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31 Jul 2014, 3:47 pm

Here, NK, it was written just for you. Don't take it too literally.

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31 Jul 2014, 5:54 pm

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Not going to lie, I've decided that if I'm really unhappy with my social/love life when I'm 35, I've decided I'd rather end it all or do this mail order thing - I'll have company and her family will have sustenance, so it's a win-win. I definitely wouldn't treat her like a sex slave and I'd be super careful with my finances as well. The "advantage" of her family living in a poorer country is that the living costs are much lower. There are so many factors I would need to be careful about and there's no guarantee she wouldn't divorce me ASAP but by that point I'll be desperate enough to take the risk using all kinds of precautions.

I've still got 8 years until those kinds of extreme measures though.


one friend and my ex- brother-in-law did the "mail order thing." They are both extrememly happy. My brother i law, who was married to a monster [my sister] for years, had never even realized so much happiness was possible. His wife is becoming a fairly succesful clothing designer, and her daughter, who was 10 when moving to the states and knew no english, was her schools valedictorian this past May.



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31 Jul 2014, 5:58 pm

That's a nice story.



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31 Jul 2014, 9:54 pm

MODERATOR WARNING:

While there's nothing wrong with chatting about experiences dating abroad, I'm going to have to caution everyone not to go down the, "American women are all superficial and spoiled," route. We're not there yet, but some posts are on the line, and I'd hate to have to disappear this thread on account of sexism.

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01 Aug 2014, 2:08 am

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For some reason the idea of getting a Russian or Ukrainian mail-order bride kind of appeals to me, which is weird because I don't ever actually want to get married. It's just this sexist fantasy I have about having an attractive foreign woman who will cook and clean for me.

Wow, I feel terrible just saying that. Why am I such a pig?


Hey, I had a longstanding fantasy about some nice Vassar girl of the 50s who'd type my manuscripts and take care of everything and just be sweet and unobtrusively sophisticated as hell. You know, the personification of Ambush. (It's an old perfume.) Then I realized she'd probably be annoyed that I don't really want sex with girls, and that she'd probably talk a lot, and besides, what kind of crap move is it to enslave someone like that.

Then I hired a cleaning lady and it was All Better. No kidding. Especially since I not only paid her, but introduced her to the world of NSF grad fellowships. (College student.) Unfortunately she got serious about her lab work after that, so I'll have to find someone else. Still. Cleaning ladies. Amazing people. Someday I may even hire a kid to take care of the gardens, wowie.

Oh. Wait, that's different, isn't it. I really just had a fantasy about a clean house, kid picked up from school, etc.


I know right? Just that idea of being a 1950's gentleman with a nice house, a good career, and a wife who goes out of her way to make me happy... I'm sure a lot of guys fantasize about this, I know I do, but at the same time, I also feel it's kinda wrong. Why? Because it's sexist and demeaning, and it's just not how things work anymore. Also, I'm the kind of guy who likes to do things himself, and ordering someone around is just not in my character.



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01 Aug 2014, 3:08 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
tarantella64 wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
For some reason the idea of getting a Russian or Ukrainian mail-order bride kind of appeals to me, which is weird because I don't ever actually want to get married. It's just this sexist fantasy I have about having an attractive foreign woman who will cook and clean for me.

Wow, I feel terrible just saying that. Why am I such a pig?


Hey, I had a longstanding fantasy about some nice Vassar girl of the 50s who'd type my manuscripts and take care of everything and just be sweet and unobtrusively sophisticated as hell. You know, the personification of Ambush. (It's an old perfume.) Then I realized she'd probably be annoyed that I don't really want sex with girls, and that she'd probably talk a lot, and besides, what kind of crap move is it to enslave someone like that.

Then I hired a cleaning lady and it was All Better. No kidding. Especially since I not only paid her, but introduced her to the world of NSF grad fellowships. (College student.) Unfortunately she got serious about her lab work after that, so I'll have to find someone else. Still. Cleaning ladies. Amazing people. Someday I may even hire a kid to take care of the gardens, wowie.

Oh. Wait, that's different, isn't it. I really just had a fantasy about a clean house, kid picked up from school, etc.


I know right? Just that idea of being a 1950's gentleman with a nice house, a good career, and a wife who goes out of her way to make me happy... I'm sure a lot of guys fantasize about this, I know I do, but at the same time, I also feel it's kinda wrong. Why? Because it's sexist and demeaning, and it's just not how things work anymore. Also, I'm the kind of guy who likes to do things himself, and ordering someone around is just not in my character.


Old habits don't die easily, a lot of women still yearn for that gender-roles fantasy:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasse ... ing-women/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasse ... y-results/


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More than 10% of stay-at-home moms regret giving up their career. Both working (84%) and stay-at-home moms (66%) agree that being able to stop working to raise children is a financial luxury, yet 38% of stay-at-home moms feel guilty about not going back to work, and 13% even regret giving up their career for their baby.

Moms feel resentment toward their partners. Whether they?re working or not, moms overall say they feel resentful toward their partners. Of the stay-at-home moms surveyed, 15% agree that they resent their partner for being the one to continue working after baby was born. More than a third of working moms (36%) agree that sometimes they resent their partner for not making enough money for them to stay home with the baby/kids.

Approximately half of working moms agree their overall happiness would increase if they didn?t work. More than a third (34%) of working moms admit that their work performance was slacking a bit and they wished they were home with baby after returning to work. In fact, 47% agree that their overall happiness would increase if they weren?t working. On the other hand, only nearly one in five (19%) of stay-at-home moms admit their overall happiness would increase if they worked outside the home.



That's why, you as a male, if you are making good money (and a sane person), then chances are high that you will be seen very desirable by a lot of women (who wish to be stay at home moms).



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01 Aug 2014, 10:14 am

Well, I must say, there are times I have fantasized about being a housewife*, after three decades of supporting husbands (not all at the same time!) who neither contributed to the household income nor helped with anything around the house.

*At the age I am now, I think it would be called "retirement." But it's not yet something I can afford to do without another household income. I'm more likely to win the lottery, however, than I would be willing to find myself a sugar daddy.



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01 Aug 2014, 10:52 am

I'm actually dating someone from Asia myself, In particular, from Singapore.
Now, i often cop a heap of crap from my friends and peers at work, about the fact that she's Asian. They often ask me some stupidly racist questions, most of which are along the lines of the whole mail-order-bride thing. The thing is, She's smart, devastatingly pretty, and also, she (like me) also has AS, and weirdly, has been really understanding and loving towards me. She's a keeper, is all i can say.

In the past, i've dated girls of several nationalities. My previous relationship was with a Filipino girl. She was a mother already, had a young child, that unfortunately, was at home (in Davao City) with the father. Honestly, she was one of the sweetest, kindest girls i ever met. She may have come from a disadvantaged country, but she was actually really nice. If you do decide to go ahead with it all, do remember that some girls are simply after your citizenship, like this one time when i dated a Vietnamese girl who wanted to marry me like, a month after i met her... whilst others, like the girl i previously mentioned, are simply looking for someone to love. It's all about the balance, really. Usually you can tell if someone's after your citizenship, they tend to want to rush things, where as girls who want a proper relationship, will be acceptant of the pace you want to take.

As for the whole Mail-Order-Bride thing, i find it to be both immoral, and in all honesty, stupid. I believe that a relationship is based solely on good communication. Being able to actually understand your partner, and share stuff that you have in common, makes a relationship fun, and worthwhile. If you're looking for someone to control, or be overbearing to, due to an "Alpha Stance" personality, than you need to find someone who communicates in that way. Love's a really weird thing. Different lovers communicate in different ways. Some do it through simple gestures, others do it through fetishes.

OP, I think you have to actually look for what _you_ want in a person, and to understand who you are as a person, and let the right person come to you, instead of worrying about being alone forever. I speak from experience, as my partner and i didn't technically ask eachother out, we just... Happened. All the girls i've physically seeked to find in desperation, have all been incompatible with me. The one girl in whom i've let come to me? She's been nothing but peaches and cream.



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01 Aug 2014, 12:40 pm

I come from a country where trolls are a national symbol. While traditionally a troublesome pest for man with loss of livestock and men today we have an agreement about supplying them with foreign criminals, paedophiles, people getting their seventh non minor offence, and all the Lebanese restaurant owners well known for poisoning everyone.

Today I was at a nature preserve, it`s a well known habitat for sea trolls. Btw another troll at sea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_A_platform

Sea trolls sometimes like to marinate and ferment their food in algaepools by the shore.
By the smell from this pool I think it recently have been Libanese there.
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Me standing where the local population of sea trolls are fed at night twice a month.
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Seriously I am not a troll. If you are provoked or have some moral issue with what I write I have no damn interest in it, you can start new threads for such pointless discussion. If you have a face full of poo and just want to make fun of everything please avoid my threads where I ask about something specific.

I invite The face of Boo to send me his post address by PM, if so I will send him a few nice postcards when travelling again, including any progress or lack of in this matter.



I found a Norwegian aspie my age with a wife from the Philippines, it was working good for the third year. I also found a NOR aspie man having been fooled by his former Thai wife, but this man seemed extremely naive in general.



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04 Aug 2014, 5:34 am

I am not against marrying a foreigner woman, I am against mail order concept or to seek out wives who are specifically desperate for husbands from a rich country - big difference.

What's ironic that those guys who complain about how their local women are materialistic and shallow, promote in the same time a niche of foreign women whom their goal in life is to get a white husband and getting into his wealthy country. This very niche is a minefield of gold/greencard diggers, then why those latter are seen as generally less materialistic than western women?? It makes no sense, this is what I am not understanding, I find this to be very hypocritical - just be honest and say there's a higher chance that a foreign woman of this niche would want to marry you but stop saying they are generally less materialistic than your local women.



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04 Aug 2014, 5:40 am

Nordmann wrote:
I come from a country where trolls are a national symbol. While traditionally a troublesome pest for man with loss of livestock and men today we have an agreement about supplying them with foreign criminals, paedophiles, people getting their seventh non minor offence, and all the Lebanese restaurant owners well known for poisoning everyone.

Today I was at a nature preserve, it`s a well known habitat for sea trolls. Btw another troll at sea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_A_platform

Sea trolls sometimes like to marinate and ferment their food in algaepools by the shore.
By the smell from this pool I think it recently have been Libanese there.
Image

Me standing where the local population of sea trolls are fed at night twice a month.
Image


Seriously I am not a troll. If you are provoked or have some moral issue with what I write I have no damn interest in it, you can start new threads for such pointless discussion. If you have a face full of poo and just want to make fun of everything please avoid my threads where I ask about something specific.

I invite The face of Boo to send me his post address by PM, if so I will send him a few nice postcards when travelling again, including any progress or lack of in this matter.



I found a Norwegian aspie my age with a wife from the Philippines, it was working good for the third year. I also found a NOR aspie man having been fooled by his former Thai wife, but this man seemed extremely naive in general.




I don't know where you come from nor I care, but I find your racist pathetic attempt of humor to be tasteless and nauseating at best. Don't bet that foreign women would like that in you.



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05 Aug 2014, 7:10 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
That's a nice story.


:lol: Cool story sista!



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06 Aug 2014, 10:17 am

rtmpgt wrote:
I'm actually dating someone from Asia myself, In particular, from Singapore.
Now, i often cop a heap of crap from my friends and peers at work, about the fact that she's Asian. They often ask me some stupidly racist questions, most of which are along the lines of the whole mail-order-bride thing. The thing is, She's smart, devastatingly pretty, and also, she (like me) also has AS, and weirdly, has been really understanding and loving towards me. She's a keeper, is all i can say.

In the past, i've dated girls of several nationalities. My previous relationship was with a Filipino girl. She was a mother already, had a young child, that unfortunately, was at home (in Davao City) with the father. Honestly, she was one of the sweetest, kindest girls i ever met. She may have come from a disadvantaged country, but she was actually really nice. If you do decide to go ahead with it all, do remember that some girls are simply after your citizenship, like this one time when i dated a Vietnamese girl who wanted to marry me like, a month after i met her... whilst others, like the girl i previously mentioned, are simply looking for someone to love. It's all about the balance, really. Usually you can tell if someone's after your citizenship, they tend to want to rush things, where as girls who want a proper relationship, will be acceptant of the pace you want to take.

As for the whole Mail-Order-Bride thing, i find it to be both immoral, and in all honesty, stupid. I believe that a relationship is based solely on good communication. Being able to actually understand your partner, and share stuff that you have in common, makes a relationship fun, and worthwhile. If you're looking for someone to control, or be overbearing to, due to an "Alpha Stance" personality, than you need to find someone who communicates in that way. Love's a really weird thing. Different lovers communicate in different ways. Some do it through simple gestures, others do it through fetishes.

OP, I think you have to actually look for what _you_ want in a person, and to understand who you are as a person, and let the right person come to you, instead of worrying about being alone forever. I speak from experience, as my partner and i didn't technically ask eachother out, we just... Happened. All the girls i've physically seeked to find in desperation, have all been incompatible with me. The one girl in whom i've let come to me? She's been nothing but peaches and cream.


I'm married and plan on staying married, but the benefit of other spectrum dwellers, and a curious me, could you explain how you happen to find another person with AS?

My wife might be on the spectrum, but I try not to bring the topic up when I seem to have more characteristics more than she does. As my father would say, "No sense tugging on Superman's cape." I met her through a common friend.



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08 Jan 2015, 1:26 pm

It was a stroke of luck, really. We met at a comic book store... Or a "Manga Shop" rather. No special dating services, no online whatevers, it was a "Girl in the bookstore" Scenario. Except, she came to me.

To be honest, my case is incredibly mild, almost un-noticable. However, that's probably due to the fact that my parents kicked me out when i was younger. Sadly i've had to learn how to socialise the hard way. Her case, however, is a little more severe than mine is. She was quite talkative, i'm more of a listener. We balance eachother out, really. She's had training on how to talk to people, i haven't.



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