How would your dream guy/woman be like?
Her pureness, impossible to contain
And yet, her heart, therein lies perfection
to an extent man could never attain
There is nothing more pure than her true soul
Except to God she never bows her head
Without woman no man's heart can be whole
without her one might just as well be dead
She seeks neither to lead nor to be led
She seeks only to do what must be done
Her calming presence suppresses all dread
the love she gives can be second to none
She is well learned, her manner pedantic
although her heart is immeasurably kind
she's independent and she's romantic
her most appealing feature is her mind
Her smile's lovely and understated
She has amazing wit and a sharp tongue
Thirst for knowledge never satiated
Always wise in years, and in manner young
She has a laugh that tintinnabulates
She's smart and strong and independent too
her heavenly appearance radiates
and every word that leaves her lips is true
There is no treasure greater than her love
in lifelong union, true love is exchanged
a treasure gifted to you from above
he who claims to not want love is deranged
did you write this yourself? If so good job! : )
I am not going to go into the details, but in general....
Most Important:
The person MUST be someone who can tolerate my autism and flaws and help me with them rather than getting angry at me or trying to make me change into an NT.
I need someone who is nice, truthful, decent, loyal, caring, treats others with dignity, can tell right from wrong, does not demand perfection.
Preferably someone who is intelligent, and responsible, and someone who does not care about gender roles or stereotypes.
Someone who is not racist, sexist, homophobic or bigoted.
Preferred but not required:
I would prefer someone who is healthy, athletic and not obese, but it is not completely required.
It would be nice if the person was not ugly, but really it does not matter much.
Someone who likes to learn things, especially science.
Someone who likes some of the geeky stuff I like.
Her pureness, impossible to contain
And yet, her heart, therein lies perfection
to an extent man could never attain
There is nothing more pure than her true soul
Except to God she never bows her head
Without woman no man's heart can be whole
without her one might just as well be dead
She seeks neither to lead nor to be led
She seeks only to do what must be done
Her calming presence suppresses all dread
the love she gives can be second to none
She is well learned, her manner pedantic
although her heart is immeasurably kind
she's independent and she's romantic
her most appealing feature is her mind
Her smile's lovely and understated
She has amazing wit and a sharp tongue
Thirst for knowledge never satiated
Always wise in years, and in manner young
She has a laugh that tintinnabulates
She's smart and strong and independent too
her heavenly appearance radiates
and every word that leaves her lips is true
There is no treasure greater than her love
in lifelong union, true love is exchanged
a treasure gifted to you from above
he who claims to not want love is deranged
bro all you need to do is show girls your poetry. Believe it out not, some girls actually like guys who have a sensitive and poetic side. You kno your a poet if you say the word tintinnabulates in a sentence.
Yup. Thanks
Tintinnabulates is one of my favorite words
I am very private about my poetry though, I don't often show it to people in real life; I'm too shy
Only some of my poetry I'd post online
Only some of my poetry I'd post online
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Part of me thinks its sweet and all in fun, coming up with lists - I remember doing it. But part of me knows that it can lock some people in and interfere with finding the right person.
What I wish I knew in the days I made lists like that? That it is an exercise in futility to think about "ideal," and to have a list of any sort. I sort of knew, and yet I didn't, if that makes any sense. I was more locked off to life and its possibilities than I look back and feel I should have been.
Doing it for fun is doing it for fun, and fine, but what happens when it takes over as a goal?
I married my soul mate but I can't say that he looks a whole lot like I ever expected him to. Life long love has to address what you need more than what you want and, for those who are Christian, God seems to know that better than we do. Keeping an open mind is imminently helpful. That said, there can and should be deal breakers when it comes to knowing what you can and can't live with. Which is a little different, because it is circling about to what you need, and not just what you want.
And for marriage, those talking about being on the same page about kids - that is a MUST. I've known too many divorces over the issue. Blows my mind that someone could get married and not be on the same page about such an essential life decision. You can never expect someone to change their mind or just assume on this issue. Of course, you can't exactly bring it up in the early months of a relationship, either, but it does need to get addressed if things get serious.
Anyway, just my older married lady perspective on the list game. Carry on.
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Here is my problem. You don't sound like a man who wants a life-partner. And, well, all those terms you choose, you sound brainwashed. The women you describe with extreme dislike in your tone are an extreme rarity, and by starting with "liberal-nut" you sound condemning of everyone who is politically liberal, period. That kind of talk may appeal to men who think like you, but it does not usually appeal to women, and that includes those who otherwise do think like you. If you are willing to talk abusively about a whole group of women you don't know, how are you going to treat a wife? How are you going to talk to her when she does something you disagree with? Attack her like that? I have a very diverse group of friends, all sorts of religious and political beliefs, but if we heard a man a friend was dating talk like that, we'd counsel our friend against him. You want HER to be loving and caring and perceptive while not asking the same of yourself. That is not how you build the foundation to a marriage, and the type of talk does not seem very Christian to me, as in, "what would Jesus do?" Christian, not just what your local pastor tells you is Christian. Are we not asked to follow in the footsteps of Christ?
As for her helping you control yourself - not possible. You need to understand that is NOT HER JOB. I know this is just a wish list, and in a wish list you can dream all you want, but even wishing for that bothers me. Of course any women who wants to be a good partner is going to avoid dressing in ways that make you uncomfortable, or do things that make you uncomfortable; all you should have to do is let her know that it does just that. Once she knows, she would attempt to make choices that are more comfortable for you, because that is what couples do for each other. But you can't expect her to know it. And, more importantly, you need to understand this: when you are in love and waiting, EVERYTHING is sexy, and the bar is going to keep getting raised until she is wearing an iron maiden. Not practical and not happening. Which means that YOU have to keep your mind in control of your choices and actions, remembering why you made them. Strongly held values can and will stand strong in the face of all sorts of challenges, you just have to make that choice from day 1, and take responsibility for it without giving in to the unreal notion that women can do anything to control your desires.
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Yup. Thanks
Tintinnabulates is one of my favorite words
I am very private about my poetry though, I don't often show it to people in real life; I'm too shy
Only some of my poetry I'd post online
you should send me some of your stuff though! And I'll send you some of mine! I'm a writer as well. : )
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God, guns, and guts made America; let's keep all three.
Apparently the wrong term came to the tip of my tongue; I was picturing what may be called a chastity belt.
Do you know what I find sexiest in a man? HIS EYES. So, woah, got to keep those covered? When you are in love with someone, you get turned on by a whole lot of things that are not overtly sexual, and that is my point. It really won't make much difference to your self control if she dresses modestly or not (although it might to random stranger men). When love is not involved, anatomy can inspire lust. But when love IS involved, all she'll have to do is look at you a certain way. So, the concept of control has to come from someplace else.
As for speaking for most women, of course that is a personal perception. But I know a LOT of women, from a wide variety of beliefs and ideals, and we TALK. And I can place a pretty solid bet that I know more about how "most" women think that you do. Given that I am one of them
"Life partner" isn't a term suggesting living together or something other than marriage, it is a term suggesting that within whatever relationship you choose to have, INCLUDING and especially marriage, you will SHARE the best of yourselves, and make each other stronger. My husband helps me be my best self. THAT is a life partner. He doesn't order me around. He doesn't try to control me. He doesn't expect me to conform to his wishes or ideas. He SHARES his thoughts, his dreams, and what he wants, and I try to help him get there. And vice-a-versa. Give and take, yin and yang. Sometimes he is the strong one, sometimes he needs to fall apart a little and I have to be the strong one. We NEED that from each other, because sometimes life is incredibly difficult. I am really surprised that you jumped to the interpretation you did; have you that little understanding of what makes relationships REALLY work?
All the rest ... we could debate all night. But that isn't the purpose of this thread. I think, relationship wise, the above are the things I'd like you to see.
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Mom to an amazing young adult AS son, plus an also amazing non-AS daughter. Most likely part of the "Broader Autism Phenotype" (some traits).
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