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01 Jun 2020, 4:50 pm

I'd call "parks = rape" a pretty major red flag.


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01 Jun 2020, 4:55 pm

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I'd call "parks = rape" a pretty major red flag.

WeLl most women seem to consider any “guy” they meet online a rapist or kidnapper until they’ve meet.
And such things have happen which is why police, media and parents say meet in public, tell friends or family where your going, when your going, how long before they should worry, details and pictures of the supposed guy.
While this is directed at women, me as a weak male tend to follow this. While I consider parks public I guess that could depend if people are there or not.
So they prefer expensive restaurants or coffee shops.
I had one date arranged who canceled and blocked me cause her parents said it was unsafe for her to meet a guy off internet at coffee shop instead of a restaurant

Her family is rich, they gave her a house and she works at the family store.

I know and big cities like Central Park in nyc is quite know for rape and robbery and even murder.

Not so much her most we have is people doing illegal public sex. My first real date told me and pointed out all the places her ex and her had sex in the park as we walked


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01 Jun 2020, 4:57 pm

Wolfram87 wrote:
I'd call "parks = rape" a pretty major red flag.


I think that equation is more of his overreacting to things than a real girls opinion. If that were so, the beaches in places where available would be virtually ghost towns instead of nearly always packed during normal times.



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01 Jun 2020, 5:03 pm

Our first date was in a park / woodland area but we had already met once before, and I had my dog with me.

The area was mostly visible from the road or from private residences, and it was daylight.

I guess I'm not your average date.


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01 Jun 2020, 5:10 pm

The trend around me is to meet for an inexpensive coffee date, and then make a decision to meet for a second time.



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01 Jun 2020, 5:12 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
I'd call "parks = rape" a pretty major red flag.


I think that equation is more of his overreacting to things than a real girls opinion. If that were so, the beaches in places where available would be virtually ghost towns instead of nearly always packed during normal times.

If you had a daughter would you went her to meet a strange man ar
Secluded park at on edge of town Or a packed Starbucks?
If a guy decides to rape or hurt here where is she most likely to get help?

Many guys use fake pictures on dating sites. Guys luring women to secluded area to rape or kidnap them is a thing, heck sometimes guys just grab women on their way to their car after shopping. We’ve had women get off shift from Walmart get kidnaped as they walk back to their car. My work has guys escort the female employees to their cars at night.

So it’s not irrational but sadly it does hurt poor men’s dating chances if we can’t afford restaurants or even coffee places.

It’s been all over the media. All the dating sites say meet the date at a “public area with lots of people”
Cause that way they won’t get sued when some woman gets raped or kidnaped.

Really hate how people here question my experiences as delusions or lies.

Packed beach isn’t the same as secluded beach. FYI in Oregon beaches are never packed. You might see one other person in 30 mins. Most my time at the beach I’m only one there.

Oregon isn’t California or New York.
All I can say is most women here won’t meet for a first date at a park


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01 Jun 2020, 5:12 pm

I love belko61 wrote:
The trend around me is to meet for an inexpensive coffee date, and then make a decision to meet for a second time.


Sounds like a good trend.



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01 Jun 2020, 5:15 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
I'd call "parks = rape" a pretty major red flag.


I think that equation is more of his overreacting to things than a real girls opinion. If that were so, the beaches in places where available would be virtually ghost towns instead of nearly always packed during normal times.


It isn't that we think we'll be raped. Common sense just states to meet someone for the first time in a public area. There's nothing wrong with meeting in a park during the day when there are many others around.



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01 Jun 2020, 5:15 pm

I love belko61 wrote:
The trend around me is to meet for an inexpensive coffee date, and then make a decision to meet for a second time.

Sadly for my incom coffee isn’t inexpensive. Fro two drinks it’d be $10-15 that’s 10% of my monthly funds. And I don’t like coffee and women refused to meet me at a drive/Ali up coffee place that serves stuff other then coffee, either cause they find it cheap or one woman didn’t feel safe. They want to meet at Starbucks which is more expensive then my listed price above and only has coffee.

I honestly feel unless I can get a real job paying $25 and hour or more it’s hopeless for me and being disabled thst will never happen.


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01 Jun 2020, 5:20 pm

((( HUGS SLY )))


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01 Jun 2020, 6:01 pm

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I honestly feel unless I can get a real job paying $25 and hour or more it’s hopeless for me and being disabled that will never happen.


I've never had a job that pays over $17, it sucks but it hasn't prevented me from getting dates. :?


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01 Jun 2020, 6:24 pm

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In my personal experience, the price of a real date (not with a prostitute) can vary from about $10 per person at a fast-food restaurant to well over $500 per person for a full weekend getaway.  My dates with my wife are somewhere in the $100 per person range.
Don’t expect second date if you take them to fast food.  Is what I’ve always been told.  Guy I know spent $500 on a first date.
That may have been what you have been told, but that is not always how it works (e.g., she wanted only a burger, fries, and a drink on the first date; so that's what she got.  Next date, we went to the steakhouse).  Any guy who would spend $500 on a date is either very rich, very generous, or very much expecting a little 'action' in return.


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01 Jun 2020, 6:41 pm

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I honestly feel unless I can get a real job paying $25 and hour or more it’s hopeless for me and being disabled that will never happen.


I've never had a job that pays over $17, it sucks but it hasn't prevented me from getting dates. :?


Canada=/=USA.


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01 Jun 2020, 6:43 pm

Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
In my personal experience, the price of a real date (not with a prostitute) can vary from about $10 per person at a fast-food restaurant to well over $500 per person for a full weekend getaway.  My dates with my wife are somewhere in the $100 per person range.
Don’t expect second date if you take them to fast food.  Is what I’ve always been told.  Guy I know spent $500 on a first date.
That may have been what you have been told, but that is not always how it works (e.g., she wanted only a burger, fries, and a drink on the first date; so that's what she got.  Next date, we went to the steakhouse).  Any guy who would spend $500 on a date is either very rich, very generous, or very much expecting a little 'action' in return.

He was making $500 a day driving taxi at the time. I dont know what he’s up to now. He tried to get me to drive taxi with him so he could work less. No thanks. I’d be too afraid to drive taxi over night.


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01 Jun 2020, 7:08 pm

I'm trying to remember my first dates with my three exbf's.

1) We met on a sailboat during a small gathering of people. Our first date -- sailing. Likewise for about four or five dates. He bought me roses but that's about the only expense, and as you know I don't even like / want roses from men.

2) We met through work in a round-about way. Date one, we went to a zoo. We each paid our own way. I don't remember if we ate anything but if we did, it was on the zoo property. Most of our dates we spent cycling (free).

3) We met through work. I can't pinpoint when the first official date would have been. We used to go out for beer sometimes with colleagues. Again, no big expenditures and no fancy meals. We were together quite a while and to this day I've only ever seen one movie with him at the cinema (a couple of years ago as friends). The most expensive meal we've done together was Japanese food but that was also casual and not terribly expensive. It was more like "I'm hungry, let's go eat", than "I'd like to take you out to a restaurant".


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01 Jun 2020, 9:01 pm

I love belko61 wrote:
The trend around me is to meet for an inexpensive coffee date, and then make a decision to meet for a second time.


That is what I would do.

BTW,
Interested in coffee and cake? :mrgreen: