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15 Sep 2020, 9:59 am

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I'm nobody's idea of what a "toned and buff" person should look like, but I'm doing alright.

My wife is shorter than I, and considerably slimmer.  When we go out together, arm-in-arm, people usually get out of our way without being asked.  But when she has to go to the other side of a store for something she forgot, she often complains about the people who just stood in her way and ignored her when she asked them to give a little way.


This happens to me as well, there must be some sort of psychological reasoning as to why, probably cause we're not that evolved from when we used to go around in packs and the strongest would be the leader kind of thing.

It's an interesting one in any case.


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15 Sep 2020, 10:10 am

I saw what you posted, Fnord, and my question was none of those things. It was a legitimate query as to your states' laws. I happen to live in a very strict state (possibly the most strict in the US) when it comes to guns and knives. Was curious if your state was less strict. No worries.



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15 Sep 2020, 10:13 am

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^ is that weapon legal to carry where you live?
Legal, schmegal ... it isn't an assault rifle, so what's your problem?


American weapon laws are funny. Especially in the states where concealed carry is prohibited but open carry is fine


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15 Sep 2020, 10:14 am

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^ is that weapon legal to carry where you live?
Legal, schmegal ... it isn't an assault rifle, so what's your problem?


American weapon laws are funny. Especially in the states where concealed carry is prohibited but open carry is fine
My state doesn't allow open carry...much to my sons' chagrin.



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15 Sep 2020, 10:16 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
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^ is that weapon legal to carry where you live?
Legal, schmegal ... it isn't an assault rifle, so what's your problem?
American weapon laws are funny. Especially in the states where concealed carry is prohibited but open carry is fine.
Yeah ... I can carry an unsheathed katana on my shoulder in public with no hassles, but if I get caught with a boxed X-Acto knife in my backpack, the cops will want to question me downtown.  Go figure.



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15 Sep 2020, 10:20 am

This female sentiment, "Not interested in dating a guy who works to much on his arms" may be indeed true.

Several years ago, I began to aggressively work out. I started to build up some muscles. My wife told me to stop it. Muscular men turn her off.


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15 Sep 2020, 10:22 am

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This sentiment "Not interested in dating a guy who works to much on his arms" may be true.  Several years ago, I began to aggressively work out.  I started to build up some muscles.  My wife told me to stop it. Muscular men turn her off.
When their husbands or boyfriends start working out, some women may begin to fear that the men will will either look for another girlfriend, or that the men will become violent and start abusing the women ... or so some women have told me ...



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15 Sep 2020, 10:23 am

I worked out for a whole year----seven times a week, four hours a day.

I ran three marathons.

Women liked me better "out of shape."



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15 Sep 2020, 1:07 pm

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I worked out for a whole year----seven times a week, four hours a day.

I ran three marathons.

Women liked me better "out of shape."




so women prefer out of shape men?



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15 Sep 2020, 1:22 pm

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I worked out for a whole year----seven times a week, four hours a day.

I ran three marathons.

Women liked me better "out of shape."




so women prefer out of shape men?


No, don't listen to them; unless you're becoming very muscular, looking like a brioche then yeah, that shape is conventionally unattractive to a lot of women.

The Swimmer build (not overly muscular) is one of the most conventionally attractive shapes to a lot of women, don't let anyone convinces you otherwise.



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15 Sep 2020, 1:59 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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kraftiekortie wrote:
I worked out for a whole year----seven times a week, four hours a day.

I ran three marathons.

Women liked me better "out of shape."



i thought soccer players had the best body to women?



so women prefer out of shape men?


No, don't listen to them; unless you're becoming very muscular, looking like a brioche then yeah, that shape is conventionally unattractive to a lot of women.

The Swimmer build (not overly muscular) is one of the most conventionally attractive shapes to a lot of women, don't let anyone convinces you otherwise.



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15 Sep 2020, 3:34 pm

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sheesh...just asking. I know my state is pretty strict on what passes for a carry-able knife. The one you posted would not be allowed.
I'm a knife,blade collector & a collector of other weapons as well. From my ordering I know some states have a lot more restrctions than others when it comes to bladed & other weapons. Incase anyone wants to know, Louisiana & Vermont are about as free as any other US state but New York is about the worst. I have a pretty butterfly knife but no balisang. I don't have the best fine motor-skills & a tremor disorder that acts up when doing things with fine motor-skills so an actual balisang would be dangerious for me. I want to get a trainer one to play with thou.


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15 Sep 2020, 6:33 pm

No. They prefer me out of shape.



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15 Sep 2020, 8:22 pm

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My husband is a bodybuilder, he literally needs me to help him put a jacket on sometimes cause his arms/shoulders are too big lol

People treat you with a lot more respect from what I've noticed. They're almost intimidated of you because you're not average looking at all. Nobody dare say anything bad to him kind of thing.

When you're with someone like that you feel a lot safer and protected cause nobody messes around. You're not gonna pick on some guys wife when the husband looks like they're built like a tank. They'd snap you in half for just looking at the wife wrong.

There's a hell of a lot of confidence you get from looking like that too. A bit too confident when he snaps the door handles off the kitchen door accidentally though. :roll:

I started getting quite toned and shredded myself (cause he eats ridiculously healthy and I tend to just eat what he eats anyway cause I'll mostly cook it cause his cooking is awful) but since I did I've noticed people at my work treat me a hell of a lot differently, like there were a group of girls there that gossiped and made drama about everyone but they don't do that around me now cause it's like they're suddenly intimidated of me? It's just weird how people have changed on the account of me looking better. These days they're all trying to be my best friend after they we're little dickheads before - and it's literally just to show off.

I'd say my life like this is way better because before I was going out with this skinny runt of a guy and it was just really boring. At least now I get the best piggybacks ever. :mrgreen:

Of course it's all down to personal preference, no one is better than anyone else. I just think the mental health and physical benefits you get for being built like a brick s**t house are much better than not being from having the experience myself.


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15 Sep 2020, 9:03 pm

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A man who knows how to invest his wealth is a better catch than a man who only knows how to work on his looks.  Physical appearance is a depreciating asset.  Wise investments are appreciating assets.  50 years from now, a man can either be ugly and poor or ugly and wealthy -- all else being equal, which do you think would be better able to provide a home, food, clothing, and medical care?
It is interesting how you zipped right to the "End Game" of life.
Not and "End Game" issue; I was reminded of an alleged dialog between a vain, gold-digging woman and a wealthy mature man...

THIS APPEARED ON CRAIG’S LIST


What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush.  I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl.  I'm articulate and classy.  I'm not from New York.  I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year.  I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board?  Any wives?  Could you send me some tips?  I dated a business man who makes average around 200 to 250.  But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock.  250,000 won't get me to Central Park West.  I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius.  So what is she doing right?  How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

– Where do you single rich men hang out?  Give me specifics -- bars, restaurants, gyms

– What are you looking for in a mate?  Be honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings

– Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?

– Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain?  I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys.  I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village.  What's the story there?

– Jobs I should look out for?  Everyone knows -- lawyer, investment banker, doctor.  How much do those guys really make?  And where do they hang out?  Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

– How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend?  I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults -- I'm putting myself out there in an honest way.  Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it.  I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them -- in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

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THE ANSWER:

Dear Pers-431649184:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma.  I offer the following analysis of your predicament.

Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year.  That said here's how I see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal.  Here's why.  Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money.  Fine, simple.  But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity ... in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset.  Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates!  Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year.  Then the fade begins in earnest.  By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold... hence the rub... marriage.  It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease.  In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following.  If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out.  It's as simple as that.  So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets.  So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful" as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy.  I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way.  Classic "pump and dump".

I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.


The Craigslist ad (which was posted to its New York boards) may have been on the up-and-up: in an 8 October 2007 New York Times article, a spokesperson for the online community said "... it does look as if the post was made sincerely."  After the solicitation was publicized in the media, the anonymous poster removed it from Craigslist.

A response entitled "The Answer" which was circulated in e-mail and on blogs and message boards along with a text copy of the Craigslist post apparently began as an e-mail rejoinder penned by another anonymous party.  This component has been attributed to four different men identified as working in the financial field in New York.  One of them, an investment banker with J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., was fingered more often than the others as the most likely author.  His firm, however, denied that the banker so named (who did indeed work for that entity) did anything more than forward the message to friends, an act that inserted his signature block into the fray and caused some to take him for the originator of the piece.


I found that extremely entertaining.
Thank you. ;)



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15 Sep 2020, 9:11 pm

RightGalaxy wrote:
Fnord wrote:
A man who knows how to invest his wealth is a better catch than a man who only knows how to work on his looks.

Physical appearance is a depreciating asset.  Wise investments are appreciating assets.  50 years from now, a man can either be ugly and poor or ugly and wealthy -- all else being equal, which do you think would be better able to provide a home, food, clothing, and medical care?


Fnord KNOWS!! ! ! :D Well said!! :heart:


And people wonder why he is my hero. 8O
A pity about his political views, though. :mrgreen: