Would you date a pua?

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A person though who isn't deceptive is more likely to use their physical flirting to their advantage (a trait of PUA's, but they might not have a clue what is natural and what isn't). Meaning, they have to be physically attractive and believe it. The woman has to agree with their perception of who they think they are as well.

A man who is playful will neg and it will be natural for him. They like to tease girls and get them to play along. This is only deceptive if the person is not good at it and clearly is trying to get in someone's pants. But surprisingly, the playful type of man is not as concerned about getting laid as the physical man is. He will take the opportunity if it presents itself, but he won't go out of his way for it. They just want to engage people in a playful manner. That is all. Playful people are the ones that want to do the least amount of work to get laid. Physical people are a little more forward with their approach and will at least tell someone they are attractive, while the playful one will make a person work for a compliment.

This kind of stuff seems to work in bar or club settings and is primarily meant for hooking up (as opposed to meeting someone online for a first date, or getting in a relationship with someone you know). Sadly, hooking up may be the only way they know how to try and get involved in a relationship with anyone.

This is all just making me more determined to stay away from bars, pubs and clubs (unless going out to chill out with friends) and stick to going to the footy to find a life-partner. At least if I meet someone at the footy it's because we've got something in common and just happen to be attracted to each other than purposefully going out with the intention to score.

Save the pubs and clubs for hanging out with friends, use hobbies and interests to meet people instead!

Could you elaborate? I'm just interested in your answer. I'm totally comfortable with proving your point if that means I won't have to do something that makes me uncomfortable and slightly disgusted anymore.

I don't think he actually tried negging. It wouldn't make much sense to me anyway because I don't really care much what some people think, such as ''you'd look way prettier if you'd do this or that'' (some have tried it). I guess I responded ''wrongly'' because I was like ''fine, but I don't care if you think I look my best''. Didn't really hit home to me, just seemed a bit odd.

This wasn't in a bar, actually, several of my PUA encounters were outside bars. I don't really think that's a good place to find a long relationship, either. Having stuff in common and the same mindset really helps!

Yes, they do have control over (some) women - namely the ones that are weak willed and are desperate to for any type of attention. You really cannot blame women for falling for their tactics no more than we could blame you for not being as intelligent as people who are more intelligent than you.

What's negging?

Why is everyone's google finger broken !?

Negging
Low-grade insults meant to undermine the self-confidence of a woman so she might be more vulnerable to your advances. This is something no decent guy would do. They say that the a**holes get the girls, but I can spot negging a mile away and I reject these f*****s straight off.
Everywhere there is an insecure pretty girl, there is some guy negging.
Negging can be so subtle, it's pratically undetectable.
I was wondering why that guy was complimenting me while putting me down. He was negging of course.


http://xkcd.com/1027/

Haha! That xkcd link

^Leafplant, why using google when you are my personal google?

That's negging

no it isnt. To be negging, there have to be 2 distinct conditions that are satisfied by the words used:

1) the underlying intent would have to be to have sex with the woman in question

2) words used would imply that she is not good enough in some way but the Negger is going to lower himself and do her a favour by f*****g her because he is such a darn nice guy

I certainly don't want to have sex with you.

aspiemike: Teasing is fine, if they can handle being teased back, but negging.... feels different.... than teasing. It's a little hard to explain, but the gist is that with teasing, there's an expected tease back and with negging, it's done so that you aren't supposed to respond, merely to feel bad about yourself and want to please the guy more.

YourMajesty: Okay, but it's a thing PUAs do and even when you don't really care (personally, I find it hard to give a s**t, myself), it can wear at you. As leafplant pointed out, it can be very subtle.

ultimately the problem is integrity...if you try to get "game" while maintaining your integrity and respecting the other's feelings...there shouldn't be a problem.

Aww, dam, are you sure?

Someone tells a PUA that they don't want to have anything to do with them anymore.

"This proves my point that them dumb women love PUAs!"

Logic!

I tried something similar to this but failed horribly. I never had a board with something written on it, but I was handing out "free hugs". This guy seems to know how to do it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47A9Z28U3I[/youtube]

Seriously, you did?