Where have all the good men gone?

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Evan385
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22 Mar 2014, 4:34 pm

Good women are just as hard to find as good men. I believe that women should be treated with kindness and respect. I am a very passionate person. I love unconditionally, I respect women and treat them with loving kindness. I have always been very loyal and have never cheated on anyone and give fully of myself in a relationship. But without fail I always get screwed over in the end. Why?



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22 Mar 2014, 5:43 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
You're so rude, how dare you questioning my femininity? ;__; Do I sound too nerdy for a woman? And I thought you are a nice guy. :'(

Where have all the good men gone???


Sorry I just wasn't sure. I've had people pretend to be women or guys before. I was just tying to know . :'(



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22 Mar 2014, 6:01 pm

sly279 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
You're so rude, how dare you questioning my femininity? ;__; Do I sound too nerdy for a woman? And I thought you are a nice guy. :'(

Where have all the good men gone???


Sorry I just wasn't sure. I've had people pretend to be women or guys before. I was just tying to know . :'(


The Face of Boo is male, he is just very fond of pranks.



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23 Mar 2014, 12:33 am

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If I actually had the confidence to ask a woman out, I would most definitely be a "nice guy". I am sick of seeing all these "bad boys" who use their machismo to pick up girls, and end up treating them like crap afterwards. Even though some people regard this as an outdated, "sexist" attitude, I honestly believe that chivalry is not dead, and that women deserve to be treated with respect. This means lending them your coat when it's cold, paying for meals, taking things slowly with intimacy, and just generally being a "knight in shining armor". I'm sure there are a lot of women out there who would appreciate guys with this attitude nowadays, especially since it's a refreshing change of pace from the whole "bad boy" thing.


Try again.

Try being a real person, with a life of your own but the ability to recognize that your girlfriend's also a person, one whose life and interests are as important as your own. Don't be a leech, a bully, a child. Have a sense of humor. Be kind without expecting you're owed something in return. Be her friend, not her hero. Converse. Be generous in bed without making it all about how generous you are in bed. Don't be envious of her, don't be resentful of her success. Be committed and thoughtful.

This Disney fantasy you've got up there, with the white knights...think about who watches Disney movies. It ain't grown women.


All I was really saying is that if I had a girlfriend, I would treat her with respect and be a gentleman, not some loser douchebag who's all like "nice boots, let's f**k." I know that the "knight in shining armor" thing is a little far-fetched, but damn it, if I had the skills and maturity to do it, I would. Why am I not doing it right now? I don't believe I'm mature enough yet for a relationship, and I simply have too many other things going on in my life right now for me to focus on becoming a gentleman, and acquiring a girlfriend.



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23 Mar 2014, 12:55 am

To answer her question: they're spending their time with the good women. So from her point of view it seems as if they've disappeared. :wink:



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23 Mar 2014, 8:19 am

luanqibazao wrote:
To answer her question: they're spending their time with the good women. So from her point of view it seems as if they've disappeared. :wink:


^^

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I've been out with guys who tried to treat me like a princess. They got a warning, and if they didn't stop it, the date was over. Treat me like an equal, dammit, not an object.

Treat me like who I am, a living, breathing, thinking human just like yourself, only with different physiognomy. I will freely acknowledge that you are physically stronger than me, but that's no reason to treat me as if I'm made of glass, or as if I haven't a thought in my pretty little head, or as if I am a vending machine for sex.



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23 Mar 2014, 8:36 am

Eureka13 wrote:
luanqibazao wrote:
To answer her question: they're spending their time with the good women. So from her point of view it seems as if they've disappeared. :wink:


^^

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I've been out with guys who tried to treat me like a princess. They got a warning, and if they didn't stop it, the date was over. Treat me like an equal, dammit, not an object.

Treat me like who I am, a living, breathing, thinking human just like yourself, only with different physiognomy. I will freely acknowledge that you are physically stronger than me, but that's no reason to treat me as if I'm made of glass, or as if I haven't a thought in my pretty little head, or as if I am a vending machine for sex.


^^ this. But as Aspie1 eloquently put it, a lot (note not all) men see it as "Men provide the romance in exchange for women providing sex"
This is exactly why I no longer bother trying to have a relationship. Virtually EVERY single partner I had, even the female one, had said in the past to me, when I owed them something "You can pay me back in other ways, wink wink". If I wanted to be a prostitute, I'd have been one. :evil:



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23 Mar 2014, 12:46 pm

leafplant wrote:
Eureka13 wrote:
luanqibazao wrote:
To answer her question: they're spending their time with the good women. So from her point of view it seems as if they've disappeared. :wink:


^^

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I've been out with guys who tried to treat me like a princess. They got a warning, and if they didn't stop it, the date was over. Treat me like an equal, dammit, not an object.

Treat me like who I am, a living, breathing, thinking human just like yourself, only with different physiognomy. I will freely acknowledge that you are physically stronger than me, but that's no reason to treat me as if I'm made of glass, or as if I haven't a thought in my pretty little head, or as if I am a vending machine for sex.


^^ this. But as aspimike eloquently put it, a lot (note not all) men see it as "Men provide the romance in exchange for women providing sex"
This is exactly why I no longer bother trying to have a relationship. Virtually EVERY single partner I had, even the female one, had said in the past to me, when I owed them something "You can pay me back in other ways, wink wink". If I wanted to be a prostitute, I'd have been one. :evil:



women aren't made of glass? :o all this time I've been miss lead lol

I love giving romance and would enjoy to get some back. though not flowers. they could surprise me with dinner or breakfast in bed or a picnic. I do hope there's plenty of women who enjoy giving romance. It wouldn't be totally disappointing if not though, but cool if there is :)

sorry they did that leafplant. it wasn't in a silly playful way? if real then that's mean. I might say that playfully then follow it with tickling or something lol. I'd prefer owed stuff payed back, though i'm more likely to jut give stuff to a SO.

is romance=sex really the common thing in society? :( I'd hate for some lady to try to sex me for some kind of odd exchange. not to mention it might freak me out if its done too quickly. I am just romantic, sometimes I wish I wasn't, If this turns them on then its just a pleasant side effect, not my goal, nor would I know if they are lol. all I want is a happy smile :) let them go home happy and feeling special and loved(if later on in relationship)

only time I would expect sex is after a lady said lets have sex. Which they don't right? most do hidden signs or just start grouping and kissing.

I wonder then if me romancing them then saying by and going home could have lead to misunderstanding on past dates. probably not, but is it something to watch out for in future dates?? would it been seen as rejecting them or playing mind games? :S



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23 Mar 2014, 1:13 pm

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But as aspimike eloquently put it, a lot (note not all) men see it as "Men provide the romance in exchange for women providing sex"


^^^ I'm not quite sure where I said that. I do remember someone else with "aspie" in their username said something similar in a different thread within the last couple days.


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23 Mar 2014, 1:41 pm

"When did it become exceptable to split the costs on a 1st date?"
1732 is my answer! :lol:



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23 Mar 2014, 1:46 pm

I can't speak for other women, but I like to do little romantic things for my guy. Make him a special dinner, wear an outfit that I know he likes, give him little presents. I think where the system falls down is where that sort of thing becomes currency in an exchange. Those little special, romantic gestures should be done because they come from the heart, not because the other person is expecting it in exchange for something. When I do it, it's to express my appreciation and let him know that he is special to me, no more, no less.

That sort of thing was a fun game with my late fiance and me. I would do something nice for him, and he would look at me suspiciously and say "alright, what do you need me to fix?". Or he would do something nice for me, and I'd look at him askance and ask "okay, what did you break?". But it was JOKING. A running joke between us, poking fun at the idea that a partner could not possibly show some consideration for the other without there being some ulterior motive. The fact that the nice things we randomly did for one another were completely unexpected (and therefore were absolutely NOT based on some kind of exchange) was what made it fun, and what made us able to joke about it, and what kept it on the plane of a simple gesture of appreciation - not for something the other person DID, but simply for who they were.



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23 Mar 2014, 2:43 pm

aspiemike wrote:
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But as aspimike eloquently put it, a lot (note not all) men see it as "Men provide the romance in exchange for women providing sex"


^^^ I'm not quite sure where I said that. I do remember someone else with "aspie" in their username said something similar in a different thread within the last couple days.


Sorry! Fixed it now, it was Aspie1



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24 Mar 2014, 4:25 am

I seriously suspect this girl's real problem in dating is about not finding a 'chivalrous' guy. I bet there are plenty of guys who would date her and pay for the dates (since they are the ones who often ask out first) and do some chivalrous acts (putting on the coat, opening door and all this s**t).

Her real problem is that she wants a sugar rich guy who pays an X amount of date bill that she set in her mind while she's not that super bimbo model-looking that sugar guys usually date (she's above average looking but obviously not a model; edit: now I see her super ugly after watching the whole video).

She is probably going to die alone or settle with some unlucky not-so-rich fool whom she gonna leech like a vampire.

She reminds me a particular WP user who I am not gonna name now, yet I have named her a lot before and she knows herself. :lol:



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24 Mar 2014, 12:21 pm

What happened to all the good men? They never existed in the first place.


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