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29 Jul 2016, 8:45 am

LOL....There's no such thing as a "post-bidet" society.

There's Postmodernism--but we'll never be "post-toilet"--ever!

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29 Jul 2016, 8:49 am

Now we have no need for bidets because we can build it right into the toilet!

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29 Jul 2016, 9:22 am

Alliekit, where are you?

I hope everything's okay.

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29 Jul 2016, 9:44 am

^She's.....

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30 Jul 2016, 6:27 am

androbot01 wrote:

Alliekit, what I'm hearing is that you feel bad because you caused a moment he had been planning to not work out. Did he plan the trip to Venice specifically to propose to you there? If so, bummer for sure.
I think you should encourage him to not put too much importance in the moment of proposal, or any moment really. It is pretty much impossible to have something come out as one plans it and I think the stress of trying to do so often causes problems to pop up.
I once attended a wedding into which a lot of planning had gone. It was in a remodeled, but authentic barn ... it was a nice country setting. At the very moment the bride began to say the vows she had written, a car horn went off outside, quite near the barn. She tried to continue with her vows and everyone checked their car alarm devices to make sure it wasn't them. Eventually she said with tears that she couldn't continue. It was then that the bridesmaid checked her car keys and pressed the car alarm button. The beeping stopped. Never have I seen such a pissed off bride.

Anyway, I guess my point is that the more pressure you put on the creation of the moment the more angry and disappointed you will be when it doesn't come to pass. I feel for your boyfriend. In your place I would focus on the positive when discussing the trip with him. Sick or not, it's pretty neat to see Venice. It may not be there in a few years.

Yea the trip was planned for the proposal. I haven't let him know that I'm bothered about it because I don't want him to feel like s**t.

We did enjoy ourselves just i spent most of it drugged up on prescription pain killers :/

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30 Jul 2016, 6:33 am

Just be careful that you don't become addicted to them.

I wish you two can move on from this, and proceed with life.

Things happen in life.

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31 Jul 2016, 11:35 pm

Peacesells wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Speaking of bathroom devices:

I was near Venice, in the next town immediately north of Venice.

They had old-fashioned squat toilets at the railway station of that town, not bidets.

I had to figure out how to use them!

Public bathrooms don't have them obviously. Anyway I'd like to know if people from other countires use them when they are here. Perhaps will make a thread.

American bathrooms don't typically have bidets. In fact most Americans have probably never seen or heard of them unless they have traveled to Europe, which most Americans never do.

There are many theories as to why the bidet never caught on in the US, but I think it really just comes down to lack of knowledge, and entrenched ideas of normalcy. For example, Australia and Japan make far superior toilets than the ones found in the US, yet most people, when building a new house or bathroom, or replacing their current toilet, will still install a typical American toilet. It wouldn't occur to them to order something better.

This kind of thing happens around the world. For example, in the US, most people who live in houses have full sized washers and dryers, but in Australia, line drying is still very common. Central heating is standard in most American houses, but in Japan, they tend to use single room kerosene heaters. Japanese bathrooms, and apparently many bathrooms in India, often don't have enclosed showers. The entire bathroom is designed to get wet. Americans have tubs and/or enclosed showers, and the entire bathroom is not designed to get wet.

Another reason an American wouldn't install a bidet is because except for master bathrooms, most Americans bathrooms don't have room for them.

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01 Aug 2016, 12:48 am

I feel like this thread has gone completely off topic...

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01 Aug 2016, 3:21 am

Chronos wrote:

Australia and Japan make far superior toilets than the ones found in the US

We do?

We have superior toilets to America? I didn't think there was very much difference.

With one exception. Why is the water level in American toilets always so high? It's like the bowl is nearly half full.

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01 Aug 2016, 8:48 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Australia and Japan make far superior toilets than the ones found in the US

As far as I can gather.

Is a toilet plunger common place in Australian bathrooms? They are in American bathrooms because toilets occasionally clog. This is also why the water level in American toilets is high. Our inferior design for non-industrial, standard house toilets requires more water in the bowl to compensate for the poor flush force.

You will find toilets in public restrooms in the US often have jet like flush force, but these toilets too are not impossible to clog.

Superior Australian toilets vs. Inferior American toilets.

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01 Aug 2016, 10:05 pm

Chronos wrote:

Is a toilet plunger common place in Australian bathrooms?

No.

Chronos wrote:

This is also why the water level in American toilets is high. Our inferior design for non-industrial, standard house toilets requires more water in the bowl to compensate for the poor flush force.

Is this something to do with American towns using a combined sewage and storm water system? In Australia those two are always kept separate to ensure a rain storm doesn't make toilets overflow.

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01 Aug 2016, 10:31 pm

The toilet topic: Please end.

Proceed support for Alliekit.

I have been reading this thread, for my acknowledgement of the issue and I want to learn to understand people's emotions. You guys just lack of people's emotions. Don't talk about this too.

Alliekit: Was he aware that you aware he going to propose you? I am not sure its coincidental that when someone have a feeling they know or expect something to happen would ruin the moment?

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01 Aug 2016, 10:58 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Is a toilet plunger common place in Australian bathrooms?

No.

Chronos wrote:

This is also why the water level in American toilets is high. Our inferior design for non-industrial, standard house toilets requires more water in the bowl to compensate for the poor flush force.

Is this something to do with American towns using a combined sewage and storm water system? In Australia those two are always kept separate to ensure a rain storm doesn't make toilets overflow.

No, just inferior toilet design.

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02 Aug 2016, 12:03 am

Do most American toilets have LIDS, because the whole 'gender-toilet' issue shouldn't even exist, at least here in Oz, as the vast majority of toilets in most places have lids.

You're supposed to put the lid down after doing your business so that water and bacteria doesn't splash everywhere (though even with the lid off it's not as bad as it sounds, but still).

If both men and women were to simply put the lid down (the seat and lid for men), then the gender issue shouldn't actually exist - it must only exist because both men and women use the toilets incorrectly.

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02 Aug 2016, 12:13 am

Enough with the toilet talk please, it is very disrespectful to Alliekit.

If you wish to talk about toilets, you can start a new thread, but here is not the place.

Alliekit should have our support, not have her thread Hijacked by toilet talk.

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02 Aug 2016, 2:18 am

UnturnedStone wrote:

I agree ^

It is not surprising, however, to see a thread in L&D devolve into toilet chat; that's about the level of this subforum.

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