Giving up
However, and I have said this before - you don't seem to like yourself a lot. You have been through a few things, yeah. But until you start genuinely liking yourself, you will either end up in bad situations, or not appreciate the good in any positive situations that you get into. It's simple - yet very few people grasp this! I read post after post of people who (no offence) put the cart before the horse. Neigh!
You can have the world, and a great guy/woman telling you great things about yourself, but what's it actually worth if you really don't like yourself? It's meaningless.
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If you don't believe in dragons it is curiously true, that the dragons you disparage choose to not believe in you.
Yeah, you didn't. I should have made it clear that I wasn't directly talking to you, sorry. From the post, it sounds like he meant well, but the road to hell and good intentions and all of that...
The rules? Go to amazon, type it in. Or google Ellen Fein. It'll give you another perspective, definitely. I warn against applying it rigidly. You might be screening out men who would be ideal for you - especially if you tend to wear your heart on your sleeve.
I would suggest, if you are going to still feel like you want a relationship with him, to cancel this film night on him - or postpone it for a while. It'll save any chance of a bad situation and a knock to your self-esteem when you need it the least. You might sleep with him (well I don't know what you're thinking, but I do know how 'most' men think) and be hurt when it doesn't lead to a relationship.
I'm glad you want to work on your positivity. Yes, it can be tough, but it is worth it if done in a meaningful way, and if you believe in its power. I see it this way - you can only give away what you have inside. If it's 40% love and 60% loathing, that's the best that somebody's got to offer...don't know about you, but that's not good enough for me!
If you don't like the feelings you have inside, chuck them out. How? Find a way. ![]()
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If you don't believe in dragons it is curiously true, that the dragons you disparage choose to not believe in you.
to da fellas who got all upity - you seem to have skipped my last sentence which should have been a fair enough indicator that I was joking earlier on.
However, I reserve to be an agist b***h if the mood strikes me, it's mah constitutional right
Also, I guarantee you that none of you would ever speak to me that way in person while I would never type anything that I wouldn't be willing and likely to say to person to their face.
This is the difference between wisdom that comes from age and the wisdom that comes from youthful bravado.
It could just mean that you're overly presumptuous, and like to pretend that you know how other people would behave even though you really don't.
Which has nothing to do with wisdom.
My, I just can not fathom how so many people managed not to notice the evident hilarity and amusing nature of your previous post....

Alycat, your problem is that you take every rejection, or break up, or whatever, as confirmation of how you feel about yourself. You believe yourself to only be good for sex. You believe you're ugly. You believe you're a bad person. I seem to remember telling you thousands of times that none of those statements are true, but you never believed me. So when we split up for many reasons, most of which were about my personality and not being able to give you the time and attention you deserved, you just took it as confirmation that how you feel about yourself is true. You seriously need to change how you think, for your own sake. Please. You are a wonderful person. I've seen the very best sides of you, and they are amazing. So please stop thinking you're a bad person, because you're a bloody saint compared to a lot of people
I don't know you alycat, but a short amount of time dealing with some other female with autism gives that a sound that rings true.
It's frustrating to deal with that situation if its true.
i think your main problems have nothing to do with other people.
theres probably nothing wrong with you at all, just the normal run of the mill things that are wrong with everyone, but you probably take it all too personally and emotionally.
just change the subject. think about something else for once. i dont mean that nastily, as you would probably take it if you're taking it emotionally, i mean just change the subject.
do some interesting things with your time instead of stewing. Women seem to do this thing with their lifes energy where they have no interests at all and spend every moment of their lives dwelling on human problems, inter-relational problems. Take a leaf out of the male book and spend some time doing just fun and meaningless things and living life for once.
laddo is right but i doubt u will take his word because when uve been involved with someone their words are loaded with extra meaning because of your history, you tend to add twists and turns to simple words. So take mine instead, as someone that doesnt know you, and pay attention to the actual words and nothing more, dont add meaning.
the girl i know adds a lot of extra things onto everything you say. She second guesses EVERYTHING. Stop adding complexity to human problems. Think simply. Don't add drama. He says you're a wonderful person so believe it.
and whats wrong with a guy wanting only you for your body you write as if this is a bad thing, at least they want you for something !
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Theirs a subset of America, adult males who are forgoing ambition ,sex , money ,love ,adventure to sit in a darkened rooms mastering video games - Suicide Bob
It's frustrating to deal with that situation if its true.
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If you don't believe in dragons it is curiously true, that the dragons you disparage choose to not believe in you.
It's frustrating to deal with that situation if its true.
that you're too negative and focus on the wrong things
lol, laddo said you take the negative of everything and you prove it with everything you say. you dont take from this my message to stop being negative, you only take that ive criticised you. Your problem isnt other people.
Even when people try to be nice you take it badly. you can never be nice to you because you twist things around to suit your own agenda, which is making yourself feel bad.
the person i know is just the same. She spends too much time being influenced by her emotions, which are probably entirely chemical and hormonal in nature rather than reality.
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Yup... literally every single woman is some kind of relationship obsessive with zero hobbies or interests, and they just sit about navel-gazing while dwelling on the woes of the world. Just like every single man in the entire universe is really just hankering to get his end away when he decides to befriend a woman.
You mean... you never knew this ?
Well, I guess we have both learned something new today....
You mean... you never knew this ? Well, I guess we have both learned something new today....
nah, i wouldnt agree with that completely, sarcastic or not. i know some extremely logical females, and i know some entirely sexually uninterested males.
but recognising that both sexes have a pull towards those directions isnt always a bad thing.
when i was 20 and feeling suicidal, realising that it was probably more to do with chemicals in my brain than an actual bad situation had a lot to do with pulling me out of it. emotions are entirely untrustworthy at times.
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If you don't believe in dragons it is curiously true, that the dragons you disparage choose to not believe in you.
You mean... you never knew this ? Well, I guess we have both learned something new today....
nah, i wouldnt agree with that completely, sarcastic or not. i know some extremely logical females, and i know some entirely sexually uninterested males.
And yet earlier in the thread:
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If you don't believe in dragons it is curiously true, that the dragons you disparage choose to not believe in you.
i go back to the piece of advice i heard earlier in the night.
never reason with a fool.
Sorry but theres no point in me posting in this thread. you cant use logic to solve emotional problems.
i am offended that my logic and reason is received as insulting. i clearly shouldnt have bothered.
self discipline is the only thing you're missing.
this probably comes across as completely insulting even if its just cold logic. Using the word fool is a big no no with an emotional person but hey, im just me, passing on information unemotionally and getting it received via emotions.
at least now i recognise what i did wrong with the girl i know.
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you argue on technicalities too much. emotional reasoning at its best.
apologies to any forum mod that thinks ive been too harsh, i never meant to cause problems. I just have to answer the questions im asked in the best way i can/ need closure, i never intended to get into something where being brutally honest would offend. i wont post in this thread any more.
never reason with a fool.
Sorry but theres no point in me posting in this thread. you cant use logic to solve emotional problems.
i am offended that my logic and reason is received as insulting. i clearly shouldnt have bothered.
self discipline is the only thing you're missing.
this probably comes across as completely insulting even if its just cold logic. Using the word fool is a big no no with an emotional person but hey, im just me, passing on information unemotionally and getting it received via emotions.
at least now i recognise what i did wrong with the girl i know.
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you argue on technicalities too much. emotional reasoning at its best.
apologies to any forum mod that thinks ive been too harsh, i never meant to cause problems. I just have to answer the questions im asked in the best way i can/ need closure, i never intended to get into something where being brutally honest would offend. i wont post in this thread any more.
It wasn't a technicality, it was you contradicting yourself.
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If you don't believe in dragons it is curiously true, that the dragons you disparage choose to not believe in you.
i dont want to argue like this. generalised advice taken the wrong way is a boring waste of life.
