Does dating get harder as you get older?

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02 Dec 2016, 12:33 am

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I feel most guys will become more successful when they get in their 30's---provided they don't bear a grudge against their lack of success in the 20's.

Ever since I was a teenager, I ALWAYS liked older women. I dug them like hell, in fact.

During the summer between my junior and senior years in high school, I had a serious of extremely erotic dreams about my English teacher. She was nearly 40 at the time.

When I was 19, I fell madly in love with a woman twice my age. We made out, but nothing beyond that. I called her "The Duchess Lady."

If I was 19, and a woman like Hurtloam came in to my view, I'd pounce on her LOL.

She wouldn't like me though. I would have been a pussycat. She likes more challenging sorts of guys LOL


For those few who become successful later and life sure. But for failures it will only get worse. It's super not normal to work retail min wage in late 20s to 30/40/50/60.
Women that age want to settle down but a house have a family something the failure won't be able to do.

But sure for the nerdy guy who sucked dating in school gen has a good paying job at a tech company later in life and due to that is able to help provide the above, year their get more success with women.

I didn't like that advice when I was 18 I really hate it now. I'm not going be more successful or good looking so women who don't like me now sure as heck won't like me in 6 months when I'm 30. I see how women talk about guys like me. Calling them childish, losers, rejects, worthless etc



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02 Dec 2016, 12:35 am

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I would think it would be easier because the older you are, the more people you can potentially date because as you age, you have a bigger selection. If a guy is 21, getting anyone several years out of his age range would be difficult but if he's 30, he could probably date women several years younger or older than him.

What exactly prevents a 21 old guy from dating older women?
Most women won't date a guy more then 7 years older

Concerns me the woman I like is 7 years younger but I'll turn 29 in February



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02 Dec 2016, 12:42 am

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Maybe I should just settle for a short fat girl in her 30s but that would ruinous to my self-esteem...
Did I not try hard enough or was I just born this way?


What you need is balance.

What you want is too unrealistic, the women you've actually dated haven't been any good for you.

You've been more hardworking, successful and otherwise functional than all of your girlfriends.

The ideal girlfriend you actually want is far too unrealistic for you and would be unlikely to give you a chance.

The ideal girlfriend for you, imho, would be a woman with moderate depression that does not drain her life too much and maybe Aspergers and/or ADHD/Anxiety.

Note that just because someone has anxiety does not mean they are boring and have no interests.

She needs to be a fun woman with interests who actually likes doing stuff with you.

An Ambivert who value both indoors time and outdoor activities instead of a homebody satisfied with always sitting around the house or never going out.

She has to be anywhere from underweight to moderately overweight. If she's moderately overweight she has to be making a geniuine effort to at least go down to slighty overweight, not just half-a55ing it but actually eating healthy and exercising.

Average looking face and average body.

Has a job, at the very least working min. wage, lives on her own, owns her own car and drives, and not financially dependent on you.

At the very least a high school education.

Not negative/toxic/draining/brings you down.

The better question is, could you accept being with a woman exactly as I described? Or does she need to be 'better'?

I know how you feel though, the amount of average pencil neck or ugly faced chubbier guys I've seen with pretty skinny girlfriends is ridiculous.

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What exactly prevents a 21 old guy from dating older women?
Most women won't date a guy more then 7 years older

Concerns me the woman I like is 7 years younger but I'll turn 29 in February


It seems many women don't want to date younger guys, which sucks because I prefer slightly older women.

It's worst of all for 18 year olds, bro.

We can't date down and older women want nothing to do with us, all the time I see women say dating an 18 year old is like dating a 'child' or kid who's hand she has to hold, we can only really date same age, maybe 19/20 max.



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02 Dec 2016, 1:02 am

I'd prefer to date 18-25 but I can't and I sure can't date women my age or older.
So feel lucky it's acceptable for you to date 18-20 olds and try to while you still can



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02 Dec 2016, 1:17 am

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hurtloam wrote:
I feel like it's gotten more difficult. I get the feeling that men my age want someone younger and I think they assume that someone in their mid 30s must have something wrong with them to still be single, either that or they assume that i' ve chosen to be single and don't want a man. It's like there's an invisible barrier around me now.

I don't have much in common with women in their 30s. So I prefer younger women who are more playful and silly and into childish things like anime, video games and adventuring.

Also they may assume since your so attractive that you already have a bf. I've found most women do and so I don't want to upset them by talking to them.
Mean few women here have mentioned they don't like to be talked to by undesirable men while in public. And talking to them in private would be harassment :p
But seriously it's quite hopeless :cry:


Man, I've been told I'm intelligent and have a mature view of the world, and I do like a lot of philosophy, politics, etc.

but at the same time my actual interests are very childish.

I hate most modern tv shows, movies, video games, etc. so instead of moving forward when I buy entertainment, I move backwards. I buy older and older instead of newer and newer.

Most stuff I watch, most games I play, are almost all before 2010.

I really like nostalgia nowadays.

I watch superhero cartoons like Ben 10 Alien Force (came out 2008), Young Justice (2010) and Teen Titans (2003) (NOT TT:Go).

I play Harry Potter video games for kids from 5-15 years ago.

Only 'mature' things I like is Assasin's Creed and Bioshock.

But yeah everyone else my age likes horror movies, drama stuff, all MA/R type crap.

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I'd prefer to date 18-25 but I can't and I sure can't date women my age or older.
So feel lucky it's acceptable for you to date 18-20 olds and try to while you still can


Yes, I know man.

Got to get a good giirlfriend while young and pray to effin God that we stay together long enough to get married so that she'll love me for who I am instead of having to go through dating income/car/live alone you get the picture.

A lot of people in my family are like this, lower-middle class so while the woman is a housewife she usually expects her man to work but will still love him and support him if he's not working but looking, and is more okay with him being a bit less successful than the average guy his age.

My family and family's friends lots of the men and women are high school dropouts, might not have a car or their license yet, might even still live with parents, etc.

My Uncle has Asperger's, high school dropout, kicked out at 16, finally has his license at 25, finally has a car only recently, has had a few jobs but mainly on disability, has been homeless, rarely lives on his own, the last few years has been sleeping on Mum's couch, yet he's had plenty of girlfriends, usually women in similar position of him in life and equal in looks.

If he can effin do it, I can.



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02 Dec 2016, 3:28 am

I like a lot of mordern tv shows. I also like older ones and older music. I don't seem to loose taste in stuff like others do. I really wish I could watch 7 days again. I watch Star Trek voyager like 4 times. I bought 20 games on PS4 in the 3 years I've had it.

Horror gives me nightmares



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02 Dec 2016, 4:28 am

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Man, I've been told I'm intelligent and have a mature view of the world, and I do like a lot of philosophy, politics, etc.

I've been told that too and I've also been told that I'm not a man because I don't walk or talk like a man. Funny think this, I've heard this from a girl who was unemployed and didn't have a driving license. I guess for NTs it's often about how mature you feel. And for them your dropout uncle may feel more mature than you.



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02 Dec 2016, 6:17 am

For me, it stays the same difficulty level: Impossible. I'm not seen in a romantic way at all.


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02 Dec 2016, 6:41 am

sly279 wrote:
I'd prefer to date 18-25 but I can't and I sure can't date women my age or older.
Me too.

sly279 wrote:
So feel lucky it's acceptable for you to date 18-20 olds and try to while you still can
It's not. I asked out an 18 year old and she said she was too old for me :(


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02 Dec 2016, 6:52 am

No, my uncle very immature and childish, in behavior, in humor, in life, really.

He is idiotic and insane.

He has committed and been arrested for various crimes since a young age.

He is an alcoholic drug addict who does not care about the consequences.

He's in massive debt and does whatever his friends tell him to on a dare.

All of his past girlfriends were severely obese and often used him for his money. He'd get kicked out every payday and be back on our doorstep, then be back to his gf's house next payday only to be kicked out again.

He wore a clown jumpsuit costume to the airport (this was before killer clowns was a problem). He did it for fun.

On a bus one time, a woman made the bus driver go out of their normal route just to drop her off, wasting my families time.

My uncle mooned her and rubbed his poop on the window. She saw him do it. He was 22 or so at the time.

He texted Mum laughing about how he had a 'goon bag' (bag of alcohol) with him on the bus with a mate and they were drinking it together.

While drunk one night he walked home alone and saw our street sign was close to falling off, so he pulled the whole pole out of the ground but only stole the sign part.

He spends almost all day sleeping on our couch or getting drunk at nearby family friends house.

Mum cares about him and helps support him as he's her brother.

He pays rent but does not do any housework whatsoever and doesn't even wash his own clothes.

So please, don't ever suggest he's maturer than me. :P I know I'm already much more in a better place than he is at this time in my life, and Mum and everyone else knows it.

RETROGAMER:

He was talking about me.



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02 Dec 2016, 7:03 am

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For me, it stays the same difficulty level: Impossible. I'm not seen in a romantic way at all.


Lol, sad but true...and funny! :lol:

[quote"=sly279"]I bought 20 games on PS4 in the 3 years I've had it[/quote]

Do you think that's a lot or a low amount?

We only got a PS4 last year and only have about 8 games or so on it.

I don't keep up with modern entertainment at all.

Don't watch modern tv, don't watch new movies, don't play new games, etc.

it makes it so hard for me to relate to others.

And people who like retro stuff like stuff that is too old for me.

I'm somewhere in the middle and it sucks. All my favorite stuff from 1995-2014 range, mainly 1998-2010, stuff I grew up with.

It seems like everyone else is always finding new music, new tv shows, new movies, etc. and discarding the old stuff.

Of course people my age know the Matrix, the old spiderman movies, the old harry potter movies, but instead of harry potter books they're reading the new one, or watching the new movie fantastic beasts.

People my age like new spiderman movie better than classic one from early 2000s. Anyway you get the picture.

People my age watch Avengers movies, the x-man movies not older stuff.

And heck yes horror movies are scary.

SOMETIMES I do but this is rare.

My newest game is Assasins Creed Syndicate from last year, and funny enough soon I wanted to buy the Ezio Collection, which is 3 older AC games but on PS4 and with updated graphics.

See what I mean? When I get a new game, I get 3 old ones to make up for it!!



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02 Dec 2016, 7:59 am

Hey Sly.....she's the perfect age!

She's 21, you're 28. Nobody frowns upon a relationship like that. Nobody.

Now....If you were 55, then there'd be concerns.

My father, at 55, married someone who was 30. Nobody cared.



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02 Dec 2016, 8:05 am

Your uncle sounds like a real winner, Outrider LOL



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02 Dec 2016, 8:27 am

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The problem is that at 18, she is just beginning to experience life as an adult.  Retrogamer, has been an adult for 11 years--a vast difference in experience.  This is usually a difficult situation even when both people otherwise have no issues.
Not really. I'm not so experienced in life. When I was 24 I lived like a child. She's now more mature than I was at 24.

She works at McDonald's. That's a more mature job than the one I had from 22 to 27 (8 hour per week job meant for disabled people, paid $3 per hour, basically a fake job). Mcdonald's is more difficult and also pays more. She works more hours per week and also does high school.

At 25 I moved out of home. Lived like an unwashed hippy in a beach house with another beach bum. We had zero responsibility. I still had the same job.

At 26 I moved into a crappy single room unit. Still immature. At 27 I got my first real job. Part time. Only 28 hours per week. Much later age than most people start work. The girl started work at 17.

I didn't go full time until I was 28. Still only 37.5 hours per week. Have much nicer apartment but still only renting. 

The girl is more "experienced" then me because she has had more sexual partners than me. She's probably been sexually active for more years than me. I started about 10 months ago. I think she started a couple of years ago.

So I probably have less experience than the average 18 year old.

The first half of my 20s was spent living like a child. I feel like I wouldn't have enough life experience to be equal to a girl the same age as me.


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02 Dec 2016, 8:37 am

I've been working 35 hours a week for 36 years.

You're full-time if you work over 30 hours per week.

At least you got out of the s**t you were in when you were younger.



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02 Dec 2016, 8:39 am

When I was in my 20s, I slept on a mattress on the floor. I got the mattress from the street. I had no TV.

I really could give two craps then. The only thing I had was a full-time job. I only had a high school education.