When does a woman owe you sex chart

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I know that you didn't but you didn't read the linked article with which this chart was taken from and that article did imply that.



Ditto.



1. The original article, in fact, did imply that sexual frustration is the same thing as demanding sex from another person.

2. Nobody owes anybody sex. However, whether male or female, you do not owe necessarily owe your partner a guarantee that you will stay with them forever and you are allowed to leave them if you are unhappy in that relationship for whatever reason. If you're unhappy because you're sexually frustrated, then it's still your choice ether to stay with them or not. My point was not that there were some women who feel that men owed them sex, my point was that if they feel that sex is important to them in a relationship and they're frustrated by not getting any, they have the choice to leave or whether they want to stay in it. The same with men.

There isn't.
Only a moron that hasn't the slightest beginning of a clue about men would think this about men.

I quoted her, but I was referring to the original article and talking about it in that context. I know that she didn't say them.

BS.
Most men don't like hurting the things they like.


(god, I can't even spell the and they right)

Maybe so but to fair, it's actually true that marital rape was only recognised in law fairly recently. So, what she's saying is true.

What's being claimed by that implication is not true.

Claiming that men think they are owed sex is the same as claiming men are rapists.

Some men think they are owed sex, some do not. I've met the most different men in my life.

Not all men think this way,but some think that if they buy dinner you owe them something in return.If you are not into them they come back with names like dick tease,frigid.dyke,ice princess,user,etc...
Of couser there are some women that will go out with a man to get something,gold diggers,neither sex is perfect.

...No. It might be an annoying generalization, but it's not the same as calling them 'rapists', even if some rapists act on a sense of self-entitlement. Maybe I missed something, but I don't remember anyone saying that 'all' or 'most' men think they're owed sex. I think everyone was just calling attention to the fact that some do.

I was pointing out the fact that in many countries the legal concept of marital rape is a recent one - within the past maybe 3 decades or so. A woman was deemed to have given her consent when she got married and so legally her husband was entitled to have sex with her, whether she consented on that particular day or not. She had given consent when she got married, so she had no recourse to law. The law did not, and still in a number of countries does not, recognise that a woman had any right to refuse to have sex with her husband. So, in the recent past and currently (depending on location), a husband was and is, in law, entitled to have sex with his wife, even if she does not consent at that particular time.

If I recall correctly, the case which brought about the change in law in England related to a husband and wife who had separated. She was no longer living in the marital home, but had moved in with her parents. Her estranged husband when to her parents' home when she was there alone, and had non-consensual sex with her. It wasn't so much the fact that the sex was non-consensual that was the deciding factor in the case so much that the non-consensual sex didn't take place in the marital home. She had left the marital home, and the marriage, so her lawyers were able to argue that it was in fact rape. The law was changed after that to recognise marital rape as a criminal offence.

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I'm not down with this whole notion of "withholding", which implies I've got something that belongs to you, and am not letting you have it (generic pronouns).

If I'm having sex, it's because I actively want to have sex with that person. If I'm not having sex, I'm not "withholding" it. There isn't anything that belongs to the other person that I'm playing keep-away with. I just don't want to have sex. Similarly, when my various boyfriends haven't been up for it whenever, they haven't been "withholding" it from me. They just didn't want sex.

If you're involved with someone who plays passive-aggressive head games, actually wanting sex but not having it with you in order to manipulate you -- well, that's f****d up. Because of the manipulation part. And that, not the no-sexytimes, is why you should go.

Er... no. Wait! You are Andrea Dworkin and I claim my five pounds!

Thanks for this post. The "withholding" thing bothered me too.

Here ya go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape

Still happens a lot, actually. I hear the most insane stories from some women about their husbands, esp. the religious ones. My kid's violin teacher used to pull all nighters during what she figured were her fertile times because her husband insisted he should get more kids, and she'd had horrible postpartum depression with the last two, and she knew that if she lay down and fell asleep, she'd wake up with him on top of her. It took her a while to get educated enough to be able to get independent with four kids.

1401b: She is saying there was no law preventing a man from having sex with his wife whenever he wanted until recently. This meant their was no way a woman COULD say no; a de-facto legalization of rape in marriage. This more recent change in law is true now in many places, but not everywhere.

If you think some men do not hurt their wives or other women they "like", even kill them, then you are really out of touch with the real world, and, clearly, do not know what it is like to be a woman.

PS: I do not hate men or women or other creatures for what they are. But I do hate some ideas.