The irrational standards women have toward men

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Gender roles and gender dynamics are still strong despite of feminism.

Pft, I think the fact that you call the women you're able to get "garbage" tells a lot about your personality. Have you ever considered that it might be that very same attitude that prevents you from getting women that meet your standards? I remember you once saying that you're usually nicer in real life than here since here you just speak your mind (or am I mistaking you for someone else?), but your opinions are probably the same ones in reality as they are here. Maybe the women can tell? NTs are usually good at that kind of stuff after all. Besides, if everything you say is true then I honestly can't think of any other reason for why you can't get the kind of woman you like other than your personality... that or you're super picky and think of most women as garbage. Not that I'm saying you aren't allowed to be picky, everyone's allowed to do so, both men and women, but calling people who don't meet your standards "garbage" is a bit uncivilized if you ask me.

I can believe that 20% of men get 80% or more of one-night-stands. When it comes to relationships, it's just not what I see in real life. When I see couples in real life both people are on average average looking. I don't see masses of couples with average looking women and extremely attractive men.
Do a lot of men struggle to get a girlfriend? Sure. (but most who struggle eventually suceed)
Are women on average more picky than men? Absolutely.

Still, there's a lot of black and white thinking going on here and a lot of exaggerations.


To get a huge amount of attention from women without even having to try, you need those model-like looks. To get a girlfriend, you don't. Just look at couples you see in real life. The men are not all extremely good looking. If you're average looking and can't get a girl, sure if you magically became extremely good looking that might change, but the amount of average looking men in relationships are prove that, if you are average looking and absolutely can't get any girl, it's not only your looks.


Of course women care about appearance also (or at least the vast majority, maybe there's the very rare exception). People who claim they don't, lie. They also care about personality, just not in the way some men here would like. For example some men would like them not to care about confidence, but most women find a confident man more attractive than a man who is constantly insecure and depressed. Then there is the disagreement about whether nice is good or not, but people don't even agree what nice is. For a healthy relationship it is of course not good if either partner is a jerk, but the depressed, insecure guy is not automatically nice and the confident guy is not automatically a jerk. Either of them could be nice or a jerk.

I know plenty of gold diggers. It is unfortunate that the courts rule in favor of the women most of the time. Some women will marry the guy and have kids with him so they can get alimony and child support. Women won't get married until they find a guy with a ton of money. Often times, these women treat their men like crap and spend money like crazy.

Feminists can't accept the fact that men and women are biologically different with a different mindset on average. Men are more rational, left brained where as women are more irrational and intuitive. This imbalance creates the chemistry between men and women. In our society I feel that most women are pushed to their own limits to act as masculine as they can in order to become a good competition against men in the working force.

This comes also with the sacrifice of the housewife modal which was norm back in the early 20th century or before. Today if a woman wants a financial success and stable life she has to attend the same level of education and experience in fields to get a job and this comes with the fall of old traditions.

Feminists hate it when it comes to the physical differences between men and women. Men are generally 20% bigger with more muscles and built which makes them capable to defend themselves. A woman will never be as good for a fireman or a soldier than a man is capable of. We're biologically more advantaged in terms of physical strength where as women have a better willpower to raise a kid or the so called "maternal instinct"

On average it probably does go like this, but there are always exceptions. I know a woman under 160 cm who can beat police men in arm wrestling (I've seen her do it; we worked as assistants together at a police station) and I know some men who clearly have more interest and patience in raising their kids than their wifes/partners do. The fact that many people refuse to acknowledge the existence of these exceptions tends to create conflicts.

I'm not sure if his misogyny is the reason why he can't get the kind of women he wants. I got that impression with some past bitter and angry WP members, but those tended to be the ones with the worst social skills and the ones who actually seemed to have a deficit in theory of mind. Closet Genious may have good enough social skills not to accidentally let people know. Or at least I have a cousin who slightly reminds me of him (slightly, but still) who has misogynist opinions and people whom he doesn't tell about those never pick up on them. (Said cousin also has racist opinions and people don't pick up on it)

Still, if it is not his looks, or his (future) income, there are not many reasons left except for personality or his own standards. I mean, like most of the rest of us, he is autistic (probably, I'm not sure but he's on this forum sooo...). Some here may deny it but usually that's not good for your attractiveness.

As long as he loves me, that's what really matters...

And he needs to have a good job. How else will we take care of our children?

And he's gotta earn at least six-figures minimum. You know, the economy, inflation, putting our kids through college, etc.

And he's gotta be quite handsome, physically fit, healthy, muscular, over six feet, low body fat percentage, can run a mile in under six minutes so that he can play with our children every day and never get tired.

And nobody over forty years old, please. I mean, your life is already half over. I need someone young and fun.

If a guy meets the above criteria, I'd definitely start thinking about dating him.

And who knows, if things go well, I might even introduce him to my father.

Then he'll have to impress my father, who has higher standards than I do.

And my father is very close to me, so you need his approval.

But yeah, the main thing is love.

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For every strong woman you have a strong man. If I have to choose between a 6'7 tall man to save my life from fire or between an outlier 5'11 woman. I must say it's not a sexist decision to give the job to the man because he's physically more capable of doing it and have a higher chance to save my life from this point.

For the same reason I'd rather want a woman for au pair to take care for my children while I'm at work than asking a man who completely lack the maternal instincts which would make him a bad option for caring a kid.

They cheated on me and lied to me. Calling them garbage might be a bit extreme, I honestly just get really angry when I think about those girls.

Ah my bad; I'd probably call people who cheat on me and lie to me something similiar, too. I thought you meant women who you know would date you but don't meet your standards.

Women aren't worth the hassle. Focus on yourself.

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I don't know where you live, but only about 20% of American households make six-figures (households, not men; meaning it's the income of a home family living together); so I would say only 10% of men make six-figures; and probably only 10% of men in the world are "quite handsome, physically fit, healthy, muscular, over six feet, low body fat percentage, can run a mile in under six minutes so that he can play with our children every day and never get tired".



Umm...are you being serious or trolling? After you list things that can only be found in a Hollywood actor you say that?

Either way, I think you're crazy.

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