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08 Jun 2022, 2:32 pm

Supposedly, Wilt Chamberlain bedded 20,000 women; that probably didn't deter the 20,001th woman.



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08 Jun 2022, 3:18 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Supposedly, Wilt Chamberlain bedded 20,000 women; that probably didn't deter the 20,001th woman.


It must have if he only reached 20 000. Ms. 20 001 never came along, or he would have bedded 20 001. :mrgreen:


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09 Jun 2022, 4:27 am

mebbbe some womens think that they can stop that chosen man from going any further, that they may be THE ONE for their man.



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09 Jun 2022, 5:32 am

It's my impression that the main reason is that with a high body count, the woman must have had experience with one or two guys whose performance in bed and physical attributes were absolutely mind-blowing, and most men will be judged inferior. It would also imply that the woman is willing to try out a lot of different partners, possibly because she has high standards in the area of achieving sexual fulfillment, standards that the average lover won't be able to meet.


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09 Jun 2022, 6:35 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Supposedly, Wilt Chamberlain bedded 20,000 women; that probably didn't deter the 20,001th woman.


What is more interested in why the women (and there are millions of them around the world) happily sleep with a man knowing he's slept with 100s of women but do it anyway
https://people.com/celebrity/celebrity- ... on-cowell/

I know the answer



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09 Jun 2022, 7:12 am

Why are you referring to this as a threat?

Don't you mean that men do not generally look at a woman who has been with many men as being an optimal long term life partner? I dare say the same could be said for women. Why is this a threat?



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09 Jun 2022, 7:14 am

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Well as far as the argument goes that women do not see a high body count on a man as a threat, because a man 'has to work for it' in comparison to women, what's to say that a man with a high body count has no problem working for it, even if it includes cheating?

Or will a man not likely work for it, if he has steak waiting for him at home all the time, so to speak?


Few men who actually have slept with many women have had to work for it.



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09 Jun 2022, 8:26 am

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Few men who actually have slept with many women have had to work for it.
Upon what do you base this opinion of yours?



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09 Jun 2022, 8:57 am

How many is many women? Let's say thirty.

Do you think the investment of time and resources a 32 year old man has had to make in a given woman to successfully bed her is the same with thirty women as it is with say three?

Its a tale as old as time. Men who easily convince (or are invited by) women to sleep with them are almost certainly:

Attractive and healthy
Maybe loaded
If not attractive and healthy, definitely loaded
Has an easy charm with women (and probably men too; women like men who other men like)
Doesn't make any pretense of this being a long term matter
Takes no for an answer and moves on

In my own experience, after my divorce I started dating when I was ready to. I only dated women who I could have gone to high school with, that is, women three years older or three years younger than me, and only women I thought were conventionally and objectively attractive. I genuinely had little problem getting dates (which is a large component of not having to "work for it"), probably twenty women in the five years between my divorce and meeting my second wife. I was straight up about my baggage, I rarely mentioned my ex-, I did my best to be charming, and above all I went on every dinner date (which they always were, paid by me) without any expectations, just to enjoy myself. Over a twelve month period I had four women invite me into their beds, two of them after one date and one after the second.

Incidentally, my current wife and I did not become intimate until after six dates. She was one I worked for.



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09 Jun 2022, 9:13 am

rse92 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
rse92 wrote:
Few men who actually have slept with many women have had to work for it.
Upon what do you base this opinion of yours?

How many is many women? Let's say thirty.

Do you think the investment of time and resources a 32 year old man has had to make in a given woman to successfully bed her is the same with thirty women as it is with say three?

Its a tale as old as time. Men who easily convince (or are invited by) women to sleep with them are almost certainly:

Attractive and healthy
Maybe loaded
If not attractive and healthy, definitely loaded
Has an easy charm with women (and probably men too; women like men who other men like)
Doesn't make any pretense of this being a long term matter
Takes no for an answer and moves on

In my own experience, after my divorce I started dating when I was ready to. I only dated women who I could have gone to high school with, that is, women three years older or three years younger than me, and only women I thought were conventionally and objectively attractive. I genuinely had little problem getting dates (which is a large component of not having to "work for it"), probably twenty women in the five years between my divorce and meeting my second wife. I was straight up about my baggage, I rarely mentioned my ex-, I did my best to be charming, and above all I went on every dinner date (which they always were, paid by me) without any expectations, just to enjoy myself. Over a twelve month period I had four women invite me into their beds, two of them after one date and one after the second.

Incidentally, my current wife and I did not become intimate until after six dates. She was one I worked for.
So you base your opinions on assumptions, strawman arguments, and personal experiences.



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09 Jun 2022, 9:59 am

It may be. However, would you kindly tell me what the straw man arguments were that I made?



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09 Jun 2022, 10:04 am

rse92 wrote:
It may be. However, would you kindly tell me what the straw man arguments were that I made?
Actually, strawmen . . .
rse92 wrote:
Men who easily convince (or are invited by) women to sleep with them are almost certainly:

Attractive and healthy
Maybe loaded
If not attractive and healthy, definitely loaded
Has an easy charm with women (and probably men too; women like men who other men like)
Doesn't make any pretense of this being a long term matter
Takes no for an answer and moves on



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09 Jun 2022, 10:21 am

Fnord wrote:
rse92 wrote:
It may be. However, would you kindly tell me what the straw man arguments were that I made?
Actually, strawmen . . .
rse92 wrote:
Men who easily convince (or are invited by) women to sleep with them are almost certainly:

Attractive and healthy
Maybe loaded
If not attractive and healthy, definitely loaded
Has an easy charm with women (and probably men too; women like men who other men like)
Doesn't make any pretense of this being a long term matter
Takes no for an answer and moves on


Broadly the case, but as you imply, not always the case by any means.

Confidence in particular can be helpful with bedding a woman but said woman might have their own idea of confidence that varies from what others might think is confidence. A lack of hesitancy can be good enough.

Simply making yourself available at the right time knowing what might happen could be "confidence" for some....and often is.



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09 Jun 2022, 10:28 am

because, evolution:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2015/03 ... ing/?amp=1



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09 Jun 2022, 10:33 am

Fnord wrote:
rse92 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
rse92 wrote:
Few men who actually have slept with many women have had to work for it.
Upon what do you base this opinion of yours?

How many is many women? Let's say thirty.

Do you think the investment of time and resources a 32 year old man has had to make in a given woman to successfully bed her is the same with thirty women as it is with say three?

Its a tale as old as time. Men who easily convince (or are invited by) women to sleep with them are almost certainly:

Attractive and healthy
Maybe loaded
If not attractive and healthy, definitely loaded
Has an easy charm with women (and probably men too; women like men who other men like)
Doesn't make any pretense of this being a long term matter
Takes no for an answer and moves on

In my own experience, after my divorce I started dating when I was ready to. I only dated women who I could have gone to high school with, that is, women three years older or three years younger than me, and only women I thought were conventionally and objectively attractive. I genuinely had little problem getting dates (which is a large component of not having to "work for it"), probably twenty women in the five years between my divorce and meeting my second wife. I was straight up about my baggage, I rarely mentioned my ex-, I did my best to be charming, and above all I went on every dinner date (which they always were, paid by me) without any expectations, just to enjoy myself. Over a twelve month period I had four women invite me into their beds, two of them after one date and one after the second.

Incidentally, my current wife and I did not become intimate until after six dates. She was one I worked for.
So you base your opinions on assumptions, strawman arguments, and personal experiences.



Oh come on Fnord, even you can’t deny that a man has to be very attractive and successful in order to bed a lot of women; the other way around is not necessarily true.

It’s the truth.



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09 Jun 2022, 10:54 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Oh come on Fnord, even you can’t deny that a man has to be very attractive and successful in order to bed a lot of women; the other way around is not necessarily true.  It’s the truth.
Not always . . . there are enough exceptions to poke a few holes in the blanket, metaphorically speaking.  The sitcom trope of a middle-class doofus married to a hottie who could have any other man she wanted may be more realistic that you think.