Missed a chance to have sex?

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21 Dec 2021, 6:43 pm

That's possible.

But it's more likely she'll want you to start paying for her drinks or something.



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21 Dec 2021, 6:44 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
That's possible.

But it's more likely she'll want you to start paying for her drinks or something.



Yeah also I should not have been so harsh on the poster prisioner. Like a poster said I need to be more thick skinned in this world.



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21 Dec 2021, 6:49 pm

You dodged a bullet Jamesy. The woman was clearly not stable. She wasn't sober. If you're as handsome as you say, think you are, there will be other chances.


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21 Dec 2021, 6:55 pm

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You dodged a bullet Jamesy. The woman was clearly not stable. She wasn't sober. If you're as handsome as you say, think you are, there will be other chances.




I think I dodged a jail sentence to 8O



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21 Dec 2021, 9:47 pm

I consider myself average to maybe fairly handsome, but in dark lighting conditions at, nighttime, to a drunken woman, i could imagine i would appear like a damn supermodel.


(LOL is swear i'm not narcissistic,) but i was mirin' in the mirror just now, ---and i've never had anybody say i was ugly.

Yeah personality though. Autistic traits. Thats hard to fix.


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22 Dec 2021, 1:11 am

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It's a well known fact that people look better when drunk. I'm not saying you're bad looking. I don't know what you look like. But Booze alters people perceptions. It also boosts libido. She could have even been a alcoholic.


Regardless of the (biological) woman's motivations there are several things that ring true, here:

- Some women enjoy sex whilst drunk due to body image issues.
- Lowering inhibitions is sometimes necessary to achieve sexual pleasure from sex.
- Sex is a primal thing - lowering inhibitions is often a good thing, even if using alcohol to achieve lowered inhibitions.
- Having someone look better whilst drunk is generally a good thing. You can have sex with a 'toad' & they'll look awesome. It's a great life hack if you cannot attract stereotypically 'beautiful' women. It works both ways, too. Biological women who cannot attract 'hot' guys can enjoy sex with not so 'hot' looking guys.
- Having an increased libido whilst drunk is a good thing.

The best thing to do in a situation where two people are drunk, is to ask the person explicitly if they consent in some way. For example, asking "can I touch you"?

It might spoil the chemistry a little, but you'll be sure not to have any worries about someone trying to twist what happened later on at a later date, if that is applicable/happens. If they do lie about things regardless of your good behaviour in regards to consent - then if they have any type of conscience, they'll suffer for their lies.


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22 Dec 2021, 1:20 am

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By denying a woman a chance to have sex whilst drunk'


That villain Jamesy, DENYING this woman. What a scoundrel. I bet he was looking like James dean through her beer goggles, and she couldn't keep her hands off him. When drunk, its well known fact, people personality change, become disorientated, out of it. Jamesy did the right thing. Even if she wasn't so drunk, that it blacked out her memory, if she woke up the next day and remembered it, she might feel very upset and disgusted. Jamesy ultimately did the right thing, by leaving it alone.


If she woke up feeling upset and disgusted - it would have been her own fault. If she didn't want sex in the first place, she shouldn't have been actively seeking it out, by going to places where she would attract men. If she went & chased Jamesy, trying to have sex with him, and then regretted it, the burden of regret would be hers & hers alone.


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22 Dec 2021, 3:18 am

Even though I think I am good looking some people once made fun of me and called me "ugly" because I was refused entry to a nightclub.



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22 Dec 2021, 3:24 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
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By denying a woman a chance to have sex whilst drunk'


That villain Jamesy, DENYING this woman. What a scoundrel. I bet he was looking like James dean through her beer goggles, and she couldn't keep her hands off him. When drunk, its well known fact, people personality change, become disorientated, out of it. Jamesy did the right thing. Even if she wasn't so drunk, that it blacked out her memory, if she woke up the next day and remembered it, she might feel very upset and disgusted. Jamesy ultimately did the right thing, by leaving it alone.


If she woke up feeling upset and disgusted - it would have been her own fault. If she didn't want sex in the first place, she shouldn't have been actively seeking it out, by going to places where she would attract men. If she went & chased Jamesy, trying to have sex with him, and then regretted it, the burden of regret would be hers & hers alone.


Well, I figure you mean that she came onto him and that implied she consents...still though if Jamesy was more sober and felt she seemed too drunk he made the right choice. Maybe she wasn't too drunk to consent but if he was more sober than she was then it was a smart choice not to risk it.

I do hope however you didn't mean that a woman simply being in a place where they'd attract men is consenting to sex just by being there.


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22 Dec 2021, 3:25 am

If you contact her again, she could become your girlfriend.
Try again without drinks. Tell her why you didnt want to do it or that youve been shy but that you're attracted to her.


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22 Dec 2021, 3:28 am

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Even though I think I am good looking some people once made fun of me and called me "ugly" because I was refused entry to a nightclub.


I was refused entry to a nightclub, back when I tried to pretend to be 'NT', back when I was 18. Walking in a diagonal line on the pavement because of motor co-ordination issues. I had my ID with me (a provisional driving license). The bouncer on the door just laughed at me and basically said that I wasn't coming in on his property. I was maybe 9 stone in weight ? I wasn't going to argue. I was dressed appropriately for the occasion, however.

I imagine he probably thought I was going to get beat up in there and become a target. Maybe he was doing it for my own good, I have no idea? I remember going to a different nightclub on different occasion and a huge, huge guy relative to my size, probably about 16 stone of muscle & fat, tried to start a fight with me, picked me up by the clothes on my chest so that my feet were lifted off the ground and said if I looked him in the eye again he would "f*****g destroy you (me)".

He didn't leave it there though. He was sadistic and followed me around the club until I had a panic attack and ended up exiting the building and jumping in a cab/taxi home.


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22 Dec 2021, 3:29 am

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Earlier tonight I walked home this drunk woman. When I got back to her apartment she asked me if i wanted to sleep with her. she started kissing me to.

I declined and said I needed to back to the pub and see friends.

Do you think I blew my only chance to ever have sex?


she is 67 and I am 31


People have had sex whilst being drunk for thousands of years.

Wokeists who say sex whilst drunk is rape are deluded. It's only rape if people are so drunk that they cannot give consent, which is very drunk for most people.

Also, if a woman walks you home, invites you into her home, asks for sex & then you have sex - even if you are both drunk, it is definitely not rape.

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise - they are wrong.

Even more so if she is 67 years old. Give the woman credit/agency over her actions - she has had 67 years on this Earth. I am sure she can decide whether to have sex, or not.

If you are sober and a (biological) woman is drunk - avoid having sex with that person. They might accuse you of rape. But if you are both drunk, it's 'game on' if you both want it.

Why doesnt it apply to the guy being drunk, I wonder? I mean he has agency over his doings, why should he only sleep with her when he is drunk? Is that an excuse?


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22 Dec 2021, 3:30 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
theprisoner wrote:
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By denying a woman a chance to have sex whilst drunk'


That villain Jamesy, DENYING this woman. What a scoundrel. I bet he was looking like James dean through her beer goggles, and she couldn't keep her hands off him. When drunk, its well known fact, people personality change, become disorientated, out of it. Jamesy did the right thing. Even if she wasn't so drunk, that it blacked out her memory, if she woke up the next day and remembered it, she might feel very upset and disgusted. Jamesy ultimately did the right thing, by leaving it alone.


If she woke up feeling upset and disgusted - it would have been her own fault. If she didn't want sex in the first place, she shouldn't have been actively seeking it out, by going to places where she would attract men. If she went & chased Jamesy, trying to have sex with him, and then regretted it, the burden of regret would be hers & hers alone.


Well, I figure you mean that she came onto him and that implied she consents...still though if Jamesy was more sober and felt she seemed too drunk he made the right choice. Maybe she wasn't too drunk to consent but if he was more sober than she was then it was a smart choice not to risk it.

I do hope however you didn't mean that a woman simply being in a place where they'd attract men is consenting to sex just by being there.


No, that's not what I meant (your last sentence). (Biological) women do not consent to sex by being in a place where sex is 'on the agenda'. If you interpreted my words correctly, I meant that if she was explicitly communicating she wanted to have sex with a (biological) man - she has the right to pursue that.

Yes, I agree - only sleep with people who are drunk if you are also drunk. Not if you are sober and they are drunk. I think I have said that twice already.


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22 Dec 2021, 3:36 am

Rexi wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
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Earlier tonight I walked home this drunk woman. When I got back to her apartment she asked me if i wanted to sleep with her. she started kissing me to.

I declined and said I needed to back to the pub and see friends.

Do you think I blew my only chance to ever have sex?


she is 67 and I am 31


People have had sex whilst being drunk for thousands of years.

Wokeists who say sex whilst drunk is rape are deluded. It's only rape if people are so drunk that they cannot give consent, which is very drunk for most people.

Also, if a woman walks you home, invites you into her home, asks for sex & then you have sex - even if you are both drunk, it is definitely not rape.

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise - they are wrong.

Even more so if she is 67 years old. Give the woman credit/agency over her actions - she has had 67 years on this Earth. I am sure she can decide whether to have sex, or not.

If you are sober and a (biological) woman is drunk - avoid having sex with that person. They might accuse you of rape. But if you are both drunk, it's 'game on' if you both want it.

Why doesnt it apply to the guy being drunk, I wonder? I mean he has agency over his doings, why should he only sleep with her when he is drunk? Is that an excuse?


A biological man doesn't have to sleep with anyone. I have refused sex on a few occasions before being 'of age' mentally, because I was so young in my mind it would have been extreme paedophillia for me to subject myself to such acts.

When I was 16 & at the age of consent in a legal sense in my country, I had a few offers from high school women, but I was terrifed of being naked at that point with another biological woman & so did not lose my virginity until much later.

I was basically like an 8 year old at age 16.

I had a woman in high school running her hand up and down my thigh when I was like... 6 mentally, at age 14.


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22 Dec 2021, 4:03 am

I walked past her on the street recently and she didn't even notice me or stop to talk



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22 Dec 2021, 9:57 am

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I walked past her on the street recently and she didn't even notice me or stop to talk


I personally wouldn't bother with her then in that case.

This is a fairly misanthropic apporach - but dating really is a numbers game. Don't focus on one person for too long if you can help it. It is a waste of time if they are not interested.


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