why don't girls make the first move?

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Ladywoofwoof
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01 Dec 2013, 9:44 pm

Often no it's not, and amazingly enough not every woman wishes to leap into bed and start shagging a guy who they barely know.
Why is this so confusing for you ?



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01 Dec 2013, 9:53 pm

Ladywoofwoof wrote:
. . . amazingly enough not every woman wishes to leap into bed and start shagging a guy who they barely know.


and herein lies the problem. The polar opposites.

Guys think " free shagging", girls think "buy me things but don't touch me".

So essentially guys are in need of a perpetually horny cheap skate buxom bombshell, but in desperation will simply settle for a perpetually horny cheap skate of any "stature" that says yes (liking beer and football a plus).

Girls are in need of a guy with a bottomless money pit that is hot and impotent, but in desperation will settle for a guy with a bottomless money pit that is hot and impotent. ;)


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01 Dec 2013, 10:13 pm

aaaand the topic just degenerated into sexist drivel.
:roll:

Well, at least it gives a good demonstration of why many women don't bother making a first move on guys who they don't know very well... it's because a lot of them have weird notions like that.
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01 Dec 2013, 10:31 pm

crubs wrote:
But I think you're totally right. Girls oftentimes have absolutely no trouble making the first move with the top 5%.


I've been asked out by women and I'm definitely not in the top "5%".

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Women are pre-conditioned by society not to make a first move because it is seen as not the done thing.


You seem to have a very good grasp on socializing and why people are the way they are.



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01 Dec 2013, 10:31 pm

Ladywoofwoof wrote:
aaaand the topic just degenerated into sexist drivel.
:roll:


You mean it wasn't there already? wow, the bar has been lowered considerably since the last time we had this topic thread :lol:


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01 Dec 2013, 10:34 pm

Geez, why not just go ahead and admit the truth...
Ultimately, guys are nothing more than a penis with legs and a brain.
Guys can't use their penis and brain simultaneously, and a penis with legs is just weird.... even if it hasn't got 8 legs and scuttles about like a spider.
So a lot of women prefer to get it on with dildos, which also avoids the need for them to make the first approach.
This are teh 130% truth.
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01 Dec 2013, 10:37 pm

you got it partially right, you forgot the argument that the guy's penis IS his brain. and when it swells, he suffers temporary brain damage.


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01 Dec 2013, 10:38 pm

Ladywoofwoof wrote:
aaaand the topic just degenerated into sexist drivel.
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Well, at least it gives a good demonstration of why many women don't bother making a first move on guys who they don't know very well... it's because a lot of them have weird notions like that.
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wouldn't you make a first move on a guy you find attractive.
if a women does make the first move,it because she finds the guy attractive.
why else would anyone make the first move,to get laid,or
start a relationship.

my ex gf made the first move,and we had sex.
my best female friend made the first move,and we end up kissing.
if a woman makes the first move,she's looking for more
than just normal friendship.



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01 Dec 2013, 10:39 pm

^ akshully, the real truth goes something like this
All questions are really one question masquerading as something else, and that one question is this:

Q: Why am I single?

everything is just a permutation of this question.

Unless one is not single. In which case other questions become possible.



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01 Dec 2013, 10:42 pm

How about the question,
"Why shouldn't I be single ?"

Lots of people spend pretty much no time navel gazing about why they are single, and are happy to be single.



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01 Dec 2013, 10:44 pm

billiscool wrote:
if a women does make the first move,it because she finds the guy attractive.
why else would anyone make the first move,to get laid,or
start a relationship.


A lot of guys don't seem to grasp that the part in bold might be more important than them getting laid.



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01 Dec 2013, 10:48 pm

Ladywoofwoof wrote:
How about the question,
"Why shouldn't I be single ?"

Lots of people spend pretty much no time navel gazing about why they are single, and are happy to be single.


on this here forum? Seriously?



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01 Dec 2013, 11:11 pm

Ladywoofwoof wrote:

Lots of people spend pretty much no time navel gazing about why they are single, and are happy to be single.


Im happy being a ''quasi''single.



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02 Dec 2013, 12:15 am

leafplant wrote:
Ladywoofwoof wrote:
How about the question,
"Why shouldn't I be single ?"

Lots of people spend pretty much no time navel gazing about why they are single, and are happy to be single.


on this here forum? Seriously?


:lol: ahahaha... that's a good one.

I guess that many a true word is said in jest though.
:chin: Compared to the number of guys fixated with such navel gazing, there don't seem to be nearly so many women.
Or does it just seem like that to me ? Or perhaps that's just because there are more male Aspies than female ones statistically speaking ?

But at any rate, hell no I wasn't meaning specifically people on this forum.
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02 Dec 2013, 12:39 am

Ladywoofwoof wrote:
leafplant wrote:
Ladywoofwoof wrote:
How about the question,
"Why shouldn't I be single ?"

Lots of people spend pretty much no time navel gazing about why they are single, and are happy to be single.


on this here forum? Seriously?


:lol: ahahaha... that's a good one.

I guess that many a true word is said in jest though.
:chin: Compared to the number of guys fixated with such navel gazing, there don't seem to be nearly so many women.
Or does it just seem like that to me ? Or perhaps that's just because there are more male Aspies than female ones statistically speaking ?

But at any rate, hell no I wasn't meaning specifically people on this forum.
;-)


I'm willing to bet that this has a lot to do with gender economics. The "demand" for women is much higher than the "supply". So men with any kind of disability are at a severe disadvantage, because they're being placed into a market that they can't compete in. They have a biological imperative that looms over every aspect of their life, but they don't have the qualities necessary to fulfill it. It's like being a turkey with terrible plumage. You have the same compulsions that drive any other male turkey, but there are so many superior turkeys out there that you're kind of doomed right off the bat.



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02 Dec 2013, 2:51 am

I am a female and have made the first move in about 50% or more with dating partners. But...this depended on a few factors. I tended to do this more when the following cases/scenarios arose:

1.) He was shy and I figured this out and wanted to help things along.
2.) He was afraid to ask me out due to working together (i.e., men often get accused of harrassment in workplace from what I hear).
3.) He appeared to have low self-esteem.
4.) He seemed to not have any clue that I was flirting with him, so I helped things along.
5.) He thought I was out of his league or age range...even when I did not think either of these two things.

That's all I could come up with and remember for now...but if anything else dawns on me...will update. Basically, I think it depends on the woman and the man. If the woman is assertive and/or if she specifically knows she may need to be the one to start the relationship. I don't think it is fair for men to have to do all the asking, all the time. It's a shame that we can't live in a more fair world, especially in regards to love.