Yes, the looks is very important

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28 Jan 2021, 5:42 am

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I encountered a lot of women who say stuff like “My ex bf was not sexy...”, “my ex was fat and unfit”.... or even more negative details of her exes’s physical traits down there if she is intimate with me.

This is sad, I wouldn’t want to be with someone who finds me ugly or unattractive.


Please ignore such comments from women who make these claims because a stroll down any city (not currently under COVID lockdown) will be patently obvious that 90% of couples are generally similar in attractiveness. Around 5% the man is uglier (i.e. rich dude) and around 5% the man is more attractive (i.e. dude is bisexual or covering up being gay).

As Michael Moore would say, "that's the awful truth"


Agreed.
The graph represents BS. :mrgreen:



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28 Jan 2021, 6:53 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I encountered a lot of women who say stuff like “My ex bf was not sexy...”, “my ex was fat and unfit”.... or even more negative details of her exes’s physical traits down there if she is intimate with me.

When I first met my ex I thought he was very good looking, then I got to know his personality, now I find him very ugly looking.
When I first met my husband I wasn't very attracted to him, then I got to know his personality, now he's gorgeous. :shrug:


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Around 5% the man is uglier (i.e. rich dude) and around 5% the man is more attractive (i.e. dude is bisexual or covering up being gay).

And of course you know how rich or non-straight these men are?


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28 Jan 2021, 7:35 am

I think beauty* can be the deciding factor on whether someone is a friend or a lover.

But can't be the deciding factor as to whether they're a lover or someone you want to be a million miles away from.

If someone's sole reason to be dating potential is their beauty: stay away from them!

Unless it's a hook up you do not need bad people in your life! Esp as your significant other.

But I'm not going to date an ugly woman. She can be a friend instead. I don't have to kiss etc my friends. I don't fancy my friends (most of whom are guys) but I do see them as worthwhile people to be around :)

* Rugged good looks for those on the more masculine end of the spectrum


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28 Jan 2021, 7:50 am

OutsideView wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I encountered a lot of women who say stuff like “My ex bf was not sexy...”, “my ex was fat and unfit”.... or even more negative details of her exes’s physical traits down there if she is intimate with me.

When I first met my ex I thought he was very good looking, then I got to know his personality, now I find him very ugly looking.
When I first met my husband I wasn't very attracted to him, then I got to know his personality, now he's gorgeous. :shrug:


I have both qualities, also.
I have a great personality *and* I am ugly.
Feel like trading up? :mrgreen:



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28 Jan 2021, 7:53 am

KT67 wrote:
I think beauty* can be the deciding factor on whether someone is a friend or a lover.

But can't be the deciding factor as to whether they're a lover or someone you want to be a million miles away from.

If someone's sole reason to be dating potential is their beauty: stay away from them!

Unless it's a hook up you do not need bad people in your life! Esp as your significant other.

But I'm not going to date an ugly woman. She can be a friend instead. I don't have to kiss etc my friends. I don't fancy my friends (most of whom are guys) but I do see them as worthwhile people to be around :)

* Rugged good looks for those on the more masculine end of the spectrum


Personality is more important than looks, by a country mile. 8)



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28 Jan 2021, 8:06 am

Most people are average-looking. Most people in relationships are average-looking.

The range amongst average-looking people is great.

Even many actors/actresses are average-looking.

Jennifer Aniston is a sex symbol who is pretty average-looking, yet uses it to her advantage. Meryl Streep is not all that great in the looks department—yet she was a sex symbol when she was younger. Their appeal just might be in their “averageness.”

It’s mostly “how you carry yourself.” I can be pretty darn ugly on my bad days.

I don’t really feel a raging desire for model types.



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28 Jan 2021, 8:16 am

Looks are subjective.

Most people don't think their lovers started out average looking, at least that's what my guess is.

Of course most of my life is spent more in the world of books/art than in the 'real world' so maybe I'm tainted by that.

People go with people they're physically attracted to.

At least in the beginning - then they learn to accept their 'faults' if they love the person. Or they learn to love the way the person changes: going from pretty to classically beautiful or from beautiful to ruggedly handsome as the couple grow old together.

I can only think of one sonnet where the comparison is 'my beloved is ugly/average but I love her anyway'. Compared to lots about beautiful people. In the eye of the poet that is - we have no proof beyond that as to whether they were ugly by other people's standards.


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28 Jan 2021, 8:19 am

I once had a crush on a woman who, objectively, seemed ugly. She certainly smelled good, though :heart:



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28 Jan 2021, 8:47 am

That might not be a representative sample



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28 Jan 2021, 9:18 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I encountered a lot of women who say stuff like “My ex bf was not sexy...”, “my ex was fat and unfit”.... or even more negative details of her exes’s physical traits down there if she is intimate with me.

This is sad, I wouldn’t want to be with someone who finds me ugly or unattractive.


Please ignore such comments from women who make these claims because a stroll down any city (not currently under COVID lockdown) will be patently obvious that 90% of couples are generally similar in attractiveness. Around 5% the man is uglier (i.e. rich dude) and around 5% the man is more attractive (i.e. dude is bisexual or covering up being gay).

As Michael Moore would say, "that's the awful truth"


Agreed.
The graph represents BS. :mrgreen:



I think it represents first impressions.



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28 Jan 2021, 12:03 pm

^ first impressions = very good point.

And sometimes those can be wrong. Or.. change quickly, I should say.

Like, from a handful of photos and a few messages exchanged I might rate someone as an 8. Another several messages and I find out they’re super arrogant AND a trump supporter & Boom, my impression of them drops through the basement - ew, gross, would not f**k.


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28 Jan 2021, 2:35 pm

Photographs frequently don't do people justice....



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28 Jan 2021, 6:36 pm

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Photographs frequently don't do people justice....

It's true. People are so hot on the camera


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28 Jan 2021, 7:43 pm

If my humble opinion matters, here it is: Physical beauty may be what initially attracts us; however, it is personality that will ultimately make us or brake us in our interpersonal relationships...

At least in my case, the moment someone shows signs of certain undesirable personality traits, no matter how physically beautiful he or she may be, i don't want them in my circle of friends!! !...

As a matter of FACT--not blind love for my husband--he is very attractive to women in general...Yet, i fell for his brain (higher intellect), elegant demeanor, self-confidence, and stubbornness or perseverance (he would not take "No" for an answer)...

I read somewhere that physical beauty on an "ugly" person is like a piece of jewelry on a pig...It is not graceful therefore unattractive...

However, i am a female NT...And females in general prefer personality over looks...Women in general like men who give them a sense of security, someone who makes them laugh, and most importantly someone who they can admire... :wink:



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28 Jan 2021, 10:35 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Most people are average-looking. Most people in relationships are average-looking.

The range amongst average-looking people is great.

Even many actors/actresses are average-looking.

Jennifer Aniston is a sex symbol who is pretty average-looking, yet uses it to her advantage. Meryl Streep is not all that great in the looks department—yet she was a sex symbol when she was younger. Their appeal just might be in their “averageness.”

It’s mostly “how you carry yourself.” I can be pretty darn ugly on my bad days.

I don’t really feel a raging desire for model types.


I find Jennifer Aniston very attractive.
I find Brad Pitt very handsome.
They looked like a good match. 8)



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28 Jan 2021, 10:38 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Photographs frequently don't do people justice....


I don't look good in photos.
My driver's license will attest to that. 8O