Would it be creepy to approach a hot stranger in the street?

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06 Jul 2014, 4:50 pm

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The people I meet through my job are the perfect opposite of what my "type" is and I'm not even interested in making friends with them, besides bonding is not required as I'm the boss. It's been a while since University and I don't belong to any sports clubs, or other activities. I'm new in this country and I only know like two people. I need a place to find pretty girls that I like and it so happens that the only place I regularly see my type is in the streets. Would it be creepy to approach a hot stranger in the streets if done in a polite and non insistent manner?


If you do this you will be accused of believing you're entitled to womens' bodies.



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06 Jul 2014, 4:51 pm

He sounds like a great guy, Vicky, and you're very lucky to have each other.

Biut, the way you met is similar to the way many people meet. You were at a meeting together, there were other people about and this was during a break when you'd pretty much expect people to chat and make conversation. That situation is very different from a random stranger approaching someone totally unexpectedly and right away making a very personal comment about their appearance.



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06 Jul 2014, 4:51 pm

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Are we still confused, by the way, about the misogyny-drenched environment here, and why more active moderation of sexism is necessary?


according to some, we have failed to produce any evidence whatsoever that said misogyny exists here: apparently it's all in our (either paranoid or conspiratorial) imaginations.


Now you're starting to get it!

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Go back to #AllWomen and have a read.


No. I honestly can't be bothered to waste my time reading that negative mind pollution for the same reason I don't bother watching horror movies. There's no sense in filling my head with negativity like that.

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Wow, just wow. A thread FULL of women (and men) saying it's creepy to approach strangers on the street based on their hotness, and yet here is our resident women's spokesperson again, saying that all of the women who have posted in this thread have NO idea what they're talking about.

goldfish, you are a man. Has it never occurred to you that while men may more universally appreciate comments on their looks from strangers, it is not something that is universally appreciated by women? In fact, so far, among all of the WP female membership, there have only been two women here who have said they appreciate getting comments on their looks from men who are total strangers. The rest of us have all said we find it creepy.

You have dismissed everything the majority of women here have said, and you have dismissed a preponderance of evidence presented to you in the many links posted elsewhere in this subforum on this topic (yes, you *skimmed* one of them, so clearly that makes you the expert), and yet you persist in believing that you speak for all women. You don't. As I've said before, you aren't a woman, you don't even have intimate knowledge of women through relationships. How could you possibly know what we think, how we feel? You can't. You don't have a clue.

The fact that someone prefers not to have their day interrupted by a random stranger hitting on them has very little to do with fear, nor is it nuts. What it is, is NOT GIVING US A CHOICE who we interact with. What the hell do you think women have been fighting for the last century? Yup, CHOICE.

So, until you have actually lived as a woman surrounded by men who are almost uniformly larger and stronger than you, and who have been putting words in your gender's mouths for centuries, stop pretending that you speak for all women.


Bolded the part that matters. WP members are typically socially impaired & cannot be relied upon as a social barometer for society at large. Further, the entirety of the female membership base here has not participated in these couple of threads.. so, really, there are but a handful of compliment haters here, not a forum full of them.

I never claimed to speak for all women. The irony is that you and others in these threads who happen to not like interacting with other people and fear compliments and so forth seem to think that you do speak for all women.

Ummm, newsflash... public places are not private places. No one in public gets to choose to interact with zero other people. People can choose to limit their interaction with others, but there's no social norm of everyone completely ignoring everyone else. If that's the lifestyle you're after, try agoraphobia. I hear it works great for that type of people.

Annnnd right back at ya.. stop pretending that you speak for all women.


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06 Jul 2014, 5:06 pm

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Marcia wrote:
Go back to #AllWomen and have a read.


No. I honestly can't be bothered to waste my time reading that negative mind pollution for the same reason I don't bother watching horror movies. There's no sense in filling my head with negativity like that.


So you'd rather go on talking shite. You're so keen to dismiss our opinions - because we're socially inadequate according to you, but you won't go and read the same opinions expressed by many thousands of women from all around the world. They can't all be autistic.

What you choose to dismiss as "negativity" is the lived reality of countless women, and has been for centuries.

Women's lives don't match your fantasy.



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06 Jul 2014, 5:15 pm

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He sounds like a great guy, Vicky, and you're very lucky to have each other.

Biut, the way you met is similar to the way many people meet. You were at a meeting together, there were other people about and this was during a break when you'd pretty much expect people to chat and make conversation. That situation is very different from a random stranger approaching someone totally unexpectedly and right away making a very personal comment about their appearance.


Marcia,Bobby is so awesome. I am so blessed to have him as my husband and best friend. I have always thought of myself as a super nice person, and I am,but NOTHING close to as nice and wonderful as Bobby.



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06 Jul 2014, 5:45 pm

Wow, such a bunch of crap has happened on this thread while I was busy having a life for a few hours!

Firstly, to Boo:

The REASON I mentioned that I dress conservatively and not in such a way that is normally considered to "attract" men was to illustrate MY SURPRISE at a man approaching me. My mention of that has NOTHING to do with accusing women who do dress attractively of "asking for it."
"Asking for it" are your words, not mine. I never even said anything of the sort AND YOU KNOW IT, sh!t-stirrer.

I pointed out my mode of dress because it's so freaking dowdy that it's weird a man even noticed me, let alone did something about it.

There are women who do dress in ways that are known to draw attention from men, and as you very well know, AND I KNOW TOO, none of them are asking for rape -- you're the fool who is putting words in my mouth and trying to start an argument. I don't waste my time with idiots like you. It's very clear that none of your troublemaking assumptions are even what I said, and that concluded the matter. No reply from you will be further replied to by me, as it's very clear you're a waste of time.

To golfish:
First of all, as others have said, you know NOTHING about being a woman. And nice try on assuming a bunch of stuff also, about a person or people here that you don't even know the first thing about, either on here or in real life.

I have no "fear" of "interaction with strangers," nor am I a "man hater," thank you for asking. :lol:

I'm also not completely socially inept, autistic or not. I've been married, hon. I've had many other relationships too. I'm one of the members here who have in fact managed to lead a very "normal" life socially -- boyfriends, marriage, jobs, and at various times many friends. Been a bit of a i[]strain [/i] but obviously the bottom line is that meeting people has not been a problem for me.

However, I met all these people in SOCIAL SETTINGS. Where there was more going on than just a total stranger crossing the street to accost me with superficial remarks about my outward physical appearance with no other context going on.

That is NOT the same as a genuine and sincere compliment on how nice I look. I've had those from a stranger on a street too, but those moments have to be handled with total grace by the strange man doing the complimenting, and usually with no agenda. When they are, FINE. But mostly they're not.

Now, I won't be taking part in a back-and-forth with you either, because clearly, like Boo, you're coming from a place that doesn't even want to understand the subtleties of someone's explanation for a different reality and a different set of experiences.

You're also a man. That disqualifies you from knowing the slightest thing about womens experiences within their skins and their lives. I speak as just one but I'm not alone in my point of view, although others can vary.

To vicki:

Your husband sounds wonderful and I'm truly glad for you.

However, he didn't pick you up as a stranger on the street. You two were at a social setting, and it was totally okay for him to speak to you. Although he was a bit forward with the very fast "are you married" question, that is NOT the same as a total stranger following me along the street going "Are you single? Are you single?".....


Finally, to Eureka13 -- THANK YOU. You get it.

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06 Jul 2014, 5:56 pm

Marcia wrote:
He sounds like a great guy, Vicky, and you're very lucky to have each other.

Biut, the way you met is similar to the way many people meet. You were at a meeting together, there were other people about and this was during a break when you'd pretty much expect people to chat and make conversation. That situation is very different from a random stranger approaching someone totally unexpectedly and right away making a very personal comment about their appearance.


Right, exactly, Vicky, you were at a sociable event amongst people with similar interests. People expect to be social and make conversation at events like that. I'll admit that when a guy comes up to me at a meeting, and comes on that strong right away, I'm pretty seriously turned off. Like to the point where if he's running the meeting, I'd decide I could find another organization or cause that could use my time, because I don't want to be fending off that kind of stuff when I'm trying to get some community work done. If there's attraction while we're talking and he wants to invite me out for a coffee or something, that's fine.



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06 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm

All joking aside, why is the focus in this thread strictly on women? Why not let men in on it?

Let me put it a different way: Do hot people get creeped out when approached in the street? I automatically don't count since I'm not a hot person. But if I were, it wouldn't creep me out. I'm the kind of PERSON who'd actually prefer another PERSON making the first move. That I'm male and prefer females isn't necessarily relevant here.

Although there was that one weird moment a gay man didn't seriously believe I don't do guys, like I'm in denial or something. He happened to meet my gf without realizing she was with me and started going on about that cute clarinet player's sexy legs. She was, like, "that's my bf," and he was like "shut the freak up!" I think at that point he finally accepted I wasn't in denial or anything.

I was more amused than creeped out, but maybe it was a LITTLE creepy and awkward. Otherwise, I don't find it all that creepy.

I think maybe it CAN be creepy sometimes if the hot person in question is not the kind of person you might enjoy getting to know.



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06 Jul 2014, 7:29 pm

Listen, I'm not encouraging guys to run up to strange women and start complimenting them wildly, but I think you all are in denial that some women really like it. There are women that are really confident and believe THEY SHOULD be complimented, as long as it's done in a non-creepy way. I know many women. Men can make jokes when they compliment, it can be easy and fun.

Many people have started Long Happy relationships by the man complimenting the woman. My grandparents met when he saw her at his friends house Scrubbing the FLOOR! On her Hand and KNees! They were married for 75 years because he told her she was pretty at that moment.

Life is not always so super dangerous and serious. Let some people have fun, even if that kind of fun isn't for us. (Probably if I wasn't convinced that I'm not pretty, or wanted to doll myself up, I wouldn't mind if some guy told me that I was).

I can't even believe this has turned into WWIII. Many future long happy relationships will start the same way whether you approve of it or not.



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06 Jul 2014, 8:14 pm

starvingartist wrote:
tarantella64 wrote:
Are we still confused, by the way, about the misogyny-drenched environment here, and why more active moderation of sexism is necessary?


according to some, we have failed to produce any evidence whatsoever that said misogyny exists here: apparently it's all in our (either paranoid or conspiratorial) imaginations.


Actually, if this is really what you two think is "misogyny drenched", I can hardly think of a better argument against your definition of the term. We've got a guy asking about the social dynamics of chatting up women in public, and one guy arguing that it is in fact okay (plus one woman, who was immediately told to shut up because she doesn't count). That one guy is being personally attacked with some armchair psychoanalysis, and has been reported to the mods for having the temerity to disagree with the feminist position on the issue. Yeah, a real hotbed of sexism here... :roll:


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06 Jul 2014, 8:30 pm

I believe he was reported because he was resorting to name-calling.

wozeree, your grandfather met your grandmother at a friend's house. No one here is arguing about chatting someone up under those circumstances! Actually, no one is arguing against chatting up anyone at any time. Further, no one is arguing against paying compliments to random strangers. What we are arguing against is a man (specifically) trying to pick up an unknown-to-him lone woman (specifically) on the street or in a shop by approaching her and commenting on her appearance.

You want to try to pick up a woman on the street or in a shop (i.e., anywhere besides a recognized social occasion, such as a party, a club meeting, through mutual friends, at a bar, even if she's somewhere with one or more other women, etc.)? Approach her and ask for directions. Approach her and ask where she got her cool t-shirt. Approach her and ask about the book she's reading. Approach her with ANYTHING but a remark on her looks!

There are a couple of people here who are insisting that we are arguing that no one should ever pay anyone a compliment, ever, in any setting, or for any reason. That is totally not the case.



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06 Jul 2014, 8:38 pm

Eureka13 wrote:
I believe he was reported because he was resorting to name-calling.

wozeree, your grandfather met your grandmother at a friend's house. No one here is arguing about chatting someone up under those circumstances! Actually, no one is arguing against chatting up anyone at any time. Further, no one is arguing against paying compliments to random strangers. What we are arguing against is a man (specifically) trying to pick up an unknown-to-him lone woman (specifically) on the street or in a shop by approaching her and commenting on her appearance.

You want to try to pick up a woman on the street or in a shop (i.e., anywhere besides a recognized social occasion, such as a party, a club meeting, through mutual friends, at a bar, even if she's somewhere with one or more other women, etc.)? Approach her and ask for directions. Approach her and ask where she got her cool t-shirt. Approach her and ask about the book she's reading. Approach her with ANYTHING but a remark on her looks!

There are a couple of people here who are insisting that we are arguing that no one should ever pay anyone a compliment, ever, in any setting, or for any reason. That is totally not the case.


That certainly is the safer and more interesting tactic.



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06 Jul 2014, 8:49 pm

Eureka13 wrote:
I believe he was reported because he was resorting to name-calling.


Where? I looked through all his posts in this thread, and there's no name-calling, and no edits either, certainly not in the post that was reported.


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06 Jul 2014, 9:11 pm

nothing wrong with talking to pretty girls you see on the street
or at coffee shop,the gym,work,stores or any where.
I do all the time(or some times)and most time
I get a nice reaction. expect when I whistle at pretty girls.



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06 Jul 2014, 9:37 pm

Mate, whistling at girls is so cringey. It's also a good way to get yourself a slap or, if the girl's boyfriend is around, a hospital visit, so not really a wise move.
There's nothing wrong with talking to random girls, but complimenting their appearance the first time you meet them -- that's usually gonna be a little creepy to them. People really need to stop putting so much on each other's looks, too. I see so many men saying "I just want a pretty girl", or women gushing over men who are attractive but are total dickheads but going for looks alone is a great way to get hurt. When you truly love someone, when you meet someone whose personality is a perfect fit for you romantically, they will look amazing to you all the time. At least that's what it's been like for me, and friends of mine have said the same thing. The problem is a lot of very attractive people know full well how hot they are and this can turn them into arrogant a***holes. Every member of every boy band that's ever existed, for example


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07 Jul 2014, 12:05 am

I used to work with a guy that would literally holler at girls in his vicinity, nothing rude, just "hey girl, come over an talk to me" kind of stuff. I always used to cringe when he'd do it, as it seemed so ridiculous, but about 10% of the time it would actually work, a girl would come over to talk to him, and he'd get a phone number or something. Even most of the girls that didn't come over would smile and wave or something, I can't say that I ever really saw an indication that the attention was unwelcome. Would I approach women in that way? Hell no, but it seemed to work for him, so I can't entirely discount the method.


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