Are there any girls who LIKE short guys?
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^ I am not questioning your intention but I think you are getting some things wrong.
Billy Joe wasn't successful with girls because of height tricks, or that because he wore boots and hats that made him look taller, girls aren't that visually stupid. He succeeded because he was sociable strong, friendly and most importantly interesting over all. All the girls who went for him were certainly fully aware that he's very - very short. And in most societies, it's for the guy to say the first "hi" anyway.
Was Billy Joe some shortie socially inept nerd with different fashion before and he later metamorphosed into something else just to get girls?
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Yes it's very rare.
But however, when women here reply about this, suddenly ALL women (themselves and all the women they know) have dated a shorter guy in their past.

"It's not a disadvantage, it's all in your head, I've dated a shorter guy before" -


Every man under 5`8" is doomed to a life of solitude and rejection.

Where I said that?

If lack of height is such a disadvantage for men, I would conclude that would be the inevitable outcome. Why else would there be page upon page focusing on one physical attribute?<picking up violin>
Peter Dinklage is married, if it becomes a contest...
Again, I didn't say it has an inevitable outcome, I just named it as it is, a disadvantage, nothing more nothing less. Saying otherwise is burying the head in the sand.
Look it up in the dictionary:
An unfavorable circumstance or condition that reduces the chances of success or effectiveness.
^ Reduces, not kills.
It's a thread about shortness in guys, what else should we talk about here? Hair chest? Pimples? Poetry?
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You didn't see where I put that about learning to be more outgoing and stuff? When people feel that they look bad, they aren't going to be very outgoing or sociable. It would ruin even good social skills. Add AS into it and you have a big problem. Thats why a different look can make a difference. I know girls aren't going to be visually stupid. I told you, they aren't going to see the shoes and hat and think he's an NBA draft pick, it will just give the illusion of "short, but not that short" so he has the same chance that other short guys have. When you feel that you look better, it makes you feel better. It makes you feel more like speaking to somebody and like you actually have a chance, and when you feel like you actually have a chance then you start actually having chances.
I'm not an idiot, Boo. I have a clue as to what helps attract people. I also know he's not going to turn into Mr Charming overnight, but social skills are things he can work on as well and the better he feels he looks, the better he will do at learning them.
I think he will do fine as long as he doesn't do something really stupid, like send them pictures of his dick online.
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I think it's on the OP's top ten because he's only 5-1. Thats why I suggested the things I did. To distract from that somewhat, not to make them think he was tall, or even average height.
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Yes it's very rare.
But however, when women here reply about this, suddenly ALL women (themselves and all the women they know) have dated a shorter guy in their past.

"It's not a disadvantage, it's all in your head, I've dated a shorter guy before" -


Well, if you have any evidence that the women in my family *haven't* dated shorter guys, feel free to present it.
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The truth is.. Your going to have to settle for the leftovers.
Stop going for the hot women and maybe go for the girl that has a few extra pounds.
Focus on yourself:
Focus on career
Get clothes that highlight your body
Improve your personality so that you make people laugh (not with stupid jokes)
Become a respectable person.. Never show up empty handed
Lead by example
Pick up a book on body language and learn how to tell when a girl is interested in you usually it will be through eye contact. Don't be afraid to approach an engage in conversation.
And get rid of the little man complex. If that is in the back of your head than it will kill confidence.
(sorry if I'm repeating myself) Saw a divorced physics prof in my nabe strolling by with his new girlfriend last weekend. He's around my height, can't be taller than 5'3". I avoided him, but that's just cos I found him kinda pissy and humorless. Then again, there's nothing like a divorce for making one pissy and humorless.
No, shortness has never seemed like a liability to me. Dated/was involved with short and tall men. I'm just now noticing that I am in fact short -- it's my daughter's fault, she keeps growing -- but it's actually been kind of a pain to date tall guys, partly because I'm very soft-spoken. They can't frikken hear me all the way up there. And kissing, meh, I'm too old for that kind of acrobatics. Nice not having to play the "who gets to suffer when we walk together" game, too.
There'll be women who'd date a man of your height, yeah.
Tell me, have you had much experience of being a fat girl?
Man likes thin women, that's not even worth remarking on. Man likes larger women, that's a fetish?
"settle for a girl with a few extra pounds" - how's that?
"am I doomed to a girl with mental problems" - Yes. You'd be the doomed one in that scenario. Yes.
"because some feminists and MTV have sought to make the "hot guy" as common in culture as the hot girl, and thus raises standards in looks for women. Also, feminists try to equate being a short guy with being a fat woman. That "womyn" should give men a taste of their own medicine by being shallow. Being short is not an indication of poor taking care of oneself or laziness. Thats why such an equation is wrong."
OK, here's what we've got: the Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people under the supervision of the reverse vampires are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. We're through the looking glass, here, people...
Ah, nevermind. It's obviously the height.
Stop going for the hot women and maybe go for the girl that has a few extra pounds.
Wow. Keep it classy.

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Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.
You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.
There are guys who have fetishes for "BBW," and while yea its super niche and few/far between, there are also many guys who'll settle for a girl with a few extra pounds. Where is the converse? Or am I just useless and my existence a waste of oxygen? and I'm NOT into Asian/black/other girls, nothing personal, just don't find them attractive. In my favor, I'm preppy, I'm pretty talented at guitar, somewhat smart (I'm going to a top grad school), tho that last one might have not been there for my in college bc even tho I participated in class/knew a lot, we were at the college, which by association implied not being that smart. Where is my keep?
I would suggest your problem is more in having the attitude that dating a girl with a few extra pounds is "settling" than it is your height.
Nearly every woman (including those who are thin and beautiful) knows that she cannot predict her weight down the road, or how her looks will hold, and, thus, steers clear of men who make the types of remarks indicating they think physical attributes carry more importance than they should.
Music can be really sexy. And you can play guitar without revealing your height, ie while sitting down. With that you have the opportunity to have someone pretty well attracted to you before they ever even see your height. Provided you don't blow it by sounding superficially interested in perfect bodies the minute you open your mouth, or 'diss girls who struggle with their weight, or talk about how even unattractive girls can get a guy to F* them. You've used so many highly unattractive words and phrases; I strongly suggest focusing on fixing that, and not worrying about your height.
For the record, because Julia Childs was very tall, she apparently spent most of her dating years actively looking for a very tall man. But she found the love of her life in a very short one, and never looked back. People are going to love who they are going to love, and height will not change that.
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There are guys who have fetishes for "BBW," and while yea its super niche and few/far between, there are also many guys who'll settle for a girl with a few extra pounds. Where is the converse? Or am I just useless and my existence a waste of oxygen? and I'm NOT into Asian/black/other girls, nothing personal, just don't find them attractive. In my favor, I'm preppy, I'm pretty talented at guitar, somewhat smart (I'm going to a top grad school), tho that last one might have not been there for my in college bc even tho I participated in class/knew a lot, we were at the college, which by association implied not being that smart. Where is my keep?
I would suggest your problem is more in having the attitude that dating a girl with a few extra pounds is "settling" than it is your height.
Nearly every woman (including those who are thin and beautiful) knows that she cannot predict her weight down the road, or how her looks will hold, and, thus, steers clear of men who make the types of remarks indicating they think physical attributes carry more importance than they should.
Music can be really sexy. And you can play guitar without revealing your height, ie while sitting down. With that you have the opportunity to have someone pretty well attracted to you before they ever even see your height. Provided you don't blow it by sounding superficially interested in perfect bodies the minute you open your mouth, or 'diss girls who struggle with their weight, or talk about how even unattractive girls can get a guy to F* them. You've used so many highly unattractive words and phrases; I strongly suggest focusing on fixing that, and not worrying about your height.
For the record, because Julia Childs was very tall, she apparently spent most of her dating years actively looking for a very tall man. But she found the love of her life in a very short one, and never looked back. People are going to love who they are going to love, and height will not change that.
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good point about musicians, DW_a_mom. one of my favourite canadia musicians is sam roberts: he's tiny, but he's also really talented and super sexy (imo). i don't think thom yorke is exactly a bean-pole, either.

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