2013, 4:34 pm

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You should read Kay Redfield Jamison's book,Touched With Fire.
There is a down side,hope you like roller coasters.


Kind of do to be honest...

Like I said, I'm not a typical aspie. I like experiencing new things and lots of change (in some areas). I just get little opportunity for this because of my ASD and social anxiety. Maybe ASD is a faulty diagnosis? Dunno.



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04 Feb 2013, 5:02 pm

For anyone who wants the real facts on Manic-Depressive Illness read,

Manic -Depressive Illness by
Dr.Frederick K. Goodwin M.D.
Adm.Alcohol,drug abuse and Mental health Administration
Senior Investigator NIMH
And
Dr.Kay Redfield Jamison Ph.d
Assoc. Prof. Of Psychiatry John Hopkins

Dr.Jamison is also Manic-Depressive.


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04 Feb 2013, 5:08 pm

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