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17 Feb 2014, 11:55 am

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Need help. I live in a small complex of flats and recently a bunch of guys moved into a flat opposite. One of them I feel is trying to mess with me psychologically, I think because he wants to sleep with me(??). He knows I have a boyfriend. He deliberately walked on my balcony talking about me on the phone to somebody one night when he knew I was inside, saying stuff like he thought I had heart/he wanted to get to know me/etc. I barricaded my balcony off with chairs after that, but today he talked to me in the street when we ran into each other both walking home and I didn't know how to ignore him (felt forced to respond out of basic politeness). Tonight at 11:20pm (yes, THAT late) he knocks insistently on my door and I stupidly answered it (I shouldn't have answered the door, it was dumb of me). And he tried to invite me downstairs to have Nepalese food with him and his friends. I explained several times to him that it was really late and I would rather he didn't knock on my door after 9pm at the latest. Then he kept talking about being lonely because his gf was overseas (pretty sure he may have made his gf up) and saying that I was lonely (despite me repeating over and over that I have a boyfriend and am NOT lonely). Was being suggestive in saying that we could be friends so 'we' would be less lonely, didn't have to be in a relationship, could just be "friends" (pretty sure I know what kind of "friendship" he is hoping for). Was very insistent that I come over tomorrow night and have dinner. I don't know how to shake him off, he is really persistent and has this overly friendly manner (which makes it really hard to be rude to him).

I know that this is a social situation that can be resolved but I'm kind of stuck at the moment because I'm worried about being super rude/nasty as I have to live next to this guy. I don't want to make enemies then have to live next to them but atm I'm kind of stuck for other options. help! Any advice/suggestions are welcome.


First of all, you have already shown him that you are weak when it comes to standing your ground. Despite you telling him you don't want something all he has to do is insist and insinuate and you cave in and accept.

This fact alone has opened the door for him to manipulate you. He knows now how to do it.

Second... yes, all he wants is to sleep with you and nothing else. His attitude and behavior indicate he is pushing your buttons to get this to happen as quickly as possible. Consider:

1) He wants to get together with you at times when you are very vulnerable (alone... late at night, going to his place for dinner).
2) His speaking out loud about you to his friends on the phone (assuming he really is talking to a friend on the phone) knowing you will hear it.
3) He wants to spend time with you so that you both won't be 'so alone' anymore.
4) He constantly is forcing his presence on you (late night knock on doors, etc).

This is the behavior of a sociopath or that of a very manipulative and potentially physically abusive person.

..but let's ASSUME he does really want to get to know you 'n all that. Consider what he has said so far:

1) He knows you have a BF.
2) He has a GF. Who is overseas. (lets assume both are true).
3) He ignores the fact that you've told him you have BF and not alone or lonely.

This guy is a scumbag who is trying hard to cheat on his alleged GF while she's away.


You don't need to find a way to tell him politely to leave you alone. I would suggest you speak to your local police dept. on what to do in this situation. Even if you tell him directly or if you have guy friends there to back you up or even if you complain to the building management the fact is you still live next to him and you are vulnerable.

For the time being, I would suggest you submit a complaint in writing to the apartment management and have your BF spend a few nights at your place.



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17 Feb 2014, 1:10 pm

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What do you think? As a guy, if a girl acted this way towards you (and her attention was unwanted), how would you feel?



I'm a guy and I have had a girl act this way towards me.

How did I feel?

Deeply annoyed.

I tried to be nice for a while but it was getting to be too much. I just told her flat out one day, "Look, I don't know what you're trying to do here but it's making me feel uncomfortable."
After she apologized profusely, I said it was okay and we could be friends but this hardcore coming on had to stop (by that I mean being physically touched by her a lot, strong awkward sexual.. comments, etc). She never bothered me again.


Obviously she was only looking for sex and had no interest in being friends whatsoever since she never spoke to me or came around anymore after that day.

It's okay though. I didn't want to be friends with her, anyway. She annoyed the hell out of me and I'm glad I addressed the issue with her in a calm and controlled way because if I had let it go on any longer, I probably would have snapped and wouldn't have been so nice.



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17 Feb 2014, 1:32 pm

Let us know if you're doing all right when you read this, sunshower.



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17 Feb 2014, 3:43 pm

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men being men , do women do this ? (serious question )


By do this, do you mean act like the guy described does? Definitely. It just doesn't turn into such a big deal normally because I don't think most guys would feel quite so intimidated by a girl acting this way as a girl could feel from a guy. If a girl acted like this towards me, I would...well, actually, I probably wouldn't suspect anything romantic, but even if she made it clear that was the case I would still not feel nearly as uncomfortable as if a guy were doing so. Well, depending on the size of the girl and/or guy involved. If I find someone physically intimidating, which I'm more likely to find a guy, then I would be more likely to get upset in the situation described.

What do you think? As a guy, if a girl acted this way towards you (and her attention was unwanted), how would you feel?


I'd question her sanity ie any girl showing interest in me cause I have such a low opinion of myself :wink: , the reason I asked the question as these stories are all ways told by women , strange as men being men would wear it as a badge of honour like casual sex another thing I question who does this :? , yes I think about it though I can not imagine going through with it :?

and what is the ratio of women doing this ?


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17 Feb 2014, 5:52 pm

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I think going to his place with his friends present would have been a worse situation than if they weren't there.


I think if his friends were there, they would probably tell him afterwards that he is out of line. If it was me I'd just tell him straight up to stay away from her and leave her alone. I wouldn't be friendly or anything to him. If he says sorry I'd accept that. That may be all that is needed. Whatever outcome to me it's something that needs to be done.

I know it is tricky because she has to live next door to him, but hes brought it all on himself.


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17 Feb 2014, 9:41 pm

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men being men , do women do this ? (serious question )


By do this, do you mean act like the guy described does? Definitely. It just doesn't turn into such a big deal normally because I don't think most guys would feel quite so intimidated by a girl acting this way as a girl could feel from a guy. If a girl acted like this towards me, I would...well, actually, I probably wouldn't suspect anything romantic, but even if she made it clear that was the case I would still not feel nearly as uncomfortable as if a guy were doing so. Well, depending on the size of the girl and/or guy involved. If I find someone physically intimidating, which I'm more likely to find a guy, then I would be more likely to get upset in the situation described.

What do you think? As a guy, if a girl acted this way towards you (and her attention was unwanted), how would you feel?


I'd question her sanity ie any girl showing interest in me cause I have such a low opinion of myself :wink: , the reason I asked the question as these stories are all ways told by women , strange as men being men would wear it as a badge of honour like casual sex another thing I question who does this :? , yes I think about it though I can not imagine going through with it :?

and what is the ratio of women doing this ?


Well, at least you realize your opinion is what's low, rather than your actual self-worth. That's a start. :) :) :)

Maybe men don't tell these stories because they're only a badge of honor if you succeed in landing the girl.

I don't know who does this...I get a vibe when I think about the type of person, but I can't seem to put it into words.

Ratio likely varies based on age group. I know in college I heard a lot of stories about girls who acted like this (from girls who were complaining about other girls...I swear, girl gossip is so scary). I would imagine, though, that if you asked my mom she'd have trouble coming up with examples.


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17 Feb 2014, 9:53 pm

^^^

you mean theirs a difference one and the same I thought . 8O


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18 Feb 2014, 9:22 pm

Would you mind clarifying? What in particular seemed one and the same to you?


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18 Feb 2014, 10:24 pm

self worth and low opnion of myself ....

don't worry I hold that opinion of (most) other people to :wink:


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19 Feb 2014, 9:01 am

I can't argue you out of feelings of low self worth, but if I may make a suggestion, maybe try volunteering? Online or in person. There's nothing that makes me feel better about myself than when I'm giving back. Many of us here are used to being hurt/victimized by society, but volunteering is a chance to be in a powerful position, to help other people who are having a rough time and to actually have the power to help them with their situation in a way we weren't always provided ourselves. Plus, if you're looking to meet people, which it sounds like you are, this is a great way to do so. :) Just a thought.


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19 Feb 2014, 4:51 pm

^^^

I do that I'm on the pension the thing is I have severe anxiety disorder and I scare people away a young girl recently left storming out of the soup kitchen saying she is never coming back she looks at me and says it's not cause of me , perhaps not entirely though I was part of the problem :oops: , I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy though thanks to medication and lifestyle changes their are periods that are ok -ish and for that I am grateful.


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20 Feb 2014, 8:59 pm

At least she said it wasn't because of you? And at least you're helping homeless people and you have that knowledge. I don't know what it's like in Australia, but where I'm from homeless people are treated HORRIFICALLY. Like, they're not allowed to live in the city, regulations make it hard for organizations to feed them, and they're passing a blanket ban so that, even though it's winter, homeless people won't be allowed to have blankets.

Lovely. (extreme sarcasm)

Anyways, all the more need for people like you, people who actually recognize the humanity of those who are struggling. Even if your fellow volunteers don't realize it, you're giving back in a big way just by caring enough to be there to help, and you deserve giant props for that.


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20 Feb 2014, 11:21 pm

^^^^^

your from the usa ? I am surprised some homeless people sleep in prime locations (here) like in the city open air mall, with police and security cameras near by it is understandable . Thankfully "face" is not at all important in Australia .

Speaking of the needy have you heard of the cage people in Kong Kong ? they have elderly people living in cages , even worse theirs no air conditioner / heater in the rooms , per sq meter they charge more than luxury homes their, of cause been a libertarian paradise that it is the government does not intervene .

as silly as it may sound I do not want to visit a country that behaves like this one of the richest in the world and it's people living like factory farm animals 8O


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21 Feb 2014, 10:42 am

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your from the usa ? I am surprised some homeless people sleep in prime locations (here) like in the city open air mall, with police and security cameras near by it is understandable . Thankfully "face" is not at all important in Australia .

Speaking of the needy have you heard of the cage people in Kong Kong ? they have elderly people living in cages , even worse theirs no air conditioner / heater in the rooms , per sq meter they charge more than luxury homes their, of cause been a libertarian paradise that it is the government does not intervene .

as silly as it may sound I do not want to visit a country that behaves like this one of the richest in the world and it's people living like factory farm animals 8O


Conditions vary from city to city, but yes, it's rough here. Really, really sad. And of course people say 'well they could just go sleep at a shelter' but a, shelters are often terrible and even dangerous, and b, shelters are way overcrowded. And 'tent cities' are razed down by authorities. My sister was telling me about one shelter in the city that's solely for mothers and their children. They're so overcrowded that the mothers and children are only allowed to stay there a few months before they're kicked out. Breaks my heart. Support Salvation Army, guys, they may not be perfect, but they do run decent (under funded) homeless shelters.

I had not heard about cage people. That is very, very sad. :( :( :(


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21 Feb 2014, 3:54 pm

^^^^^

it is, in a 3rd world country you would expect that but in one of the richest 8O


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22 Feb 2014, 7:42 am

Isn't it funny how that works? :(

Also, sunshower, please let us know how your situation turns out! :)


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