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05 Sep 2016, 9:36 am

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People who act like imbeciles or a**holes in public spaces should understand that others are free to confront them or react to what they do and say, including in an equally nasty way.

People act like imbeciles in public all the time. I even have friends who I won't go into stores/restaurants with because their behaviour embarrasses me. For sure I am free to confront/express my opinion and I have done so. Maybe it's just the sheer volume of stupid people in the world, but my strategy is to ignore and occasionally share a sympathetic glance with the cashier.
When I have engaged people in the past regarding a difference of opinion I have been left frustrated and angry and I just don't like feeling that way.
Perhaps Boo will come out of this feeling better; I don't know. This girl also says something about not being played. She sounds like a bunch of bother.

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05 Sep 2016, 9:39 am

Not all short guys are out for the count, check this dude out

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BenderRodriguez wrote:

Pulling the "be the better person" card usually protects and enables stupidity and discrimination, even if it's not intended to. People who act like imbeciles or a**holes in public spaces should understand that others are free to confront them or react to what they do and say, including in an equally nasty way.

Agreed. Also, I wish this sort of thing would have been taught to me at a much younger age, rather than me believing for years that the "be a better person" card as well as the "just ignore them" rule were just holding my own development back.

Well about that you just have to be careful who you speak up to. I have no problem speaking up about things and many times has my mouth gotten me in trouble because of that. My family constantly fears that I'll say something to the wrong person and get shot/stabbed/killed because the world is very dangerous nowadays.

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05 Sep 2016, 10:05 am

androbot01 wrote:

BenderRodriguez wrote:

People who act like imbeciles or a**holes in public spaces should understand that others are free to confront them or react to what they do and say, including in an equally nasty way.

Reacting every time someone is being stupid or an ass (especially on the internet!) would probably turn one insane, I can't argue with that :lol:

But sometimes you've just had enough and make a stand, or simply react out of sheer exasperation. I'm not saying that what he does is "right" or useful (unless it makes him feel better), I'm saying that he's entitled to treat an a***hole like an a***hole without having people climbing their high horses and trying to shame him into keeping his mouth shut.

As far as I'm concerned, people can have whatever standards for choosing their partners, no matter how unreasonable or absurd, but if they go about posting crass comments/pics about being short, fat, skinny or blue with pink dots, it's acceptable to react to it.

Confronting stupid or nasty people won't make them less stupid and nasty, but sometimes makes them think twice about how they act in front of others. Always getting away with it only reinforces their behaviour and they often perceive it as tacit approval from the rest of us.

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05 Sep 2016, 11:34 am

Sounds like a colossal waste of time lmao. Also not surprising for short guys, who I've noticed are incredibly petty.

No, but seriously, every guy I've been interested in who is shorter than me acts irritated that I'm taller than them even if it's only by an inch or two. Current boyfriend aside of course, but he did hold that attitude when we were younger.

Anyways leading someone on like that seems like a waste of time and is reminiscent of like middle schooler behavior. I'd have just confronted her to begin with, not tried to make things go further so I could be petty enough to reject her later.

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05 Sep 2016, 1:11 pm

nah, relax folks.

I've lost interest in this and will just ghost her.

I dunno what I was thinking.

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05 Sep 2016, 11:24 pm

lol @ that picture. 5'11 isn't really short though. unless the girl is over 5'11 herself which is a turn off.

also, the 5'3 thing made me laugh, because 5'3 is actually short even for a girl xD

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05 Sep 2016, 11:44 pm

awkward facepalm wrote:

lol @ that picture. 5'11 isn't really short though. unless the girl is over 5'11 herself which is a turn off.

also, the 5'3 thing made me laugh, because 5'3 is actually short even for a girl xD

Hey, leave the fella alone, he is just vertically challenged!

(just a joke!

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06 Sep 2016, 4:45 am

awkward facepalm wrote:

lol @ that picture. 5'11 isn't really short though. unless the girl is over 5'11 herself which is a turn off.

also, the 5'3 thing made me laugh, because 5'3 is actually short even for a girl xD

Ha-ha.

Actually, it's average height for girl in my area.

But yeah, when I was in Prague I was literally a m***et, more than half of women there were significantly taller than me. Man, it's a very nice place but dating would be hectic for me there.

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06 Sep 2016, 4:48 am

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Yeah, it's like when people say "be the bigger man and do X", what they really mean is "do what I tell you to or you're a small man".

Another one is "real men do X". What they really mean is "real men do whatever we tell them to". Your example of "be a better person and do X" is a good gender neutral example.

Anyway, all of these carry the implication that if you don't obey whoever is speaking and do X, you're not a big man or real man or good person, etc. All these fall under the umbrella term, shaming tactics.

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unless the girl is over 5'11 herself which is a turn off.

It is not! Tall women are very attractive. I can kiss them without bending down

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06 Sep 2016, 5:39 am

People who believe in karma pi55 me off.

It tends to just be an excuse to be a cowardly, avoidant bystander, or passive-aggressively and secretly take matters into your own hands to be the one who 'gives them the bad karma they deserve'.

Some karma believers are simply completely neutral. I'm not judging you.

I'm judging those that simply choose not to get involved because they'll 'leave it up to karma' and deny any responsibility or control over the situation they could have otherwise had.

I hate people who are very passive-aggressive, use a lot of mean-spirited sarcasm, and are otherwise avoidant and manipulative when they don't like someone.

It's in my experiences these people tend to be the one's who believe in karma as well, the one's who silently curse under their breath or gossip behind the person's back.

Anyway, when it comes to bystanders, think of it this way:

An a55h•le bully in school thinks he can get away with whatever he wants.

Teachers have tried but it's been ineffective.

No other student will stand up to him?

Why? Are they all afraid?

No, because some of them are brave enough to do so, but simply won't. Why? "Because one day, he'll get his karma. What goes around comes around. Some day someone else is going to be brave enough to stand up to him."

Next thing you know, he's Donald Trump.

Or Hitler.

How did he become Donald Trump, or Hitler? Or Joseph Stalin?

Because everyone he ever made angry or frustrated thought to themselves "One day, he'll mess with the wrong person, and then he'll get what's coming to him. Of course it could never be me. I'll just wait until someone else does it. I'll just play along and pretend to be polite when secretly I wish someone, anyone out there, would be brave enough to stand up to him. Anyone. At all. It could be you, or that guy over there. Or, even me. Anyway, 'bout time I get back to work and stop thinking about this, ever again. Because why should I be concerned? Like I said - he'll get what's coming to him someday. By someone. Could be anyone. Anywhere. Any minute now. Oh, look, I was so distracted I didn't realize I've just walked into a mirror. Anyway, what was I saying? Oh, that's right. It could be anyone. Anywhere. Any minute now" I thought to myself as I stared at my reflection.

I'll admit, personally I have been a neutral bystander simply not interested in getting involved, but I've never refused to speak-up because I'll let silly superstitions possibly or possibly not stop the other person.

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06 Sep 2016, 5:44 am

She is a horny girl.

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06 Sep 2016, 6:10 am

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Belief in karma does not preclude one from acting. If we left everything to karma then what would be the point of laws and punishment. Some situations call for action. For me, I would only get involved if one person was abusing another or if someone was being cruel to an animal. But being an ass; karma can take care of that.

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06 Sep 2016, 6:24 am

Karma is a superstition.

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06 Sep 2016, 6:35 am

lidsmichelle wrote:

Sounds like a colossal waste of time lmao. Also not surprising for short guys, who I've noticed are incredibly petty.

No, but seriously, every guy I've been interested in who is shorter than me acts irritated that I'm taller than them even if it's only by an inch or two. Current boyfriend aside of course, but he did hold that attitude when we were younger.

lol....you, your prejudice is so funny.

"Every short guy", then you say 'current boyfriend aside".

So funny.

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06 Sep 2016, 6:48 am

androbot01 wrote:

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The issue is when the lines become grey, not just when someones being a jerk.

"Should I step in? Is it really necessary?"

"Would it be intruding and not minding my own business if I stepped into this?"

Yes, I agree, but I've seen situations where some people pretty much just say "Should I do anything? Lol nope, karma will get them."

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06 Sep 2016, 7:25 am

Outrider wrote:

An a55h•le bully in school thinks he can get away with whatever he wants.

Teachers have tried but it's been ineffective.

No other student will stand up to him?

Why? Are they all afraid?

No, because some of them are brave enough to do so, but simply won't. Why? "Because one day, he'll get his karma. What goes around comes around. Some day someone else is going to be brave enough to stand up to him."

Bullies don’t usually choose their targets at random. Most students probably won’t be preferential targets and will know they aren’t, so they won’t give a s**t. They’ll simply give victims a wide berth, to avoid being associated with them, and move on with their lives.

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