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23 Sep 2016, 7:42 pm

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Do you feel like you have a definite career path in mind?

I certainly didn't when I was your age.


Nothing definite, but I'm starting to think about it as I get closer to the end of my degree. In a perfect world I would be a writer, fine artist or film director, or just being an academic forever :lol: . In real terms though, no, I still have a lot of thinking to do on that one! Possibly something in intelligence, since I love puzzles and languages, but I don't know.

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I certainly wasn't as intelligent as you are now!


I'm sure you were! :D , but in any case I don't feel my intelligence gives me any advantage in affairs of the heart or social spheres :? .



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23 Sep 2016, 7:53 pm

Maybe not now (in terms of the social aspect).....but I feel your intelligence will pay dividends later...if you allow it to.

When I was 22, I was living alone in an apartment with no TV and a mattress on the floor. I lived a "hand to mouth" existence, literally. I just went from one sensation to another sensation.

I had a job. But I had no desire to "better myself." I wanted to be some sort of writer--I wanted to live a sort of nomadic existence in my mind (if not my residence).

I had no idea about the meaning of friendship or of love---maybe a passing acquaintance, at the most!

As I grew older, though, I was able to use my intelligence to better myself in the social sphere. I made some concessions, and I didn't concede on other points.

At this point in time, I'm pretty much a "court jester," as far as what people's perceptions of me are. I am
"exempt" from participating in the social crap, yet I am seen as being something of a confidant at times.

Some court jesters, it should be remembers, were the trusted advisors of kings/queens.



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24 Sep 2016, 11:57 am

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The forum has been weird for me today so I might have to post details for this thread as replies?

Basically I want to end a relationship with a boy, but for starters I don't know whether it's a break-up or a turn-down. I don't consider us to be formally dating but it's possible he does. We haven't kissed or held hands, we've been on 2 dates with a 3rd tonight ( :( ), but he says he's 'committed to making this work' and his friend asked me how we were doing, which makes it sound like he thinks we're already in a relationship :?

He's a really nice guy and has made accommodations for my HFA, but it's just not enough. I can't connect and I do not want to be in a relationship with him. Should I be honestish and explain that my mind is not compatible with dating? My concern is not making him too upset; I don't fully understand how he feels towards me (I certainly don't feel as into him as he is into me), so it will be hard to do this with emotional sensitivity.

Any advice appreciated :?

Paul Simon said it best:



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24 Sep 2016, 4:24 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Maybe not now (in terms of the social aspect).....but I feel your intelligence will pay dividends later...if you allow it to.

When I was 22, I was living alone in an apartment with no TV and a mattress on the floor. I lived a "hand to mouth" existence, literally. I just went from one sensation to another sensation.

I had a job. But I had no desire to "better myself." I wanted to be some sort of writer--I wanted to live a sort of nomadic existence in my mind (if not my residence).

I had no idea about the meaning of friendship or of love---maybe a passing acquaintance, at the most!

As I grew older, though, I was able to use my intelligence to better myself in the social sphere. I made some concessions, and I didn't concede on other points.

At this point in time, I'm pretty much a "court jester," as far as what people's perceptions of me are. I am
"exempt" from participating in the social crap, yet I am seen as being something of a confidant at times.

Some court jesters, it should be remembers, were the trusted advisors of kings/queens.


I always strive to better myself but not in the field of love or friendships. I feel like this latest foray into having a relationship has taken it's toll, but been educating all the same. Perhaps like you I will get better socially with time (and effort!).

Your life at 22 doesn't sound so very different to mine, especially 'living sensation to sensation'; especially now when I'm burnt out I feel like I'm just going through the motions. I still work and study but I'm not fully present. What sort of work do you do now, if you don't mind me asking?

Do you like being the 'court jester' type? I have to say it sounds pretty appealing, especially the exemption from some social expectations. I can't say I'm surprised people seek you out as a confidant/advisor. As I've said before, you're very wise on these matters and you have a great way of not only articulating your points, but asking the questions that make me think about my problems :D



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25 Sep 2016, 10:50 am

I'm a data-entry operator. I'm fortunate that I'm a civil servant, and will, in 6 years, retire with a pension.

I'm sorry you were feeling so bad yesterday. I wasn't around much on WP to see this.

It's done me good to adopt the role of "eccentric." I realized it was futile to try to be "normal."

I guess, with effort, I could have done better with my life.

I sense that you are quite intelligent, and have potential. Maybe you're not ready for romance. Maybe your body is "telling you" to de-emphasize the sensuous and work more on the cerebral.

If you were "ready," your body would have "let you know it."



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25 Sep 2016, 11:59 am

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I'm a data-entry operator. I'm fortunate that I'm a civil servant, and will, in 6 years, retire with a pension.

I'm sorry you were feeling so bad yesterday. I wasn't around much on WP to see this.

It's done me good to adopt the role of "eccentric." I realized it was futile to try to be "normal."

I guess, with effort, I could have done better with my life.

I sense that you are quite intelligent, and have potential. Maybe you're not ready for romance. Maybe your body is "telling you" to de-emphasize the sensuous and work more on the cerebral.

If you were "ready," your body would have "let you know it."


I got given some extra data entry responsibilities at my workplace recently, hours and pay etc, I have to say I quite enjoy it. It must be nice to have your retirement in sight :)

Yeah, I'm not doing so great at the moment. I just had to vent somewhere, I hope none of what I wrote yesterday seems melodramatic, but I've just kind of reached a crisis point this weekend. It will end, but that doesn't make it much easier in the meantime.

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Maybe you're not ready for romance. Maybe your body is "telling you" to de-emphasize the sensuous and work more on the cerebral.


I think this is very astute. I was really trying, and with WPs help I was actually getting somewhere in understanding my attitude to romance, but it seems all that interaction with my emotions was more than I could handle on this occasion. It's like I've opened Pandora's box on that front; I've gone from limited social interactions and emotions to overwhelming and conflicting feelings, and I can't turn it off.



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25 Sep 2016, 12:58 pm

It almost seems like you're at a crossroads in your life; hence the stress.

You are feeling these intense emotions for either the first time, or you have experienced them under "easier" circumstances.

You are thinking about your future, and about how to break up with the guy you mentioned.

What you are feeling, actually, is not unusual with people who are at your point in life--whether neurotypical, or otherwise. The intensity of the feeling is not unusual, either.

I get the feeling that some sort of diversion, doing something that you enjoy, though it might not be "productive," might be at least a short-term solution to all this--it this is at all possible.



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25 Sep 2016, 1:19 pm

Paradoxically, I think the discord you are feeling might actually be good for you. I understand it might really stink right now; in fact I KNOW it does.

But being forced to deal with adversity is very instructive, and provides you with substance as a person which can only be augmented by your intelligence and your accumulated knowledge.

But hugs and support are also good, too.



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25 Sep 2016, 2:56 pm

You are absolutely right about finding a diversion, I started back at work today after my week off and I really enjoyed being able to distract myself for a few hours. It's hard because right now I have to keep constantly distracted; if I leave my mind to idle for 5 minutes I'm straight back to the intense feelings, so I've been forcing myself to find short-term diversions.

Is this intensity of feeling really normal? How do people do it?

I know I will benefit from all this some way in the long run. Right now it sucks but I'm trying to learn from it and be conscious of how and why I'm feeling this way. My tendency to be over-analytical is sometimes a weak point but of course you are right, if I apply myself to the situation I will learn something from it.

Right now I think what I've learned is that I was right about myself all along. I always thought I hadn't changed much over the course of my life, my peers changed as we got older but I didn't. Maybe that's why I'm asexual, and why I'm not equipped for or interested in many of the things other people are. At 18 my friend said I was like an "intelligent child"; she said I was "very smart but totally clueless in some areas" (it was said as a jokey insult). I think that's still me; maybe that's the 'finished product' of my personality? Maybe I won't ever be able to appreciate some adult things, or maybe I will with time. I suppose, even though this whole thing has made me feel truly awful and lost, it was good to experiment? :?



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25 Sep 2016, 4:07 pm

Right now, it's apparent that you're not interested in sex. But that doesn't mean you're a "child." You're mature in other ways. It could be that you might have not found the "right one" yet. This sort of thing happens with men and women. Count yourself lucky, in a sense.

My feeling is that you should not judge yourself based upon a lack of sexual feeling. It might, or might not, reveal itself in your life. As long as you're living a good life, and being decent to people, I wouldn't, like I mentioned, base my assessment of self-worth based upon sexual/asexual feelings.

You mentioned, in another thread, that you have visual hallucinations. Are they actually distressing to you, or is the fact that you are hallucinating distressing to you?

At times, if you, otherwise, are functioning in a way which is not injurious to yourself, or that you are not missing school/work because of it, that maybe you could even "use" your hallucinations for something useful....like in some sort of artistic production.

How much of a support system do you think you have?



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25 Sep 2016, 5:07 pm

My asexuality didn't bother me until I tried to build a romantic relationship. My shortcomings made me feel inadequate and it's affected my self-worth, however I can see myself getting back to a healthier level of self esteem with time. I know you're right, I shouldn't let it define me.

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You mentioned, in another thread, that you have visual hallucinations. Are they actually distressing to you, or is the fact that you are hallucinating distressing to you?


A bit of both. The images/sensations are distressing and the implications of having them are distressing, both because it appears I cannot trust my senses, and because I don't want to lose control of my life and be locked away. I've mentioned it before on WP, but for example with one hallucination I was in a public place (art class) and I couldn't see my reflection in a mirror. It was distressing because it was frightening and bizarre, but also because it changed my relationship to my mind and my senses on a permanent basis.

I do try and channel my hallucinatory experiences into art and writing, it's therapeutic and I suppose beneficial, because the art feels authentic and invested with meaning. I don't think I'm ever totally functioning in a way that is not injurious to myself, but I do try and make the most of my mind even when it's causing me trouble.

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How much of a support system do you think you have?


My support system is negligible. Without WP I don't/can't express myself or seek help at all.



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25 Sep 2016, 5:39 pm

I'm glad you have us at WP, at least.

I know it's pretty late where you are. I hope you are able to sleep well tonight, and to wake up refreshed in the morning.

I hope you benefited from our company today and tonight.

It was nice talking to you. You have a nice, intelligent way of expressing yourself.



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25 Sep 2016, 5:49 pm

I'm glad I have WP too. I have definitely benefited from the help and advice of everybody here, I am very grateful to you all.

I hadn't noticed the time, I'd better get some sleep. I didn't get much last night so I'm pretty wired!

And it was nice talking to you too of course kraftie, you give wonderful, considered advice and you ask the right questions. Have a nice evening :D