what to do if you're urgly
i can't do anything art like i surpose i'd be more interesting to women in my area if i could well if i looked better too.
I would just do what you are doing if that's what you enjoy. Trying to take up a hobby you dislike in order to appear interesting is going to backfire pretty surely as it is unlikely to help you find love and more likely to frustrate you with the fact that you are wasting time doing something you don't enjoy. The nice thing about art is you don't have to be good at it to enjoy the process. Some of my art is great, some of it sucks. C'est la vie.
I think that if we are dealing with reality as you have described it to us, the best advice I can give is to continue to do the things you love and follow your passions, whatever they are. It is totally normal and natural to long for sex and love, but it is not healthy when that desire not being fulfilled keeps you from living as presently as possible. Maybe it will happen for you, maybe it won't, but looks aside, the most attractive thing to me is someone who is not afraid to pursue what they love. It probably sounds cheesy, but it's true.
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Beauty is culturally determined. For the Japanese 100 years ago it was blackened teeth. For the Chinese it was women whose feet were mutilated.
For us, beauty is defined by TV commercials. An advertiser has 30 seconds to capture your attention and associate a pleasurable sensation with his product.
Like Pavlov's dogs, we all respond to pictures of the beautiful. However, even for those who are able to mimic these half minute tableaus, life continues and the image is difficult to maintain.
For the super model life can be a prison. She is unable to do anything that would deflate the image. No one can picture her passing gas or picking her nose. Worse, as time passes, she clutches to the props of her profession applying increasing amounts of makeup so that she can try to appear as she once was.
The beautiful can capture attention...for 30 seconds. After the initial attraction other factors start to enter the equation. Many beautiful movie stars from the silent era were unable to maintain their "beauty" when they spoke.
We live in a time when the pace of life is such that the 30 second attraction is usually sufficient. Most people are not thinking in terms of marriage and family. Most think in terms of romance and sex. The meaningful "relationship" is replacing marriage so that the length of a relationship is starting to approximate the 30 second window.
If a person wants to find someone with whom to spend his entire life, a sense of humor would be much more important than how they look. If a person wants to find someone with whom to spend 30 seconds, then deeper qualities are less important.
As a Christian I am called to selflessness and love. I might frequently fail in this, but I would be foolish to entangle myself with someone who did not have the same values.
Proverbs 31:30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
i eat as healthy as i can on $150 a month for food, and i can't afford a gym and i actually find with my size i'm not super obese like some men and i"ll always have a belly due to my body type, i wouldn't mind being 250 again but that was hard to maintain.
shouldn't i be loved for who and how i am just as the women want to be loved for who they are?
You want to be loved for how you are? Unfortunately looks matters. You yourself admitted that if a girl is too fat you don't find her attractive.
If you really think your physical appearance is what's hindering you from attracting girls, you should make your utmost effort to change that.
Can't afford a gym? Go for a jog, do sit-ups and push-ups. You can eat healthier even on a budget.
If you really want it you will/can do it.
i eat as healthy as i can on $150 a month for food, and i can't afford a gym and i actually find with my size i'm not super obese like some men and i"ll always have a belly due to my body type, i wouldn't mind being 250 again but that was hard to maintain.
shouldn't i be loved for who and how i am just as the women want to be loved for who they are?
You want to be loved for how you are? Unfortunately looks matters. You yourself admitted that if a girl is too fat you don't find her attractive.
If you really think your physical appearance is what's hindering you from attracting girls, you should make your utmost effort to change that.
Can't afford a gym? Go for a jog, do sit-ups and push-ups. You can eat healthier even on a budget.
If you really want it you will/can do it.
part 1 of 3( it kept giving me can't find smilies, took a hour to get this to work)
if i was super obese i would totally work on changing, but as am i'm only 25 pounds over and will always have some kind of a belly , i do tend to do crunches(sit ups are bad for your back) and push ups when i remember. don't mistake my not finding super obese women attractive as hypocrite , there are plenty of women my size or even larger i find attractive and actually they better to cuddle with then the thin stick women, and from what i've seen nicer. i think i do find normal thin women slightly more attractive but in reality i don't think i want them though i wouldn't reject them either .
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part 2 of 3
hope this doesn't come off as objectiving women but i only trying to show my attraction differences
too big
attractive sizes
this lady is borderish, shes a bit large but has a pretty face, i wouldn't limit her out but her personality and willingness to lose weight with me would be the deciding factor( part of what i want with a gf is a walking buddy)
http://www.bajiroo.com/wp-content/uploa ... orld-3.jpg
i eat as healthy as i can on $150 a month for food, and i can't afford a gym and i actually find with my size i'm not super obese like some men and i"ll always have a belly due to my body type, i wouldn't mind being 250 again but that was hard to maintain.
shouldn't i be loved for who and how i am just as the women want to be loved for who they are?
You want to be loved for how you are? Unfortunately looks matters. You yourself admitted that if a girl is too fat you don't find her attractive.
If you really think your physical appearance is what's hindering you from attracting girls, you should make your utmost effort to change that.
Can't afford a gym? Go for a jog, do sit-ups and push-ups. You can eat healthier even on a budget.
If you really want it you will/can do it.
part 1 of 3( it kept giving me can't find smilies, took a hour to get this to work)
if i was super obese i would totally work on changing, but as am i'm only 25 pounds over and will always have some kind of a belly , i do tend to do crunches(sit ups are bad for your back) and push ups when i remember. don't mistake my not finding super obese women attractive as hypocrite , there are plenty of women my size or even larger i find attractive and actually they better to cuddle with then the thin stick women, and from what i've seen nicer. i think i do find normal thin women slightly more attractive but in reality i don't think i want them though i wouldn't reject them either .
I wouldn't say you're ugly and you have potential to be better looking.
You can whine about how women won't accept you for how you are all you want but that wouldn't change anything.
Of course you can stay how you are right now and hope you'll find someone who would accept you. I wouldn't say that's impossible. Or you can try harder to be leaner and fitter to attract more women.
What I'm trying to say is, you can't change what women think but you can change how you look. It's YOUR choice.
i eat as healthy as i can on $150 a month for food, and i can't afford a gym and i actually find with my size i'm not super obese like some men and i"ll always have a belly due to my body type, i wouldn't mind being 250 again but that was hard to maintain.
shouldn't i be loved for who and how i am just as the women want to be loved for who they are?
You want to be loved for how you are? Unfortunately looks matters. You yourself admitted that if a girl is too fat you don't find her attractive.
If you really think your physical appearance is what's hindering you from attracting girls, you should make your utmost effort to change that.
Can't afford a gym? Go for a jog, do sit-ups and push-ups. You can eat healthier even on a budget.
If you really want it you will/can do it.
part 1 of 3( it kept giving me can't find smilies, took a hour to get this to work)
if i was super obese i would totally work on changing, but as am i'm only 25 pounds over and will always have some kind of a belly , i do tend to do crunches(sit ups are bad for your back) and push ups when i remember. don't mistake my not finding super obese women attractive as hypocrite , there are plenty of women my size or even larger i find attractive and actually they better to cuddle with then the thin stick women, and from what i've seen nicer. i think i do find normal thin women slightly more attractive but in reality i don't think i want them though i wouldn't reject them either .
I wouldn't say you're ugly and you have potential to be better looking.
You can whine about how women won't accept you for how you are all you want but that wouldn't change anything.
Of course you can stay how you are right now and hope you'll find someone who would accept you. I wouldn't say that's impossible. Or you can try harder to be leaner and fitter to attract more women.
What I'm trying to say is, you can't change what women think but you can change how you look. It's YOUR choice.
I agree. You're not ugly by any means (but then again I'm not attracted to men whatsoever but I think I can tell when a dude is ugly and when a dude is good looking), but you can definitely improve on yourself. It's up to you whether you want to do that or not.
The benefits of self improvement is not only do other people perceive and treat you better but you also feel better about yourself.
what can i change about my face as thats the basis of looks women judge me on via okc( picks are from chest up in which you cant see i'm a little fat)
i really dont want a woman who sole purpose of being with me is my body, as what heppens if i gained weight again, they'd leave me. also when i was trying to join the military was when i was in my best shape, 25 pounds lighter, i wasn't much smaller belly then i have now. just like inch or two pants size.
the major problem i have is i can't do exercising alone. with others its fun and social and with friends i felt less awkard. If i had the money or space i'd love a treadmill then i could walk on it while watching tv. i like walking/hiking i just can't do it alone,
i get afraid and have anxiety or freeze up when i try to. i'm really a social person, with other people i can do alot of stuff, but now they all gone.
I don't think you are ugly at all. I can't say I would pick you out of a crowd based on looks alone, but I can't say I would rule you out based on looks alone either.
I am bisexual and "bisizual", kind of a joke term I use that I find men and women of all shapes and sizes attractive (though as you said, probably not past a certain point, but the blonde girl in a bikini you posted is very pretty).
I have seen FAR worse looking guys than you in relationships.
This is my ex husband (our divorce had nothing to do with his looks ftr):
He is happily remarried and expecting a baby (we have a 5 year old son together). He is 29, this is his third relationship ever (we were married 6 years, he had a gf for a year and a half before that)
He's a great guy and everyone he meets likes him a lot (even the guys I've dated since have been very fond of him). I think this would be the case no matter how he looked, and I think there are many attractive women who would find him dateable. He's not ugly, but not someone most people would pick out of a crowd based on looks alone.
I really do think looks only go so far, and I can honestly say you are not any worse-looking than many of the guys I have dated, and it's not like I don't have more physically attractive options. It's like timf said, physical beauty only goes so far. I know plenty of men and women who appear attractive until they speak. Ignorance and meanness are far more unattractive than some extra pounds or whatever else might be considered physically unattractive.
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But how about an empirically tested look at how things really work? If you're as ugly as you sound (as ugly as I am) then no normal girl will ever want you, it's as simple as that. Your best bet is to find a blind girl who is physically incapable of judging you based on your appearance. You can take any other girl and lavish her in romance, love, and affection, but she'll never love you because you don't have what she really wants, i.e. looks.
That being said, I have no idea how to find a decent blind girl.
and you think you're ugly; you're funny as hell! you could make a great gal laugh her ass off
I know I can make girls laugh, but so what? I can make guys laugh too, is there any difference in value? Not unless you got looks.
i really dont want a woman who sole purpose of being with me is my body, as what heppens if i gained weight again, they'd leave me. also when i was trying to join the military was when i was in my best shape, 25 pounds lighter, i wasn't much smaller belly then i have now. just like inch or two pants size.
the major problem i have is i can't do exercising alone. with others its fun and social and with friends i felt less awkard. If i had the money or space i'd love a treadmill then i could walk on it while watching tv. i like walking/hiking i just can't do it alone,
You don't have to do anything to your face. Just losing weight would make you look better naturally.
Look at this guy. He lost 120lb in one year by running. Look how much more handsome he looks after the weight loss.
I'm just saying there IS something you can do to improve your looks. But if you don't want to do it, it's your choice.
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i really dont want a woman who sole purpose of being with me is my body, as what heppens if i gained weight again, they'd leave me. also when i was trying to join the military was when i was in my best shape, 25 pounds lighter, i wasn't much smaller belly then i have now. just like inch or two pants size.
the major problem i have is i can't do exercising alone. with others its fun and social and with friends i felt less awkard. If i had the money or space i'd love a treadmill then i could walk on it while watching tv. i like walking/hiking i just can't do it alone,
You don't have to do anything to your face. Just losing weight would make you look better naturally.
Look at this guy. He lost 120lb in one year by running. Look how much more handsome he looks after the weight loss.

I'm just saying there IS something you can do to improve your looks. But if you don't want to do it, it's your choice.
i wish it was that simple, besides i run funny and can't do it long. but i can't go out there and as for losing 120 ponds that would be very unhealthy for me due to my body type 240 would be my min . not everyone is build the same
i miss the college gym
I am bisexual and "bisizual", kind of a joke term I use that I find men and women of all shapes and sizes attractive (though as you said, probably not past a certain point, but the blonde girl in a bikini you posted is very pretty).
I have seen FAR worse looking guys than you in relationships.
This is my ex husband (our divorce had nothing to do with his looks ftr):

He is happily remarried and expecting a baby (we have a 5 year old son together). He is 29, this is his third relationship ever (we were married 6 years, he had a gf for a year and a half before that)
He's a great guy and everyone he meets likes him a lot (even the guys I've dated since have been very fond of him). I think this would be the case no matter how he looked, and I think there are many attractive women who would find him dateable. He's not ugly, but not someone most people would pick out of a crowd based on looks alone.
I really do think looks only go so far, and I can honestly say you are not any worse-looking than many of the guys I have dated, and it's not like I don't have more physically attractive options. It's like timf said, physical beauty only goes so far. I know plenty of men and women who appear attractive until they speak. Ignorance and meanness are far more unattractive than some extra pounds or whatever else might be considered physically unattractive.
if you didn't pick a person out of a crowd why would you talk to them? not that i would talk to a person i found attractive.
how did he manage to get you as a gf then wife? O.O without sounding stalkerish you're good looking and look to be thin?
looks open the door though and good qualities are unseen thru a closed door

