aside from sperm, what good are men?

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01 Jul 2016, 9:16 pm

My husband is taller than me, so he can reach things on high shelves and see small items on top of the refrigerator.
Also, he helps me move furniture. Not that I'm weak (I'm actually a freakishly strong woman) but some things are a two-person job. I suppose if I had a lesbian wife she would also help move things, though, so maybe that one doesn't count. The height thing, though....yeah.



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01 Jul 2016, 9:19 pm

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My husband is taller than me, so he can reach things on high shelves and see small items on top of the refrigerator.
Also, he helps me move furniture. Not that I'm weak (I'm actually a freakishly strong woman) but some things are a two-person job. I suppose if I had a lesbian wife she would also help move things, though, so maybe that one doesn't count. The height thing, though....yeah.


AND someone who is tall can change LIGHT BULBS!


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01 Jul 2016, 9:20 pm

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My husband is taller than me, so he can reach things on high shelves and see small items on top of the refrigerator.
Also, he helps me move furniture. Not that I'm weak (I'm actually a freakishly strong woman) but some things are a two-person job. I suppose if I had a lesbian wife she would also help move things, though, so maybe that one doesn't count. The height thing, though....yeah.


how tall are you and your husband if you don't mind me asking?



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Men are part of the reproduction cycle. A SMALL part, you could say integral but small. so why do we need so many of us? survival of the fittest would kick in right? and I am ok with being left behind, as I am not competitive, and as much as I want a Girlfriend/Wife of my own I don't have the heart to attempt and get crushed. My issue here, is while I am no prince charming, I look around at the men that girls do end up with and my heart hurts. I watch it constantly happening, and then men wonder why women treat them so coldly... I know while I would treat a girl better, I couldn't stand up to competition. I have severe anxiety. I won't deny the few times I have asked girls out I have always gotten a yes. but these "relationships" just further pointed out my flaws. all of this leads to this simple yet devastating problem: Logic VS Desire. I desire a relationship, but I logically know I wouldn't do good in one. and while I won't attempt suicide as their are other things I can do in this world. this fact brings me to tears everyday. it hurts, I want to not be Loved, but Logically It would be pointless. sorry for my rant, I just feel like crap and wanted to post this somewhere.

P.S. As I am a logical based person, I would like to state that's all this is a "RANT". you can respond but don't expect me to reply.


Human children are resource intensive and a man helps maximize the survival of his offspring by sticking around and helping to raise them.

Besides, I happen to like men and I wouldn't want to share one.



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01 Jul 2016, 11:38 pm

well, aside from the people who only read snippets on my answers and then replied. Then the people who read most of it and started going off on an EMOTIONAL point about it. The only direct answer I got was from the guy who talked about competition; and he wrote my exact point. The fact is, unless you are competitive as a guy, you don't move forward. there is no get of of jail free card. When I said women had it 100% easier, I meant relationships. Women have never had to do much. Men fight for you and you just have to pick and choose. and what of the ones that don't fight? and you wonder why War is such a common practice... everything comes back... ever meet an honest politician?


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02 Jul 2016, 1:58 am

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well, aside from the people who only read snippets on my answers and then replied. Then the people who read most of it and started going off on an EMOTIONAL point about it. The only direct answer I got was from the guy who talked about competition; and he wrote my exact point. The fact is, unless you are competitive as a guy, you don't move forward. there is no get of of jail free card. When I said women had it 100% easier, I meant relationships. Women have never had to do much. Men fight for you and you just have to pick and choose. and what of the ones that don't fight? and you wonder why War is such a common practice... everything comes back... ever meet an honest politician?



Don't you need multiple options of guys to date at once to 'pick and choose' I've certainly not experienced that nor have I had guys 'fighting' over me. Also, guess what people have emotions, and emotions play into relationships...competition isn't everything in life.


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02 Jul 2016, 2:04 am

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Evolutionarily there really only needs to be about 10% of the men there is now, way way less than half especially now with less and less need for physical labor or protection both from physical and economic harm. There isn't 1 for everyone, there is 1 for 5 or maybe 10 you're just lucky if you fall into there. People will say you are more than your reproductive organs which is true to a certain degree but it goes a long way in determining the life and people you will meet along the way; there is a reason why men use more drugs, drink more alcohol, fall into criminality, die younger, far more riskier behavior. In terms of relationships, women are completely dominant so tough **** if you find yourself in an outgroup of some undesirables. Like I have all my issues, I have all my anxieties, this disability, it doesn't matter how hard I try when that are hundreds of other guys in the same situation or more likely way better off than I am to compete with.

I don't think too many men and women are friends with each other, at least that has been my experience.


On average it could be men use more drugs, drink more, fall into criminality, die younger and have riskier behavior, though I have not seen this data anywhere for myself. But that is 'on average' some of you here forget people are individuals...statistics don't usually represent outliers. It is not only males that kind find themselves in an out-group or considered to be in an undesirable demographic. I've felt like a weird outcast most of my life and I'm female, and I am sure there are males that have indulged in much less drugs, alcohol and risky behavior than me and some that have indulged in a lot more...its not all to do with gender individual people don't nessisarily fit statistical norms. Don't know if i've made my point clear or not but it's an attempt.


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02 Jul 2016, 2:10 am

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well, aside from the people who only read snippets on my answers and then replied. Then the people who read most of it and started going off on an EMOTIONAL point about it. The only direct answer I got was from the guy who talked about competition; and he wrote my exact point. The fact is, unless you are competitive as a guy, you don't move forward. there is no get of of jail free card. When I said women had it 100% easier, I meant relationships. Women have never had to do much. Men fight for you and you just have to pick and choose. and what of the ones that don't fight? and you wonder why War is such a common practice... everything comes back... ever meet an honest politician?


You're disillusioned, dude. Women have other women to compete with. Men want decent looking women - so then we have to do exercise, diet, hair color, makeup, nails, cosmetic surgery up the ass because we have to worry about looking as young as we can and as long as we can and men expect women to have some sort of education and job because they don't want to go out with a dud. My point is, if a woman wants a decent guy, she has to do alot. It's not just waiting for her so called "prince" to show up. And I sure don't see any guys fighting for anyone these days - the women are way more freer these days chasing the guys. If you aren't a woman who goes after the "most wanted" men, then you will lose out. And we have our time clocks ticking the whole time. I think men have it much easier - you can date way younger women or older women and can always have kids - society never frowns. All you need to do is just find a way to make lots of money - you can even be butt-ugly.


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02 Jul 2016, 2:11 am

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Evolutionarily there really only needs to be about 10% of the men there is now, way way less than half especially now with less and less need for physical labor or protection both from physical and economic harm. There isn't 1 for everyone, there is 1 for 5 or maybe 10 you're just lucky if you fall into there. People will say you are more than your reproductive organs which is true to a certain degree but it goes a long way in determining the life and people you will meet along the way; there is a reason why men use more drugs, drink more alcohol, fall into criminality, die younger, far more riskier behavior. In terms of relationships, women are completely dominant so tough **** if you find yourself in an outgroup of some undesirables. Like I have all my issues, I have all my anxieties, this disability, it doesn't matter how hard I try when that are hundreds of other guys in the same situation or more likely way better off than I am to compete with.

I don't think too many men and women are friends with each other, at least that has been my experience.


Only males can find themselves in an out-group of some undesirables? that's curious.


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02 Jul 2016, 2:12 am

None. You should join the Male Extinction Project.


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02 Jul 2016, 2:13 am

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If you aren't a woman who goes after the "most wanted" men, then you will lose out. And we have our time clocks ticking the whole time. I think men have it easier. Just find a way to make lots of money - you can even be butt-ugly.


Hmm I didn't do that, and certainly did not lose out as far as I can tell.


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Jacoby wrote:
Evolutionarily there really only needs to be about 10% of the men there is now, way way less than half especially now with less and less need for physical labor or protection both from physical and economic harm. There isn't 1 for everyone, there is 1 for 5 or maybe 10 you're just lucky if you fall into there. People will say you are more than your reproductive organs which is true to a certain degree but it goes a long way in determining the life and people you will meet along the way; there is a reason why men use more drugs, drink more alcohol, fall into criminality, die younger, far more riskier behavior. In terms of relationships, women are completely dominant so tough **** if you find yourself in an outgroup of some undesirables. Like I have all my issues, I have all my anxieties, this disability, it doesn't matter how hard I try when that are hundreds of other guys in the same situation or more likely way better off than I am to compete with.

I don't think too many men and women are friends with each other, at least that has been my experience.


Only males can find themselves in an out-group of some undesirables? that's curious.


disproportionately


Do you have a source where this information comes from? That said perhaps more males than females experience this kind of thing...but doesn't mean that females can't also experience it or that it's somehow less worse should it happen to a female. I mean I never fit in with most other females nor have I really fit in with most people in general....I thought people on an autism forum might understand such struggles but I guess that's only if I were male? I guess only statistics are important around here not individual experiences.


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02 Jul 2016, 2:26 am

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If you aren't a woman who goes after the "most wanted" men, then you will lose out. And we have our time clocks ticking the whole time. I think men have it easier. Just find a way to make lots of money - you can even be butt-ugly.


Hmm I didn't do that, and certainly did not lose out as far as I can tell.


And that's your opinion. My opinion is I can't find anyone worthy enough. I guess I'm just getting a little pissed off listening to these guys belly ache about their circumstances. I didn't have anyone fighting for me and I'm not bad looking. I have a decent job, I'm smart so what the hell is my problem? It's pretty much too late now to think about having any family, and if I date younger then society calls me a cougar. The men I'm expected to date are sometimes divorced 2 times by now, have several kids. I missed out because I wasn't as forward as the rest, but women have it just sooooooo much easier. BS! Men need to quit their bitching and move on with life. Quit feeling sorry for yourself because it will get you no where. I'm tired of hearing about it.


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If you aren't a woman who goes after the "most wanted" men, then you will lose out. And we have our time clocks ticking the whole time. I think men have it easier. Just find a way to make lots of money - you can even be butt-ugly.


Hmm I didn't do that, and certainly did not lose out as far as I can tell.


Can uou imagine Angela dating a metal head though?



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02 Jul 2016, 2:32 am

It is numbers when it comes down to it, there are exceptions to everything but there always is a general trend of things. The spectrum is what it is; you already have the male to female ratio to begin with and I think the female gender role is more forgiving to those on the spectrum than the male gender role so it is sort of hard to relate in regards to relationships if we're talking pure numbers.

I remember a lot of your lonely depressed posts tho from not so long ago, I know you had your struggles and it's great someone nice found you but you should understand ranting and anguishing about your life situation on a support forum. Considering your life situation before do you think it would of been easier or harder to find a partner if you were a man?

I wouldn't take things personally either, to tell you the truth I don't even know anybody on the spectrum irl let alone a girl so this is me looking in upon the NT world from my lonely isolated one. I can only comment from my perspective, I cannot factor in everybody's experience but that doesn't mean other people's experiences aren't worth as much as mine. They're probably worth more considering the deficit I'm working with.

Everything evens out after age 30, life sucks for most people it seems. :skull:



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If you aren't a woman who goes after the "most wanted" men, then you will lose out. And we have our time clocks ticking the whole time. I think men have it easier. Just find a way to make lots of money - you can even be butt-ugly.


Hmm I didn't do that, and certainly did not lose out as far as I can tell.


Can uou imagine Angela dating a metal head though?


Nope, certainly not.


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