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24 Jun 2019, 3:05 pm

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I don't see how pointing out a possible difference in reaction to distress can be equated to dismissal of anyone's feelings.
Then please just accept this as another "Need to Know" statement: Merely pointing out differences in male v. female reactions to stress can be seen as a dismissal of feelings.

"Why are you crying, Fnordie? Your sister's not crying, is she? Now stop it..."


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24 Jun 2019, 3:10 pm

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No arguing here please. Free expression, no direct responses :D That's the essence of this thread.


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24 Jun 2019, 3:15 pm

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Teach51 wrote:
No arguing here please. Free expression, no direct responses :D That's the essence of this thread.


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24 Jun 2019, 3:16 pm

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Teach51 wrote:
No arguing here please. Free expression, no direct responses :D That's the essence of this thread.


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Haha. That little moving picture is so funny!


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24 Jun 2019, 3:16 pm

Fnord wrote:
magz wrote:
I don't see how pointing out a possible difference in reaction to distress can be equated to dismissal of anyone's feelings.
Then please just accept this as another "Need to Know" statement: Merely pointing out differences in male v. female reactions to stress can be seen as a dismissal of feelings.
I knew it! You guys are extremely sensitive when it comes to emotions but you try to never admit it!

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"Why are you crying, Fnordie? Your sister's not crying, is she? Now stop it..."

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Oh, leave him, he's hysterical, overly emotional, probably PMS <shrug>


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24 Jun 2019, 3:24 pm

magz wrote:
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magz wrote:
I don't see how pointing out a possible difference in reaction to distress can be equated to dismissal of anyone's feelings.
Then please just accept this as another "Need to Know" statement: Merely pointing out differences in male v. female reactions to stress can be seen as a dismissal of feelings.
I knew it! You guys are extremely sensitive when it comes to emotions but you try to never admit it!

Fnord wrote:
"Why are you crying, Fnordie? Your sister's not crying, is she? Now stop it..."

:cry:
Oh, leave him, he's hysterical, overly emotional, probably PMS <shrug>
More like "... he's just a baby, probably spoiled <shrug>".


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24 Jun 2019, 3:29 pm

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"Why are you crying, Fnordie? Your sister's not crying, is she? Now stop it..."[/color]

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That's sad Fnord, did you break that cycle or....?



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24 Jun 2019, 3:36 pm

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"Why are you crying, Fnordie? Your sister's not crying, is she? Now stop it..."
That's sad Fnord, did you break that cycle or....?
I left my father's house one week after graduating high school, put myself through college, and built myself a new life with a new career and a beautiful wife. The past is only a memory. All is good.


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24 Jun 2019, 3:37 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
No arguing here please. Free expression, no direct responses :D That's the essence of this thread.


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Haha. That little moving picture is so funny!



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24 Jun 2019, 4:45 pm

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I knew it! You guys are extremely sensitive when it comes to emotions but you try to never admit it!
"You guys" is a sweeping, sexist generalization of all men.


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24 Jun 2019, 4:51 pm

Any date that a loved one (person or pet) in my life passed away is a sad anniversary for me, so I can relate to that one.



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24 Jun 2019, 4:59 pm

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Any date that a loved one (person or pet) in my life passed away is a sad anniversary for me, so I can relate to that one.
I'm going to miss my cat Naia as much as I would miss a relative ... maybe more.


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24 Jun 2019, 5:28 pm

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key word = ex wife.
Which is why the rant was only momentary.

The point I was trying to make -- what men need for women to know -- is that just because a woman experiences her own very severe and very real reproductive pains, that does not mean a man has no reason to complain about a case of food poisoning, a torn rotator cuff, or a crushed disc.

Men feel pain, too; and this pain is very real, so PLEASE don't dismiss it merely because it has nothing to do with childbirth!


Yeah, it's ridiculous how some women treat period pain (which I suffer a lot from and not every woman does, a lot of the women who do moan aren't the ones who faint because of it or can't walk because of it) as if it's the 'worst pain in the world'. I can't speak on childbirth.

I also can't speak on dying but I imagine that's worse. However, depending on who is talking, childbirth is risky. Even in the modern day west it is painful and if you're talking to your grandma or someone from a country without good medicine or someone who for whatever reason couldn't have the best modern doctors and medicine around her, it was pretty much going into something where she might die and something very painful.

Women who use PMS as an excuse to be grumpy don't have my version of PMS. I get very tired and upset. I wish more men (and increasingly these days, more women) would know that it's ok to be tearful and cry like I do when my emotions are all over the place. OK for men as well.

I suppose what I don't need the opposite sex to know for the sake of women but what I wish they would know is, if you're regularly feeling very upset, try to get a friend to talk to or if you're in the UK or another country with an NHS type system, see a doctor. The rates of diagnosed depression are higher in women but the suicide rates are higher in men, that suggests that society is stigmatising men's emotions to the point where they don't feel they can get help. This seems connected to a society where men aren't 'meant to' express emotions except lust, tribal pride/loyalty and anger.


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24 Jun 2019, 10:20 pm

When a man perceives a problem, he leaps into action to fix it, as he sees it to be, which it is not.
Lifeguards are trained to ask, "What is the problem?" no matter how obvious it may look.
This would be a tremendous improvement in daily life.



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24 Jun 2019, 11:15 pm

a. When you want something from me tell it to me in direct terms. One example. Her: Do you know when Target?opens instead of asking me to go find out when Target opens. Just directly tell me what you wish.

b. When you vent your emotions at me I have no clue as to what you're expecting from me. Are you expecting me to simply sit their and listen to you? Do you want a solution?

c. Why do you ask me if this makes you look fat when you don't want a truthful answer? Do you want a guy that lies and bullshits to you or gives it to you straight? And, if he would lie about something simple as that what else would he lie about? Don't you ever wonder that? And, how do you have an accurate assessment of yourself, weight and body image if you don't want to hear the truth? A number of women I have met say they want honesty from their men but do they really? It's confusing.

d. The stuff that Fnord said.

e. And, why do you believe your period gives you a get out of free card in how you treat people? Do I get the same card of will I be considered abusive if I so as much raise my voice? Why can't we have consistent standards between the genders?



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25 Jun 2019, 12:33 am

For some reason guys who like to take food from other people's plates always come for mine. I say guys because all of the people I have met who do this are men (N=4).

Regardless of your genetals, gender, etc.- Just don't put your hands in other people's food without asking first. It's not a huge request I think.