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MishLuvsHer2Boys
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13 Feb 2007, 8:17 am

Do you really think it's all just in the 'providing' for a child that is the case here? It's about having a proper male role model in a child's life and all, there is only so much a mother can provide for a child as a role model just as there is with a male's part as a role model. I watched my two male cousins grow up without their father around after their father cheated on their mother and left her and guess what type of guys they turned out to be... very confused and learned to be just like their dad... after only a short period of time as him as their role model. If you think it's just about providing financial support as being on the only support role someone can fulfill, that's wrong. I would have loved to have had more kids if the NT partner I have would have gotten himself fixed instead of me being forced to... I would have loved if things changed that maybe someday when I do have to move on, that I could at least have one more child. While you may see a lot of negatives that come out of this stuff and all, I see positives too that others can provide to the welfare of a child.



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13 Feb 2007, 9:36 am

Children of the future will evolve a way to adapt to single parent life. But I do agree that at the moment children need a father role model.

I was reading in last weeks NewScientist magazine that the absent of a father makes daughters grow up to quickly and have an increased chance of being a teenage mother. This is down to the lack of resources make life hard making it impractical to have extended childhoods.

The opposite is having the support of the father, giving the support for children to have a longer time to grow up and have extended childhood. Long childhood imported for a child’s education people with Aspergers tend to have long childhoods and many look younger then their real age. If they have short childhoods they get a disfiguring condition called Acute Neurotypical Syndrome; here in England we call them Chavs.

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13 Feb 2007, 12:44 pm

[quote="MishLuvsHer2Boys"][quote="Aspie_Chav"]Woman with children, simply don’t want to go there. As I have spent all of my life an attached and with nobody I could really call a girl friend, I am not willing to pick up someone’s mess.[\quote]

It's men like you that think us women with kids and all especially single ones are just a person with burdens added... I don't blame my aunt for not really bothering with men and choosing to be a single mom to her 2 sons if she had to deal with this from a lot of men. I can see why she gave up. It's hard enough to find yourself in a situation where you're a single mom with kids, don't need a bunch of jerks that won't give us the time of day because we have kids. I'd rather have a real man that would accept my sons if I were a single mom whether they were his biologically or not.[quote]

You are doing a crude comparison between me and any man, including those who are responsible for this many broken homes; them man out of ignorance sees it not necessary to making effort in a relationship to make it work with a relationship councillor; the man who never realises that man are from Mars and woman are from Venous so blames all the problems on the woman.
Obviously this goes two ways and the woman can be partly to blame. The problem is ignorance and naivety. Bringing a child into this world and supporting him is not something that should be taken likely and should I go into this and have children of my own, I will go into this with such planning and preparation( taking into consideration anything that cannot be planned) I make sure I know all that I need to know about looking after children.
I make an assumption that hidden deep in most man is a gene that says “Must move of to other woman, must spread my seed” as a result the either consciously or unconsciously scupper the relationship so he can move on to have more children.
If that gene is in me, I make sure that see it coming because it aint ganna get me. It isn’t going to stop me from doing my fatherhood responsibilities.



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14 Feb 2007, 11:45 am

I have to say one thing... you can plan all you want and hope things go right when you choose to have children but it doesn't work out that way all of the time and many parents can tell you that... you can't plan for the financial issues that can arise, or emotional stress and all you'll feel through you your child's life nor can you plan how much that child will turn your life upside down and it feels wonderful all despite.



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14 Feb 2007, 1:30 pm

There are always plans that make life better. To save money, I could get a lower performance diesel car, make go to a cheaper grocery store or generally take advice from http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/

I have noted some advice from supernany, which should take the sting out of child rising.

Against stress there is always meditation and the way of the Budha. Plus there are so much advice and choices when it comes down to dealing with stress; I wish that there was just as many for loneliness.

However I do acknoledge that the unexpected does happen.



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14 Feb 2007, 3:34 pm

I learned over life that kids aren't the most predictable sort even though they seem to crave routine. *shrugs* Still makes no logic to me. Heh. I love my two sons with all my heart no matter what situation we have to deal with. They know I'll be there for them. :)



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14 Feb 2007, 7:44 pm

I probably wouldn't consider dating a woman with kids until after I finish college.

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15 Feb 2007, 6:26 pm

Aspie_Chav wrote:
It was said that woman only see 30% of man dating material, which they fight vigorously for. Now it seem like at my age, things seem to be like that for men because many woman already have children and in many cases even more then one.

Woman with children, simply don’t want to go there. As I have spent all of my life an attached and with nobody I could really call a girl friend, I am not willing to pick up someone’s mess.

I can sympathise with others people situation, but it is not for me. I feel like if I don’t find someone soon this is only going to be a bigger problem.


Some men don't simply view dating a woman with children as picking up 'someone's mess' and will quite happily go out with a woman with children. But then the men that date these women usually go on to have a child with that woman and tend to like children. However, if the woman is older (and her children are practically grown up) and doesn't want any more children and he is older too and doesn't particularly want them, then it's a good move for him (particularly if the kids don't live with the mother anymore) as she will not pressure him for children. A win-win situation.

However, I can see your point of view Aspie Chav as I am a female who isn't really fussed about having her own children, but would not want to look after someone else's either.


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18 Feb 2007, 3:46 am

Where is the dilemma? If that is what you want, that's what you want. At least you are being honest with yourself and any possible date.

Lots of women are not having children even late into life. Lots of them, even in their 30s and 40s have no kids. Don't worry.