we need single pride

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Also there's a difference between choosing single life (and may include active sexual life still) and involuntary celibacy. Most males here fall in the latter, while the "pride group" should solely for the former type.

Not against 'pride groups' in general.

But one for singles is absurd because singles arent marginalized in quite the same way as other groups (like lesbians, or racial minorities, etc).

Besides- the issue is not 'being single', its whether or not you want to have kids.

Semantically, I'm not convinced there's anything here to bicker about. Anyone single is simply looking for equal respect to those who aren't.

Surely a group for singletons effectively leads to more segregation? Being single is a state of being, at a given point in time and although a lifestyle choice for some most people do not remain single at some point.

The only situation where I could see a pride group for single people is one involving single mothers and being proud of bringing up kids despite the adversity or whatever/more of a support group, just an example...

Those who are 100% happy in being alone probably don't need to identify with others or the support . Those who are alone and don't want to be, need help in meeting people not a celebration of their lonliness.

So if there was a "singles pride" group, how many of the members would hook up with each other? Would they then be kicked out of the group?

The solution to this would be a "no fraternization" policy similar to Army basic training.

Ha ha, maybe they are simple guys. But their attittude seems a bit different to others I know. They appear not to want to get "caught" or "trapped" and are very cautious about the women around them. Actually, I know another guy like that too. All the single guys I know are weird... and people wonder why I never go out with anyone. I feel like I shouldn't even bother with them. It's like I'm some sort of dreadful person trying to lure them into a trap. I keep meeting guys like this as well.

I've just realised something... It may be that they don't want to get hurt again and that's why they are cautious. It's all so complicated isn't it.

Because, the harsh truth is, at you age this is what left for you, the better guys are already taken.

The apple basket analogy: always the best apples are picked first.

Being single doesn't mean that you either
A. Die
B. Steal food.
C. Rely on others for support.

I am for a big cock pride group.

(I am sure I saw something like this in Japan on the net).

That's a bit harsh on the single middle age-ish dudes out there, but I've met some of them and you're preaching to the choir my friend.

Ok, so being single isn't an achievement when your doing what I currently do and not bothering to make an effort to date or avoiding other human beings in general.

But what if your only offers came from people you knew you would be unhappy with. This applies to male and female. You could have given in and just ended up with this person who you would have made miserable and who would have made you miserable. But you didn't conform to convention, you didn't do it because everyone else is doing it and you proudly said, "I'd rather by lonely and hope to find someone compatible than be married to someone who I'm miserable with." Isn't that strength of character something to be proud of?

Better to be unhappily single than unhappily married, or so they say...

Myself included, I was being harsh on my self too.



Yes, it is not.




No venture no gain, I wanna risk it and experience it before making this conclusion.




They also say "Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all ".

My parents were unhappily married. It's a hell I don't want part of. My first relationship was with someone manipulative and emotionally abusive, so that's made me wary too. I don't want to be trapped in an abusive relationship again.

I do think that staying true to yourself takes strength, no one should feel pressured to have a relationship/get married if they aren't ready or haven't found a compatible person. It's this pressure to conform that I'm speaking out against. I fear that people I know got married too young before they even knew who they were and are now unhappy. I wonder if they would be happier single. I wonder if they got married because they thought it was what was expected of them. You meet someone, you fall in love, you get married, you have kids. That's the norm. The norm doesn't work for me (or rather it didn't work out for me that way) and I appreciate my freedom.

On the other hand I accept that it also takes strength to acommodate someone else and let them into your life. So, there is no right way to do things, but divorce is expensive... I'd rather be careful.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I do understand what you're saying. A few people I know had marriages that broke up over the past few years and they said, "don't bother it's not worth it." But I would rather experience something rather than go all my life wondering what might have been if only I took a chance. I know someone who's husband left her for someone else who says they don't regret a thing. They did the best they could with their life and now have a beautiful child out of it.

You're making assumptions that I don't think are true (unless they explicitly said what you're saying about them).

But I'll make my own assumptions about your situation now by stating that it's probably you make excuses for not dating guys that seem like they may be good dating/relationship material. You seem to be looking for that perfect guy who matches your ex-boyfriend or guy of your dreams who you know you could never attain.

Thank you, that means you assume that someone would want to spend time with me
In truth there is something about me that puts guys off. I'm not sure what it is. If I was on the outside looking in I would see it, but being me I don't know what it is. I used to be very opinionated and arrogant, I keep my mouth shut now, maybe I'm too quiet now. LOL To be honest I'd go out with either of them if they did actually ask me for a coffee. I have a gut feeling both would knock me back if I asked. One ignored my friend request on Facebook. (btw I don't object to men spending time with friends or playing soccer - just in case you think I'm a control freak!)

The unattainable man of my dreams is a man that wants to talk to me and that I just get on with and can talk to easily. Such creatures only seem to be married.

See, I've told you so.

I remember I once suggested to you men that happen to be submissive. You said you wanted someone on equal grounds with you not someone who was submissive. Yet submissive men fit the characteristics of your dream man mentioned above.

Personally, I cannot understand why an independent woman like you, who doesn't need to rely on any man but just wants a partner to spend her time with romantically, would not accept a submissive man to have a relationship with. Men don't seem to mind dating submissive women. I don't see why the same cannot apply for women like you. Nor do I see how "dismissing" them is worth not having a relationship at all especially if they make sure to be pleasing to you emotionally, romantically, and/or sexually.