Can you control NOT falling in love with someone?
But I had crushes on smart girls like that when I was young.
Neither am I!
My 2 cents:
1.) In my opinion, aspies have a different relationship with the concept of "falling in love" than NTs. I think you can avoid it if you really want to.
2.) Nowadays it's almost unheard of for a Jewish family to care if a child's partner or spouse is Jewish. It might make a difference for a recent immigrant from a Middle Eastern country, but not typical Ashkenazi Jews in NYC. Source: I married into a fairly large Jewish family.
An update:
Yesterday I told B we have to have a talk. He was very reluctant but eventually agreed to meet me at a park.
At the park, I told him I had started to feel different, to feel warm and familiar and I would rather not fall head over heels over someone if the feeling is asymmetrical.
He began to say vague things (for me, an aspie) for example "I think we both guarded our feelings but things trickled through", "I barricaded myself but sometimes I would be doing my own things in my 'bunker' and all of a sudden you're there". I really didn't understand what he meant at first, I asked him if it meant that he felt the same way too, he said "what do you think?". It was actually quite hilarious. It was a rhetorical question on top of a metaphor, I felt even more confused.
Eventually I was struck by the realization that he also feels emotional about me, and I felt as if I had won the lottery.
He said he will be taking some trips for a month and go back to see family, and it might be a good thing. I am a bit worried that he will break things off with me after seeing his family and being reminded of his values. But it's not something I can control. There are more short-term practical things like communication, starting to show our true selves and merging a bit of our lives together. And I am not sure if we can even get through that to the eventual Jewish identity problem.
It is kind of strange I don't feel overwhelmed by romantic or happy feelings anymore, I thought I would be. He is still keeping emotional distance and nothing much has changed.
I think the point is that if we have all invested emotional energy into a relationship at least once in our lives where the other person has not been entirely honest/open about their intentions.
You need to be mentally and emotionally prepared when and if this doesn't work out. Orthodox religious families have a strong pull on their children and you are competing with 1000s of years of tradition. I think the signs are already there that you should move on but at the end of the day that's your decision to make not any random person on WP.
I'm afraid its all part of growing as a person.
Hi cyberdad,
I think you are right. And the very sign of me asking for advice on WP proves that I am just not ready to let go. I don't think B is particularly manipulative or deceitful, but I can't rule out his potential of hurting me like that.
I have to say I am seeing people on the side, but it's extremely hard to have chemistry when I already feel bonded with B.
I went out with a Greek guy several times. He is incredibly open-minded, smart, artsy and was born in a good family. He has spent a lot of time in Asia, where I am from. Speaks my language. He is basically an ideal partner but I just started thinking about B violently on our dates.
It's a hard situation. Neither of us has the will power to cut off our affair but it's just too hard to develop a romantic relationship with other suitable partners when I am preoccupied with B. I guess I just have to go through this and it is a part of growing.
Yes,
You are young and will learn from the experience.
I just hope you don't invest 4 years into something that doesn't pan out.
You do realise that 23 is a bit young to start building a brooding nest, right?
Personally, I'd recommend you "sow your wild oats" to gain life experience, also. ![]()
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Same ^^^
I wish you much happiness, whatever happens
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You are young and will learn from the experience.
I just hope you don't invest 4 years into something that doesn't pan out.
You do realise that 23 is a bit young to start building a brooding nest, right?
Personally, I'd recommend you "sow your wild oats" to gain life experience, also.
No it's not young, it would take at least 3 years to build that nest.
You are young and will learn from the experience.
I just hope you don't invest 4 years into something that doesn't pan out.
You do realise that 23 is a bit young to start building a brooding nest, right?
Personally, I'd recommend you "sow your wild oats" to gain life experience, also.
No it's not young, it would take at least 3 years to build that nest.
Baby making usually happens when the woman is aound thirty, these days, doesn't it?
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You are young and will learn from the experience.
I just hope you don't invest 4 years into something that doesn't pan out.
You do realise that 23 is a bit young to start building a brooding nest, right?
Personally, I'd recommend you "sow your wild oats" to gain life experience, also.
No it's not young, it would take at least 3 years to build that nest.
Baby making usually happens when the woman is in her thirties, these days, doesn't it?
Well yeah, I was talking about marriage, not baby making, that latter can wait.
You are young and will learn from the experience.
I just hope you don't invest 4 years into something that doesn't pan out.
You do realise that 23 is a bit young to start building a brooding nest, right?
Personally, I'd recommend you "sow your wild oats" to gain life experience, also.
No it's not young, it would take at least 3 years to build that nest.
Baby making usually happens when the woman is in her thirties, these days, doesn't it?
Well yeah, I was talking about marriage, not baby making, that latter can wait.
Actually, baby-making in America is younger than Europe, so she needs to get a wriggle on, errr, so to speak.
Guys we are getting way ahead of ourselves here. I am not thinking about marriage particularly but I would love to get into a serious relationship and see where it goes.
And I have messed around quite a lot, my wild oats have been sewed and I actually feel like settling down at the moment.
I don't plan on having kids until at least I am 30, preferably after 35 when I am financially stable.
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Haha this plan sounds very nice conceptually, but I don't think I am genetically set up to do it. Also I am sure I will be very wealthy once i am in my mid 30s.
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Please weigh in on my situation and offer your advice, I would deeply appreciate it.
In May I started seeing this guy B. I felt a strong attraction. B is emotionally intelligent (unlike me), funny, treats me well and sex was AMAZING. We started hanging out all the time and about a month in, he broke things off with me out of the blue and was being ambiguous about his reasoning. I was devastated.
I went no contact and put myself back together. About another month went by, he came back and said he wanted to hook up with me. I rejected him, and then he told me the reason why he broke things off with me was that he was trying to find someone Jewish to get married to. I am not Jewish. But I started sleeping with him again after his confession, because I appreciated him being honest and thought the ethnicity issue won't be serious until we actually get into a relationship and think about marriage. On the back of my head, I was thinking that, once the initial infatuation wears off, it would be easy for me to walk away and I didn't really think we would make it long term anyways (we have v different values, personalities, friend groups and interests). I thought we were just going to burn out quickly.
It's been two months since we hooked up again. Things have turned romantic, we hung out with friends and took a short trip together. The infatuation chemical withdrawal indeed happened, but I realized that excitement was replaced by a warm, familiar feeling when I see him. I feel like I know where this is going - I might fall in love with this guy if things drag on. I didn't mind we are so different, the feeling is real and somewhat irresistible. I tried smoking weed, hanging out with friends and focusing on my own life issues, but when I get a second, the feeling comes right back.
The problem is, I just took two years off from dating because I wanted to reflect on myself and get into a stable long term relationship. The Jew/None Jew issue is going to prevent us from dating although we like each other. I have been hurt deeply by a couple of men before and I don't want to go down that road again, it would further traumatize me and make dating even harder. It is my primary goal to be in a healthy long term relationship, and I will sacrifice whatever I need to.
At this point, I am thinking about confessing these feelings and telling him that it will be strictly sex from now on (no talking about our personal lives and hanging out with friends). I don't feel strong enough to just break things off completely.
***I can't really speak for his commitment to finding a Jewish girl, since I was not raised in this context. He said he won't be able to fight the pressure from his family, and somewhere in me I feel like that is partially an excuse - it is a traditional value that he deeply believes in but is too shy to admit (he appears v progressive, liberal etc). He mentioned a couple times that it might take several years for his parents to accept, and when I said I wanted to potentially move to Germany, he said he is curious about Berlin. But I suspect he is just people pleasing and sending mixed signals without an intention to commit.
My questions are:
How should I have this conversation with him? Is there another creative solution to this situation? What would you do in this situation?
Thank you for your time and answer.
I had a similar issue when I was younger. But I also think my ex might have been closet gay. He's married to a woman and has kids now though (go figure). I am very clingy/obsessive in relationships and don't want to allow a partner the slightest room to possibly cheat on me or find someone else. I'm totally paranoid about it, to the point it drives people away (think "Overly Obsessed Girlfriend"). This was at least part of the issue with the man I am referring to (although the problems were certainly not all me). I've also been hurt deeply by several men in the past. I never completely got over any of it. I haven't dated or had a romantic/sexual relationship of any kind in 12 years. Although sometimes I think it would be nice to be married like other women my age, I'm not willing to put myself at risk of the kind of pain I've gone through in the past. For me, at least, men aren't worth it (no offense men
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