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24 Nov 2018, 3:33 pm

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But you are still here. :skull:


I guess that says a lot about the natural fear of further alienation.

I'm considering this a sibling thread to Mona's thread about our paranoid western 'no contact' policy.


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24 Nov 2018, 5:15 pm

cberg wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
But you are still here. :skull:


I guess that says a lot about the natural fear of further alienation.

I'm considering this a sibling thread to Mona's thread about our paranoid western 'no contact' policy.



I am not westerner though. :skull:



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24 Nov 2018, 5:36 pm

That doesn't mean you can't comment about our absurd western goings-on. I'd encourage you to, any outside perspectives are quite helpful because I represent such a perspective myself.

I'm bored of being a westerner. I work on an international software engineering team & I have friends, offline & on, from eastern Europe & Russia, some of whom have left or are leaving the continent. I don't even have a valid passport & while I may be sick & tired of flying, I need to get around this planet sooner or later. The only reason I wanted a passport before the continental U.S. consumed itself with misdirected rage was to ski in Canada, now pretty much everywhere looks like a break from this mess in one way or another.


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24 Nov 2018, 5:39 pm

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I guess I'm not someone my friends would rationally expect humor from even though I'm joking all the time.


I dunno then, maybe you don't express humor they way they can see it. You seem interesting to me.



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25 Nov 2018, 3:21 pm

Likewise, I'm on here because I get the same impression from many WP folks.

Well as I said I'm a software wonk; as I type this I'm in the middle of updating 3x 64 bit 6 or 8 core Android phones with fresh operating systems. My work files for now consist of over a terabyte. As interesting as I may be, my sensibilities & geeky opinions can be difficult for people close to me to process & we could keep walking on eggshells around each other eternally unless I figure out how to break the ice again.


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25 Nov 2018, 6:46 pm

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Likewise, I'm on here because I get the same impression from many WP folks.

Well as I said I'm a software wonk; as I type this I'm in the middle of updating 3x 64 bit 6 or 8 core Android phones with fresh operating systems. My work files for now consist of over a terabyte. As interesting as I may be, my sensibilities & geeky opinions can be difficult for people close to me to process & we could keep walking on eggshells around each other eternally unless I figure out how to break the ice again.


I have gremlins in a house of computer geeks.

Breaking the ice though... That one is hard, definitely not my skill set.



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26 Nov 2018, 12:31 am

Gremlins you say? My house is just haunted. :jester:

I mean I have to do something. I don't want to live in ignorance of people who've been good to me.


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26 Nov 2018, 2:38 am

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Gremlins you say? My house is just haunted. :jester:

I mean I have to do something. I don't want to live in ignorance of people who've been good to me.


I have the gift of having tech not work for me, but the problem disappears as soon as other people touch it... lol

Well if you feel you have to do something, then do something. Don't sit around and drive yourself crazy with it. Just up and say something. I mean the worst that will happen is people will be weirded out, but if you already feel distanced from them that really won't change much for the worse but it might help them understand. Sometimes it's hard to just put it out there, but I've found it can help.



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26 Nov 2018, 4:44 pm

Your point is quite reasonable. I guess I feel more or less unilaterally distanced from everybody so I'm thinking I should have some friends convey this amongst each other. I know lots of smart people, odds are they can understand me better than I know myself.


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26 Nov 2018, 4:58 pm

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I have the gift of having tech not work for me, but the problem disappears as soon as other people touch it... lol

Many women are gifted that way. Tech is a bit like me. It's nice but it feels no empathy towards women ... :roll:


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26 Nov 2018, 5:01 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
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I have the gift of having tech not work for me, but the problem disappears as soon as other people touch it... lol

Many women are gifted that way. Tech is a bit like me. It feels no empathy towards women ... :roll:


That is so true lol. Tech and me don't get on, it's like I have the power to suck life out of technology 8) My brother has a good understanding of tech, whenever I give him something that broke he says what the hell did you do to it this time? Lol.



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26 Nov 2018, 6:37 pm

My Chinese neighbor at work refers to his tech savvy as his 'golden finger'. That's ultimately how it works when all available skills have been exhausted; the right person just has to click something the right way.

My tech skills border on the ridiculous but my social ability is pretty much nil. I'm trying to find ways to encourage people who know me to send me questions about this stuff. Instead of the occasional inane 'I love you', I offer free tech support. I'm looking to make it clear from my actions that I want to do good stuff for loved ones.


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26 Nov 2018, 7:47 pm

cberg wrote:
Your point is quite reasonable. I guess I feel more or less unilaterally distanced from everybody so I'm thinking I should have some friends convey this amongst each other. I know lots of smart people, odds are they can understand me better than I know myself.


*winces* I'm pretty sure most NT or NT minded folk will take some sort of issue with that idea. It falls sort of under the gossip category I think.

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My tech skills border on the ridiculous but my social ability is pretty much nil. I'm trying to find ways to encourage people who know me to send me questions about this stuff. Instead of the occasional inane 'I love you', I offer free tech support. I'm looking to make it clear from my actions that I want to do good stuff for loved ones.


Actions only work so well. Some people just really need things spelled out. It's not very socially appropriate, but I've started just flat out saying things, like I said I found you interesting. The worst that happens is people who can't deal with it back off. I mean saying, "Helping people with tech is one of the ways I show that I care about them," seems like a phrase that could work for you?



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26 Nov 2018, 10:54 pm

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cberg wrote:
Your point is quite reasonable. I guess I feel more or less unilaterally distanced from everybody so I'm thinking I should have some friends convey this amongst each other. I know lots of smart people, odds are they can understand me better than I know myself.


*winces* I'm pretty sure most NT or NT minded folk will take some sort of issue with that idea. It falls sort of under the gossip category I think.

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My tech skills border on the ridiculous but my social ability is pretty much nil. I'm trying to find ways to encourage people who know me to send me questions about this stuff. Instead of the occasional inane 'I love you', I offer free tech support. I'm looking to make it clear from my actions that I want to do good stuff for loved ones.


Actions only work so well. Some people just really need things spelled out. It's not very socially appropriate, but I've started just flat out saying things, like I said I found you interesting. The worst that happens is people who can't deal with it back off. I mean saying, "Helping people with tech is one of the ways I show that I care about them," seems like a phrase that could work for you?



I suppose there's too much miscommunication going on to let everything work out on its' own. I need to simplify my approach to everyone a bit more so someone absent from my life lately can be more comfortable with me. I'm not inclined to ever try to replace people in my life just because I have trouble finding common ground; I rarely meet anyone who wants to understand me.

More likely than not I'll be alone most of the time until I can work some things out.


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